Is there something afoot with Rootsweb, My message has turned up about 3 times now. And this one will probably do the same. Similiar things happening on other lists. Judy ---------- >From: "J A Olsen" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: KELLY in LauderRe: [SCT-ROX] Re: SCT-ROXBURGH-D Digest V03 #104 >Date: 29, Mon Sep, 2003, 11:00 pm >

I have just looked at www.pro.gov.uk and the IGI. Did you notice that the IGI record was a patron submission? This usually sounds a warning bell, yet there is both a birth date and a christening date and if you check out the batch number there are quite a few records. Can anyone throw any light on this? Its not the usual 'Abt' patron submission. Judy ---------- >From: S & A Liddle <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: SCT-ROXBURGH-D Digest V03 #104 >Date: 29, Mon Sep, 2003, 4:43 am > > > Thanks Judy. I tracked down my James Kelly on the PRO site you referred me to > and now have found his birth and parents on the IGI. They were from Lauder. > Simon > > >> [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >

I have just looked at www.pro.gov.uk and the IGI. Did you notice that the IGI record was a patron submission? This usually sounds a warning bell, yet there is both a birth date and a christening date and if you check out the batch number there are quite a few records. Can anyone throw any light on this? Its not the usual 'Abt' patron submission. Judy ---------- >From: S & A Liddle <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: SCT-ROXBURGH-D Digest V03 #104 >Date: 29, Mon Sep, 2003, 4:43 am > > > Thanks Judy. I tracked down my James Kelly on the PRO site you referred me to > and now have found his birth and parents on the IGI. They were from Lauder. > Simon > > >> [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >

That's brilliant. I think you are right that its not a particularly common name in the area. I know that Irish workers came over at busy times on the farms but I don't know if it was going on this early. My thoughts being that perhaps an earlier ancestor had come over for the harvest or haymaking and met a local girl. I think the Borders family History Society may publish a booklet of MIs for Lauder - anyone know? Judy ---------- >From: S & A Liddle <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Re: SCT-ROXBURGH-D Digest V03 #104 >Date: 29, Mon Sep, 2003, 4:43 am > > > Thanks Judy. I tracked down my James Kelly on the PRO site you referred me to > and now have found his birth and parents on the IGI. They were from Lauder. > Simon > > >> [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > Please send all your messages via the list so that we can all benefit from > your knowledge and hopefully add to it. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Judy. I tracked down my James Kelly on the PRO site you referred me to and now have found his birth and parents on the IGI. They were from Lauder. Simon > [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >

Ted Sorry to pour cold water. There is a chance that you have the right person but only a small chance. Unless you have other evidence to suggest that your man was born in Southdean then just file it under 'possible'. You are dealing with a VERY common surname and two VERY common given names. Your Adam may just not appear on the IGI, either because the records didnt survive or because the family was not Church of Scotland. Many families werent. He may have had children who died and had other names. He and his wife may not have stuck to the naming pattern. I know it is hugely frustrating when you cant find relatives in the early 19thc because I have exactly the same problem. You say you have him in census records - what do they say about his birth place? If he lived until 1855 then his death cert should give his parents names. Sorry to be so negative. The IGI is incredibly useful but must be treated with caution. Judy ---------- >From: Ted Lanning <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] SCOTT's in Southdean >Date: 27, Sat Sep, 2003, 10:42 pm > > Hi Listers, > I am searching for the roots of my 2x grgrandfather Adam SCOTT. I know > for sure that he was married in Forteviot nr Perth in 1837 to Margaret > NIVEN. In the marriage declaration it was indicated that he was from the > nearby village of Dunning however I have never been able to find his > birth there. Also, according to one of the Census', he would have been > born abt 1813. > > In the IGI, there is an Adam SCOTT, c. 6 Sep 1812 in Southdean, which I > understand is near Chesters on hwy 6088. > > There is one more big clue. According to the IGI, the parents of the > Adam born in Southdean were Thomas SCOTT & Mary HOBKIRK. The children of > "my" Adam and Margaret were -- first son was Thomas and the second > daughter was Mary -- a perfect match for the naming tradition in > Scotland at the time. Was "my" Adam born in Southdean???? > > Does anyone out there have any knowledge of the SCOTT's of > Southdean and specifically Adam. > > Any assistance would be very much appreciated. > Cheers, > Ted > West Vancouver, BC, CAN > > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > ARE you a Crosier or Crozier, or connected to one of them, then why not try > [email protected] Surely it's got to be worth a try? > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Listers, I am searching for the roots of my 2x grgrandfather Adam SCOTT. I know for sure that he was married in Forteviot nr Perth in 1837 to Margaret NIVEN. In the marriage declaration it was indicated that he was from the nearby village of Dunning however I have never been able to find his birth there. Also, according to one of the Census', he would have been born abt 1813. In the IGI, there is an Adam SCOTT, c. 6 Sep 1812 in Southdean, which I understand is near Chesters on hwy 6088. There is one more big clue. According to the IGI, the parents of the Adam born in Southdean were Thomas SCOTT & Mary HOBKIRK. The children of "my" Adam and Margaret were -- first son was Thomas and the second daughter was Mary -- a perfect match for the naming tradition in Scotland at the time. Was "my" Adam born in Southdean???? Does anyone out there have any knowledge of the SCOTT's of Southdean and specifically Adam. Any assistance would be very much appreciated. Cheers, Ted West Vancouver, BC, CAN

Hi Sandy & Pat: We have a Barbara Cumming in our family tree, birth c1801 Roxburgh Scotland died c 1852 enroute from Scotland to Canada. She was married 24 Jul 1825, Merton, Berwick, Scotland to Andrew Donald Saint Bossil's, Roxburgh Scotland . Immigrated to Arthur Township, Ont c1852. You mention the name Deans in your letters. Our other Scottish grandfather Geo. Murdoch and his sister Ann also immigrated the same year from Roxborough. Ann remained at Bright Ont and Geo. walked to Arthur Township Ont where he bought a hundred acres of bushland. While he was building his log cabin etc. he stayed with a Walter Deans, already settled here. (coincidence?) He later married Margaret Donald, who lived several miles north, daughter of Barbara Cumming & Andrew Donald, (another coincidence?) We have always supposed the families knew each other in Scotland. Maybe not much help to you, but there could be a connection here somewhere? Jean F. Ontario Sandi wrote: >Hi, I am new to this list and am researching my Cumming family. In our family bible we have Walter Cumming b. December 24, 1829 Hawick married to Isabella Deans b.June 19, 1830, now my problem is I went to the LDS homepage and on the IGI they have two marriages for what appears to be the same people. >Walter Cumming m Isabella Deans Aug 1 1852 in Wilton Roxbugh and Walter Cumming m Isabella Deans Aug 9 1852 in Hawick Roxburgh. > >>From what I have read, detailed records started 1855, and I can't find where I could send for these if someone could tell me where. > >My family records always had Walter born in Hawick and his father as being William Cumming b. March 1813 and mother Janet, I was hoping to find Walter's marriage cert so I could confirm who his mother is for I can't find a marriage reg for William with or without a wife Janet. From what I found on William, he was 16yrs 10 months old when Walter was born by IGI records, his parents names Robert Cumming and Marian Lillico match my family's records, but there seems to be a information jump between Robert and Walter in the IGI. I can't find any siblings for Walter and my family didn't record any. > > If anyone has any information on this family your help would be greatly appriecated > >Sandi > > >==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== >'Here's tae us, wha's like us? Damn few and thair a' deid.' > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Sandy, Do you know what Walter Cummings did for a living. The reason I ask is that the following family is in the 1851 census for Hawick: 1 Melgund Place - House adjoining Andrew Wight's Robert Cumming - Head - Married - 44 Wool Sorter - born Roxburgh, Ashkirk Isabella Cumming - Wife - Married - 50 - born Roxburgh, Ancrum Walter Cumming - Son - Unmarried - 21 - Woollen Yarn Spinner - born Roxburgh, Hawick Janet Cumming - Daughter - Unmarried - 19 - Woollen Yarn Finisher - born Roxburgh, Hawick Margaret Cumming - Daughter - Unmarried - 8 - Scholar at home - born Roxburgh, Hawick Elizabeth Cumming - Daughter - Unmarried - 5 - Scholar at home - born Roxburgh, Hawick Margret Cumming - Grandaughter - Unmarried - 1 1/2 - born Roxburgh, Hawick While the parents are different Walter is the right age. Coincidence or not, there is also an Isabella Deans living in Backdamgate. She is aged 20, unmarried, born Roxburgh, Cavers and is a House Servant there. There is also an Alexander age 19 born in Cavers living in Hawick which might be her brother, plus about another Don't know if it helps. Good luck. Pat

Hi, I am new to this list and am researching my Cumming family. In our family bible we have Walter Cumming b. December 24, 1829 Hawick married to Isabella Deans b.June 19, 1830, now my problem is I went to the LDS homepage and on the IGI they have two marriages for what appears to be the same people. Walter Cumming m Isabella Deans Aug 1 1852 in Wilton Roxbugh and Walter Cumming m Isabella Deans Aug 9 1852 in Hawick Roxburgh. >From what I have read, detailed records started 1855, and I can't find where I could send for these if someone could tell me where. My family records always had Walter born in Hawick and his father as being William Cumming b. March 1813 and mother Janet, I was hoping to find Walter's marriage cert so I could confirm who his mother is for I can't find a marriage reg for William with or without a wife Janet. From what I found on William, he was 16yrs 10 months old when Walter was born by IGI records, his parents names Robert Cumming and Marian Lillico match my family's records, but there seems to be a information jump between Robert and Walter in the IGI. I can't find any siblings for Walter and my family didn't record any. If anyone has any information on this family your help would be greatly appriecated Sandi

Hi Sandi, The double listing of "marriages" in the Scottish parochial records results primarily from the fact that they often are not records of the actual marriage, but rather records of the proclamation of the banns. In fact, many of these are part of the accounting records of the churches in question. So, if the couple were not from the same parish, there were at least two records, one in her parish, one in his, and for some parishes there are records of the actual marriage. All, some, or none of these records may have survived. Civil registration began in 1855. The marriage you reference was in 1852, so you will be stuck with the usually more limited information kept by the churches, often no more than the names of the couple. Good luck, Don Asquith

Hi I wonder if anyone can help me with a bit of puzzle. My 4 x great grandparents were John ROBSON and Susan(nah) SELBY. According to the IGI they were married 29 Dec 1780 in Jedburgh. I have their children and children's children so know they are mine and were married at the right time. The puzzle is the batch number that the marriage comes under is M117928 which is for marriages 1821-1854 and not 1780. in fact according to the IGI there isn't a batch covering the year 1780. I have searched the OPR's on the GRO for Scotland for every year available and have come up with 0. Their burial is in Byrness churchyard just across the border along with most of the family before and after. I also find their children being christened in Northumberland. I had always made the assumption that they married in Scotland because they were Presbyterian and didn't want to marry in the Church of England. I will start looking in my records in Northumberland for the marriage but I just wondered if anyone had come across anything like this before. I know there are transcription errors on the IGI but this has got to be more than a transcription error I think. Cheers Lesley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003

Hi Lesley, I checked your situation re the marriage of John ROBSON and Susan(nah) SELBY in FamilySearch.org and in the Catalog for the FHL in Salt Lake on CD, and it would all appear to be as you describe. Most importantly, the Catalog says that there are no marriage records for the parish church in Jedburg between 1772 and 1821. From what you say, you already did all this, but I had to check before expounding on possibilities. Based on my limited experience with the IGI, the Scottish CD, and searching the microfilm of the records extracted to these indices, there is the possibility that there is an extraneous record of some sort mixed in with those for 1821-54. I am not saying it is there, but I have been surprised at times at what is on the films of these records. They are an amazing assortment of chaos mixed with order in various proportions, and you just have to make do with what has survived. Of course, there is always the possibility that the date is simply in error. However, that seems unlikely because the data on the record otherwise fit data you have for that time period. The bottom line is that you probably won't know unless you search that film yourself. Good luck, Don Asquith on 9/24/03 10:32 AM, Lesley Murray at [email protected] wrote: > Hi > > I wonder if anyone can help me with a bit of puzzle. > > My 4 x great grandparents were John ROBSON and Susan(nah) SELBY. According > to the IGI they were married 29 Dec 1780 in Jedburgh. I have their children > and children's children so know they are mine and were married at the right > time. The puzzle is the batch number that the marriage comes under is > M117928 which is for marriages 1821-1854 and not 1780. in fact according to > the IGI there isn't a batch covering the year 1780. > > I have searched the OPR's on the GRO for Scotland for every year available > and have come up with 0. > > Their burial is in Byrness churchyard just across the border along with most > of the family before and after. I also find their children being christened > in Northumberland. I had always made the assumption that they married in > Scotland because they were Presbyterian and didn't want to marry in the > Church of England. > > I will start looking in my records in Northumberland for the marriage but I > just wondered if anyone had come across anything like this before. I know > there are transcription errors on the IGI but this has got to be more than a > transcription error I think. > > Cheers > > Lesley

Have done just a you suggested Roy. I hadn't realised there was a list just for the UK. Thanks for the pointer. Cheers Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy G. Perkins To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: [SCT-ROX] Fw: Murray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy G. Perkins" <[email protected]> To: "ROXBURGH" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Murray. > Hi All, > > Just a note, in case anyone is interested, to say that I've recently taken > over the Murray-UK list at Rootsweb, if you're looking for Murrays why not > give it a try? > > Regards > > Roy > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== Please send all your messages via the list so that we can all benefit from your knowledge and hopefully add to it. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.520 / Virus Database: 318 - Release Date: 18/09/2003

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy G. Perkins" <[email protected]> To: "ROXBURGH" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Murray. > Hi All, > > Just a note, in case anyone is interested, to say that I've recently taken > over the Murray-UK list at Rootsweb, if you're looking for Murrays why not > give it a try? > > Regards > > Roy >

If you go to the catalogue at www.pro.gov.uk and search for James AND Kelly and the ref WO you get 81 hits. If you know your mans age you could narrow it down. One of them might be him.... Judy ---------- >From: S & A Liddle <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Soldiers in Kelso 1809 >Date: 10, Wed Sep, 2003, 6:32 am > > Do any listers know if soldiers were stationed in Kelso around 1809. I have a > soldier, James Kelly, who married a local in 1809 in Kelso. For the next 12 years > he was at the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, London. The surname doesn't > seem to be common in Kelso at the time so I assume he was not a local. > > Simon >

Hi All, Just a note, in case anyone is interested, to say that I've recently taken over the Murray-UK list at Rootsweb, if you're looking for Murrays why not give it a try? Regards Roy

Sorry, I meant walking distance from Edinburgh...... Judy ---------- >From: "J A Olsen" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SCT-ROX] Soldiers in Kelso 1809 >Date: 21, Sun Sep, 2003, 1:31 pm > > Unless it says that he was stationed in Kelso you need to keep an open mind > - Kelso was walking distance for a fit young man.

The answer to this may require some digging. As I am sure you know this was a busy time for soldiers and the country must have been swarming with them. Soldier could mean regular army or local militia, either way they may have been moving around quite frequently. Unless it says that he was stationed in Kelso you need to keep an open mind - Kelso was walking distance for a fit young man. You might have better luck finding his regiment in London, altho I understand men did transfer, including rejoining as regulars after service in the militia. Judy ---------- >From: S & A Liddle <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCT-ROX] Soldiers in Kelso 1809 >Date: 10, Wed Sep, 2003, 6:32 am > > Do any listers know if soldiers were stationed in Kelso around 1809. I have a > soldier, James Kelly, who married a local in 1809 in Kelso. For the next 12 years > he was at the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, London. The surname doesn't > seem to be common in Kelso at the time so I assume he was not a local. > > Simon > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > Please send all your messages via the list so that we can all benefit from > your knowledge and hopefully add to it. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Greg, Walter Oliver, born Jedburgh, circa 1847. Walter's gravestone in Ettleton Cemetry, Newcastleton reads: "In Loving Memory of Walter Oliver who died at Newcastleton, 5th February 1938 aged 90 years. Mainy his wife who died at Newcastleton. 13th March 1947 aged 81 years." Sorry but I have no further information on this couple probably because its not a family I've ever researched, but have a look at the list archives because there was a big discussion about the Olivers a few months ago. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Gregory Baldwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:58 AM Subject: [SCT-ROX] OLIVER Surname > G'day Cobbers, > > Have the following OLIVER ancestry, as below: > > Descendants of Isabel DAVIDSON & William OLIVER > > William OLIVER, b. circa 1740 in Scotland, christened 22 Dec 1745. > > He married Isabel DAVIDSON, married circa 1763 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1745 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > I. Andrew OLIVER, b. 06 Jul 1764 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Bef > 1841. > > He married Margaret SMAIL, married circa 1790 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1760. > > A. William OLIVER, b. 03 Dec 1792 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, > christened 17 Mar 1703 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 30 Jun 1845 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (1) Ann LUNN, married 06 May 1833 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1810 in Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (2) UNKNOWN, married circa 1810 in Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 1. Robert OLIVER, (son of William OLIVER and Ann LUNN) b. circa 1811. > > He married Margaret PHAUP, married 22 Dec 1844 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1814 in Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft 1851. > > a. John OLIVER, b. circa 1845 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > b. William OLIVER, b. circa 1849 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 2. William OLIVER, (son of William OLIVER and Ann LUNN) b. circa 1812 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 03 Dec 1864 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, buried 05 Dec 1864 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Jane MURRAY, married 28 Sep 1832 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1814 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 25 Aug 1860 > in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, buried 28 Aug 1860 in Jedburgh, > Roxburgh, Scotland. > > a. William OLIVER, b. circa 1835 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > b. Adam OLIVER, b. circa 1837 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 13 Aug > 1893 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Cecelia BOYD, married 19 Oct 1860 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1842 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 29 Mar 1899 > in Pawtucket Providence, Rhode Island, USA. > > c. Ann OLIVER, b. circa 1840. > > d. Elizabeth OLIVER, b. 00 Jun 1842 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > e. Mary OLIVER, b. circa 1843 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > f. Agnes OLIVER, b. circa 1845 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > g. Walter OLIVER, b. circa 1847 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 02 > Feb 1937 in Newcastleton, Roxburgh, Scotland, buried in Newcastleton, > Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (1) Jane (Jessie) OLIVER, married 13 Oct 1871 in Galashiels, > Selkirk, Scotland, b. 03 Mar 1852 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 27 > Jan 1906 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (2) Mary UNKNOWN, married Aft 1906, b. circa 1850 in > Scotland, d. in Newcastleton, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > h. Jane OLIVER, b. circa 1850 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > i. Unknown OLIVER, b. 00 Dec 1851 in Roxburgh, Scotland, d. 21 Feb 1853 > in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > j. John OLIVER, b. 31 Mar 1856 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 3. Adam OLIVER, (son of William OLIVER and Ann LUNN) b. circa 1816, d. Aft > 1891. > > He married Isabella AITCHESON, married 29 Jul 1842 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1814 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft 1855. > > a. Isabella OLIVER, b. 04 Jun 1846 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. > Aft 1891. > > b. Ann OLIVER, b. 29 Mar 1849 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > c. Christina OLIVER, b. 10 Jun 1851 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > She married Andrew FAIRNINGTON, married 02 Jun 1871 in Jedburgh, > Roxburgh, Scotland, b. Bet 1842/1847 in Northumberland, England, d. Aft > 1881. > > d. Janet OLIVER, b. 27 Dec 1854 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > e. John OLIVER, b. 28 Jul 1843 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Helen White HALL, married 27 Dec 1866 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1846 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 4. Margaret OLIVER, (daughter of William OLIVER and Ann LUNN) b. circa > 1834 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > B. Andrew OLIVER, b. circa 1796 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Agnes UNKNOWN, married circa 1821 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1800 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 1. Andrew OLIVER, b. circa 1822. > > He married Ann LAMB, married 15 Feb 1861 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, > b. circa 1822 in Crailing, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > a. James OLIVER, b. 13 Dec 1861 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Agnes UNKNOWN, married circa 1885 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1863 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > b. Adam Watson OLIVER, b. 30 Oct 1863 in Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > c. Jane OLIVER, b. 21 Jun 1865 in Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 2. Ann OLIVER, b. circa 1825 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 3. Janet OLIVER, b. circa 1830 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 4. Isabella OLIVER, b. circa 1835 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > C. James OLIVER, b. circa 1800 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > D. James OLIVER, b. circa 1801 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (1) Ann WARK, married circa 1820 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1801 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married (2) Margaret UNKNOWN, married circa 1841 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1814 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 1. Thomas OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1818, d. 23 > Mar 1867 in High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Isabella WAUGH, married 12 Oct 1838 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1809, (daughter of Michael WAUGH and Janet > HALLIBURTON) d. 09 May 1869 in High Street, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland. > > a. James OLIVER, b. circa 1839. > > b. Michael OLIVER, b. circa 1841. > > He married Jane RICHARDSON, married 19 Sep 1862 in Wilton Place, Wilton, > Roxburgh, Scotland, b. circa 1845 in 14 Howgate, Hawick, (daughter of > Thomas RICHARDSON and Anges PARK). > > c. Ann OLIVER, b. circa 1843 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > d. Agnes OLIVER, b. circa 1849 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > Partner Unknown. > > Partner Hugh McLEAVY. > > She married (3) Charles LEFEVRE, married 18 May 1885 in Townsville, > Queensland, Australia, b. circa 1843 in Paris, France, (son of Alphous > LEFEVRE and Augusta Jean LOURALE). > > e. Thomas OLIVER, b. circa 1849 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 2. John OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1821 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 3. Janet OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1823 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 4. Jennet OLIVER, (daughter of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1825 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 5. Hall OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1827. > > 6. Andrew OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1828 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 7. David OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1831 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Sarah Jerdane DIXON, married 25 Jan 1856 in Camptown, > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, b. 15 May 1831 in Oxnam, > Roxburgh, Scotland, (daughter of Charles DIXON and Betty SCOTT). > > a. Elizabeth Turnbull OLIVER, b. 23 Nov 1857 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland. > > b. Hall OLIVER, b. 22 Feb 1862 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > c. Charles OLIVER, b. 18 Jun 1865 in Blackhills Close, Jedburgh, > Roxburgh, Scotland. > > d. Charles D. OLIVER, b. 29 Dec 1868 in Oxnam, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 8. Peter OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1836 in > Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 9. Elizabeth OLIVER, (daughter of James OLIVER and Ann WARK) b. circa 1839 > in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 10. Alex OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Margaret UNKNOWN) b. circa 1843 > in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Jane HAIG, married 17 Dec 1869 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. circa 1845 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > a. James OLIVER, b. circa 1869 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > b. Edward OLIVER, b. 02 Oct 1871 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > c. Margaret (Maggie) OLIVER, b. 25 Oct 1873 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland. > > d. Alex OLIVER, b. circa 1875 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > e. Robert OLIVER, b. circa 1877 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > f. Peter OLIVER, b. circa 1880 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > g. John OLIVER, b. circa 1882 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > h. Jane OLIVER, b. circa 1884 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > i. William OLIVER, b. circa 1887 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 11. Isabell OLIVER, (daughter of James OLIVER and Margaret UNKNOWN) b. > circa 1846 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 12. Adam OLIVER, (son of James OLIVER and Margaret UNKNOWN) b. circa 1846 > in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 13. Margaret OLIVER, (daughter of James OLIVER and Margaret UNKNOWN) b. > circa 1852 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > E. Thomas OLIVER, b. circa 1801 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft > 1851. > > He married Olive DOUGLAS, married 11 Jun 1830 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland, b. Bet 1807/1811 in Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft 1851. > > 1. Ann OLIVER, b. 18 Jun 1831 in Denbarsh Mill, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 2. Thomas OLIVER, b. 26 Jul 1834 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft > 1881. > > 3. Janet OLIVER, b. 04 Aug 1836 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft > 1881. > > 4. John OLIVER, b. 17 Nov 1838 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft > 1851. > > 5. William OLIVER, b. 17 Nov 1838 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Aft > 1891. > > He married Isabella CAIRNCROSS, married 18 Feb 1870 in Edinburgh Parish, > Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, b. circa 1848 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland. > > a. Thomas OLIVER, b. circa 1871 in Leith, Edinburgh, Midlothian, > Scotland. > > b. John OLIVER, b. circa 1873 in Leith, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. > > c. Alice OLIVER, b. circa 1874 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > d. William OLIVER, b. circa 1876 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > e. Douglas OLIVER, b. circa 1888 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > f. Olive OLIVER, b. circa 1879 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, d. Bef > 1881 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > g. Annie OLIVER, b. circa 1880 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > h. Archibald OLIVER, b. circa 1884 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 6. Isabella OLIVER, b. 29 Mar 1841 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, buried > Aft 1851. > > She married John CRAWFORD, married 12 Dec 1867 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, > Scotland. > > 7. Helen OLIVER, b. 19 Oct 1843 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 8. Jane OLIVER, b. 11 Nov 1846 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > F. John OLIVER, b. circa 1805 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > He married Jane UNKNOWN, married circa 1837 in Roxburgh, Scotland, b. > circa 1810 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 1. George OLIVER, b. circa 1837 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > 2. John OLIVER, b. circa 1840 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > G. Mary OLIVER, b. circa 1805 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > H. Walter OLIVER, b. circa 1806 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > II. Betty OLIVER, b. 10 Oct 1766 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > III. Robert OLIVER, b. 26 Mar 1770 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > IV. Janet OLIVER, b. 07 Apr 1772 in Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland. > > > Look forward to hearing from anybody who can assist me with the above. > > Regards > > Greg Baldwin - Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia > My Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ > AIGS 9842 > A&NESFHS 9933 > KFHS 7737 > Researching Surnames: > ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. > BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS > BENTON - Warwick, Eng > BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS > BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT > BROWN - Wellington, NZ > CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT > CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT > COKER - Rongatai, Wellington, NZ > CROALL - Scotland > NZ > CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ > DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. > FRANCES - AUS > GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT > INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand > INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT > LANGDON - NZ > LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. > LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. > LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand > MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. > MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS > MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > McFADDEN -Down, NIR > McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS > McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS > McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT > McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS > McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS > RAFFAN - Banff, SCT > REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. > REYNOLDS/RUNNALLS - Cornwall, Eng. > ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT > RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS > SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT > SMITH - SCT > SPRENGER - Qld, AUS > STUART - Moray, SCT > WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS > WARBURTON - New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ > WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. > WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand > email to: [email protected] > Australian Genealogy: http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html > Australian On-Line Surname List: > http://www.users.on.net/proformat/ausnames.html > Aussie Slang: http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/garden/386/kev.htm > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by VET anti-virus software > > > > ==== SCT-ROXBURGH Mailing List ==== > AUGUST THEME: Is 'USEFUL WEBSITES', which includes all websites you have found useful in yourgenealogical or local history research. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >