I have my Great Grandfathers birth certificate from District of Ladhope, County of Roxburgh. It states that his parents were John Paterson and Agnes (shiels) Paterson and that they were married August 12th, Belfast. I have not been able to find a marriage record of them in Belfast, Ireland. I am wondering if there is a Belfast in Scotland I should be checking. Can anyone answer this for me. Thanks. Pam

I have a William AMOS m to Mary COLTHERT abt 1830 ish, they had a a child in Stenton ELN but did not come from that area orignally as far as I can see. Does anyone know the COLTHERT name or is it a spelling variation for something else. kind regards Marg O'Leary Port Stephens, NSW, Australia family history web sites http://nelsonbay.com/~mol/ http://www.familyhistory.nelsonbay.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Paterson" <kvair@istar.ca> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: AMOS - hobkirk > Thanks, Andrea. I shall check those names to see if anything connects to > my AMOS links. > Katherine > > On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Andrea wrote: > >> From: "Andrea Walker" <andreawalker@glenroycalvert.karoo.co.uk> >> To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-Id: <41B5C9D9.000005.01152@GLENROY> >> Subject: AMOS - hobkirk >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Hi >> >> Just noticed a message from Katherine Vair Paterson in Toronto 28 Oct >> asking >> about my Amos connections with Hobkirk. >> >> I have a William Amos born somewhere between 1791 and 1802 (thought it >> was >> 1802 then death certificate with age makes it more 1791) I think to a >> Walter >> Amos and Jane Elliott. Don't know if that is the same section or not. >> >> Andrea Walker > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ATTENTION those of you with Elliot in your line!!! Have you thought of > trying the CLAN-ELLIOT list at CLAN-ELLIOT-L@rootsweb.com Why not give it > a try? > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

If you come across an Isabella CROZIER, born about 1853 with a father George I would be most grateful ----- Original Message ----- From: "roygraham" <roygraham@perkins9617.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] CASTLETON FAMILIES > Hi Alison, > > I've got answers to most of those, many of them are my own family! > > However I've had the computer down for some time so I've a lot of catching > up to do. I'll try to get back to you tomorrow. > > Regards > > Roy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> > To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 PM > Subject: [SCT-ROX] CASTLETON FAMILIES > > >> I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries > about some of the families into which members married. >> Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I > would be delighted >> I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any > connection ? >> >> William Elliot of Penchrise married a BESSIE GRIEVE (she died 1683) >> >> Ninian Elliot (son of the above William) married AGNES PATTERSON ? >> >> NINIAN ELLIOT (son of above Ninian) MARRIED (3rd wife) a JANET ROBSON > (born 1731 at Dod, Castleton) Where ever Dod is ? >> >> Is anyone researching the ARMSTRONGS OF RICCARTON MILL because there are > several Elliots marrying into this family >> CHRISTIAN ELLIOT (1728-1790)MARRIED THOMAS ARMSTRONG AND HENRY ARMSTRONG > married HELEN ELLIOT >> >> MARGARET ELLIOT (1738-1827) MARRIED ARCHIBAL ARMSTRONG OF SORBIETREES >> >> WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot > of Riccarton) Their daughter married >> Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver >> Their daughter Mary married John Kyle >> Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary >> Pott >> >> Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin >> >> Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary >> >> >> ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >> 'Here's tae us, wha's like us? Damn few and thair a' deid.' >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > The ROXBURGH NAMES list is updated every three months and all members > recieve approx two weeks notice of each update. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

HELP Does anyone have access to the parish records for Castleton ? I wish to double check an entry for the birth of ESTHER ELLIOT daughter of JOHN ELLIOT & JANET ROBSON. In the IGI there are 2 entries for her birth at Blackburnfoot, 1 entry for Castleton and 1 entry for Roan. When transcribing the parish records I put down Roan as place of birth but may have made an error. The first 2 children were born at Blackburnfoot, and the youngest at Cavers so they could have been on the move ? THE ORIGINAL MUST BE CHECKED. I have family charts from Canadian family and they also have Roan as place of birth but this could just be an error compounded ! I sent a basic line to the Ancestoral file and due to their computer programme they have Ninian Elliot as born at Shaws (he died there) and a number of errors. So as everyone knows CHECK THE ORIGINAL I WOULD BE SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP Alison

I look forward to hearing from you Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: "roygraham" <roygraham@perkins9617.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] CASTLETON FAMILIES > Hi Alison, > > I've got answers to most of those, many of them are my own family! > > However I've had the computer down for some time so I've a lot of catching > up to do. I'll try to get back to you tomorrow. > > Regards > > Roy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> > To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 PM > Subject: [SCT-ROX] CASTLETON FAMILIES > > > > I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries > about some of the families into which members married. > > Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I > would be delighted > > I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any > connection ? > > > > William Elliot of Penchrise married a BESSIE GRIEVE (she died 1683) > > > > Ninian Elliot (son of the above William) married AGNES PATTERSON ? > > > > NINIAN ELLIOT (son of above Ninian) MARRIED (3rd wife) a JANET ROBSON > (born 1731 at Dod, Castleton) Where ever Dod is ? > > > > Is anyone researching the ARMSTRONGS OF RICCARTON MILL because there are > several Elliots marrying into this family > > CHRISTIAN ELLIOT (1728-1790)MARRIED THOMAS ARMSTRONG AND HENRY ARMSTRONG > married HELEN ELLIOT > > > > MARGARET ELLIOT (1738-1827) MARRIED ARCHIBAL ARMSTRONG OF SORBIETREES > > > > WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot > of Riccarton) Their daughter married > > Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver > > Their daughter Mary married John Kyle > > Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary Pott > > > > Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin > > > > Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary > > > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > > 'Here's tae us, wha's like us? Damn few and thair a' deid.' > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > The ROXBURGH NAMES list is updated every three months and all members recieve approx two weeks notice of each update. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Petra My connection is very faint - 2nd cousin 3 times removed - but I am a "sticky beak" at heart ! I would be most interested to know the parents of Walter and apart from Margaret & Walter what other children Helen and Walter had. Years ago I think I got a query about the name Ketchin and variations on it from someone in Australia. But their Ketchins hailed from the Hawick area Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petra Mitchinson" <Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: CASTLETON FAMILIES > Hi Alison, > > The KETCHINs are mine. Walter's brother Thomas KETCHIN was my husband's > great great grandfather. I've got plenty of information on Walter KETCHIN > and Helen GLENDINNING and their descendants, if you would like it. Did you > realise Roy is actually descended from this couple? > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> > To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 PM > Subject: CASTLETON FAMILIES > > > > I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries > about some of the families into which members married. > > Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I > would be delighted > > I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any > connection ? > > > > > > big snip < < < > > > > WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot > of Riccarton) Their daughter married > > Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver > > Their daughter Mary married John Kyle > > Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary Pott > > > > Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin > > > > Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ATTENTION those of you with Elliot in your line!!! Have you thought of trying the CLAN-ELLIOT list at CLAN-ELLIOT-L@rootsweb.com Why not give it a try? > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Thanks, Andrea. I shall check those names to see if anything connects to my AMOS links. Katherine On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Andrea wrote: > From: "Andrea Walker" <andreawalker@glenroycalvert.karoo.co.uk> > To: SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com > Message-Id: <41B5C9D9.000005.01152@GLENROY> > Subject: AMOS - hobkirk > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi > > Just noticed a message from Katherine Vair Paterson in Toronto 28 Oct > asking > about my Amos connections with Hobkirk. > > I have a William Amos born somewhere between 1791 and 1802 (thought it > was > 1802 then death certificate with age makes it more 1791) I think to a > Walter > Amos and Jane Elliott. Don't know if that is the same section or not. > > Andrea Walker

Hi Alison, The KETCHINs are mine. Walter's brother Thomas KETCHIN was my husband's great great grandfather. I've got plenty of information on Walter KETCHIN and Helen GLENDINNING and their descendants, if you would like it. Did you realise Roy is actually descended from this couple? Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: CASTLETON FAMILIES > I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries about some of the families into which members married. > Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I would be delighted > I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any connection ? > > > > big snip < < < > > WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot of Riccarton) Their daughter married > Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver > Their daughter Mary married John Kyle > Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary Pott > > Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin > > Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary

Hi Alison, I've got answers to most of those, many of them are my own family! However I've had the computer down for some time so I've a lot of catching up to do. I'll try to get back to you tomorrow. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland and Alison deCaen" <decaenr@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] CASTLETON FAMILIES > I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries about some of the families into which members married. > Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I would be delighted > I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any connection ? > > William Elliot of Penchrise married a BESSIE GRIEVE (she died 1683) > > Ninian Elliot (son of the above William) married AGNES PATTERSON ? > > NINIAN ELLIOT (son of above Ninian) MARRIED (3rd wife) a JANET ROBSON (born 1731 at Dod, Castleton) Where ever Dod is ? > > Is anyone researching the ARMSTRONGS OF RICCARTON MILL because there are several Elliots marrying into this family > CHRISTIAN ELLIOT (1728-1790)MARRIED THOMAS ARMSTRONG AND HENRY ARMSTRONG married HELEN ELLIOT > > MARGARET ELLIOT (1738-1827) MARRIED ARCHIBAL ARMSTRONG OF SORBIETREES > > WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot of Riccarton) Their daughter married > Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver > Their daughter Mary married John Kyle > Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary Pott > > Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin > > Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > 'Here's tae us, wha's like us? Damn few and thair a' deid.' > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Sorry no mention of a Dean connection and as you know Jean is fairly common. Have you tried http://genforum.genealogy.com/my/ for Deans. I see that someone is researching them from Roberton also Alison ----- Original Message ----- From: "phil" <philfam@dsl.pipex.com> To: <SCT-ROXBURGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:24 AM Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: SCT-ROXBURGH-D Digest V04 #176 > Hi Allison, > > I saw your post re Elliots and wonder if you have an Isabella Elliot in your > lot? > > She is given as the mother of my Jane/Jean Deans who died 1900 (born c 1810 > Roberton, Rox) and was married to Peter Deans. I have not found any marriage > for them or siblings of Jane/Jean, in fact this is the only info I do have > of her family. > > Carol > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try Crosier-L@rootsweb.com Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Thanks for replying to my Monumental Inscriptions. I did find a death of James AITKIN through the Scotlands people, i think this could be him. Just thought someone could have had the monumental inscription before i sent the £10 for the certificate to make sure. It is held at the Marine Register so it looks like he was lost at sea. I did ask what Marine Register meant, a few days ago, and got a couple of answers explaining it. Going to have to get an extension in this mind of mine to store it all. Any way made my mind up to send for it, just hope it is the right one. Thanks again for all your help. George

Hi Allison, I saw your post re Elliots and wonder if you have an Isabella Elliot in your lot? She is given as the mother of my Jane/Jean Deans who died 1900 (born c 1810 Roberton, Rox) and was married to Peter Deans. I have not found any marriage for them or siblings of Jane/Jean, in fact this is the only info I do have of her family. Carol

Further to some of the earlier answers, MIs for Hawick do exist as published in the Transactions of the Hawick Archaeological Society of some years ago, which you can find at some of the larger libraries. They have Hawick inscriptions for: St. Mary's Churchyard: 1935-1938, 1940 (index to names) Wellogate Cemetery (Heritor's Area): 1942-44, 1946-48, 1950, 1952 (index to names) Wilton Old Churchyard: 1937-39 (1939 includes index to names) I personally have most of the transcriptions for the 1950s and 1960s if this is any help - unfortunately I don't have the earlier ones. Hope this may be of some help, Graham Maxwell Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire

Good morning, Have been watching the number of enquiries re Monumental Inscriptions posted lately on a number of Lists. One should remember M.I. records do not provide anywhere like a full list of those buried in a particular churchyard. In many cases OPR's contain "Burial Records" and give a much more accurate list of those who have died in a particular parish. I.E. North Leith ,Edinburgh. 87 MI's in the publication 235 in OPR Burial Records. So many stones have been broken or disappeared or never existed in the first place. I spend a considerable time checking OPR's Burial Records looking for seamen and their families , with a great deal of success. Regards. John John D. Stevenson, Trinity Research Services, Scottish Maritime History Research. Edinburgh.

Thanks John for letting me know. George

Hi George, I As i have most of the Monumental Inscriptions for the Border of Scotland i am sorry to say none has been done for Hawick Parish or Wilton Parish. To see them you will have to got to the Border Family History Society at Old Gala House, Galashiels, in the border of Scotland. Unfortunate Old Gala House is not open till next spring. John Murray.

Researching Donaldson family from 1700's from Midhold Roxborough Scotland. Migrated to N.Ireland, then to U.S. Some names--Thomas, (wife-Jean Thomas) Richard,James, Mary,and Margaret Hogg.Can anyone help? M.J. Donaldson

I have been going through my 19 generations of Elliots and have queries about some of the families into which members married. Here are just a few and if we could exchange any information on them I would be delighted I note that some of these names have recently come up on the list Any connection ? William Elliot of Penchrise married a BESSIE GRIEVE (she died 1683) Ninian Elliot (son of the above William) married AGNES PATTERSON ? NINIAN ELLIOT (son of above Ninian) MARRIED (3rd wife) a JANET ROBSON (born 1731 at Dod, Castleton) Where ever Dod is ? Is anyone researching the ARMSTRONGS OF RICCARTON MILL because there are several Elliots marrying into this family CHRISTIAN ELLIOT (1728-1790)MARRIED THOMAS ARMSTRONG AND HENRY ARMSTRONG married HELEN ELLIOT MARGARET ELLIOT (1738-1827) MARRIED ARCHIBAL ARMSTRONG OF SORBIETREES WILLIAM GLENDINNING (1758-1840) MARRIED MARY ELLIOT (dau of Ninian Elliot of Riccarton) Their daughter married Janet Glendinning to John ARMSTRONG son of Christopher & Mary Oliver Their daughter Mary married John Kyle Adam glendinning married MARGARET ROBSON dau of Adam robson and Mary Pott Their daughter Helen married Walter Ketchin Alison in a cold and snowy Calgary

Could anyone with the monumental inscriptions for Hawick and Wilton, please have a look to see if there is a James and Ann AITKIN nee MILLER in there. I have both birth and marriage certs and Anns death cert but i cannot find James death anywhere. They were Married in 1875, James aged 20 and Ann aged 25. Thanks in Advance. George

Hi Just noticed a message from Katherine Vair Paterson in Toronto 28 Oct asking about my Amos connections with Hobkirk. I have a William Amos born somewhere between 1791 and 1802 (thought it was 1802 then death certificate with age makes it more 1791) I think to a Walter Amos and Jane Elliott. Don't know if that is the same section or not. Andrea Walker Hull England ____________________________________________________________________________ This email and all attachments have been electronically scanned by Kingston Communications' email Anti-Virus service and no known viruses were detected. ____________________________________________________________________________