Hi Frank, I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now and so I thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his death I am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to go back on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 who died before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children Robert b 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano tuner. He went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal aunt Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. At very least therefore Robert married his step cousin. If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who didn't die till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding Kerr to his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as Maggie. Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, Coleraine when he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person who was his uncle by marriage). Robert and his family were back in Glasgow by 1901 and he died there in 1918. The last son definately born in Ireland was born in Coleraine in 1885. The eldest daughter was born in Paisley, but they may have come back just for the birth as that was not uncommon. So he may have been in Ireland before the marriage and right through till later than 1885 except for visits. All I know about Annie Paton is that she was supposed to be a spinster and to live on the Glasgow Road. My granny was named for her, but no I know of no Dumfries links at all, definately no Kerr ones (yet!). Regards Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <bankie@cedarwoods.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > Moira > You mentioned that the Patons went to Ulster for an extended > period,what info do you have on that ?? > I'll see if I can find out more from John about his side. > By the way,my gr.gr.grandmother was Annie Kerr from Tynron > Dumfries,any connections to that Shire.She married Peter Dewar of > Wiston Lanarkshire. > > Frank McGonigal ( born in Clydebank Dunbartonshire ) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > Hi Frank, > > My great grandfather was born Robert Paton in Paisley > but was > > known as and died as Robert Paton Kerr. His offspring took the > surname Kerr. > > His father was Robert Paton and his mther was Margaret Kerr. There > are at > > least four possible reasons why he took his mothers surname and > sadly two > > different versions have been handed down! > > RPK was born 1851 Paisley (but not Abbey I looked!). > > His father was born around 1820 and his mother, the same. RPK had a > sister > > Margaret according to IGI and a sister Annie according to the > family. > > Thats all I know so far... > > Moira > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > >

Hi Moira, we have recently discovered that my GGrandfather born abt 1841 came from Grennock, Renfrew, we go by Melvin, when he converted to the R.C. Faith at 17 in Nfld his name was record not as William Melvin but William Meldrum. Would you have any information on this??? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > Hi Frank, > I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now and so I > thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. > Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his death I > am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to go back > on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 who died > before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children Robert b > 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano tuner. He > went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal aunt > Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. At very > least therefore Robert married his step cousin. > If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who didn't die > till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding Kerr to > his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as Maggie. > > Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his > marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, Coleraine when > he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person who was > his uncle by marriage). > Robert and his family were back in Glasgow by 1901 and he died there in > 1918. The last son definately born in Ireland was born in Coleraine in 1885. > The eldest daughter was born in Paisley, but they may have come back just > for the birth as that was not uncommon. So he may have been in Ireland > before the marriage and right through till later than 1885 except for > visits. > All I know about Annie Paton is that she was supposed to be a spinster and > to live on the Glasgow Road. My granny was named for her, but no I know of > no Dumfries links at all, definately no Kerr ones (yet!). > Regards > Moira > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank McGonigal" <bankie@cedarwoods.com> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > Moira > > You mentioned that the Patons went to Ulster for an extended > > period,what info do you have on that ?? > > I'll see if I can find out more from John about his side. > > By the way,my gr.gr.grandmother was Annie Kerr from Tynron > > Dumfries,any connections to that Shire.She married Peter Dewar of > > Wiston Lanarkshire. > > > > Frank McGonigal ( born in Clydebank Dunbartonshire ) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > My great grandfather was born Robert Paton in Paisley > > but was > > > known as and died as Robert Paton Kerr. His offspring took the > > surname Kerr. > > > His father was Robert Paton and his mther was Margaret Kerr. There > > are at > > > least four possible reasons why he took his mothers surname and > > sadly two > > > different versions have been handed down! > > > RPK was born 1851 Paisley (but not Abbey I looked!). > > > His father was born around 1820 and his mother, the same. RPK had a > > sister > > > Margaret according to IGI and a sister Annie according to the > > family. > > > Thats all I know so far... > > > Moira > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ >

Sorry Gail, No information on Meldrum at all. Hope some else on list can link. Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Quigley" <quigbg@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > Hi Moira, we have recently discovered that my GGrandfather born abt 1841 > came from Grennock, Renfrew, we go by Melvin, when he converted to the R.C. > Faith at 17 in Nfld his name was record not as William Melvin but William > Meldrum. > > Would you have any information on this??? > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > > > > Hi Frank, > > I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now and so I > > thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. > > Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his death > I > > am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to go back > > on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 who died > > before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children Robert > b > > 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano tuner. > He > > went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal aunt > > Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. At very > > least therefore Robert married his step cousin. > > If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who didn't > die > > till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding Kerr to > > his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as Maggie. > > > > Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his > > marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, Coleraine > when > > he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person who > was > > his uncle by marriage). > > Robert and his family were back in Glasgow by 1901 and he died there in > > 1918. The last son definately born in Ireland was born in Coleraine in > 1885. > > The eldest daughter was born in Paisley, but they may have come back just > > for the birth as that was not uncommon. So he may have been in Ireland > > before the marriage and right through till later than 1885 except for > > visits. > > All I know about Annie Paton is that she was supposed to be a spinster and > > to live on the Glasgow Road. My granny was named for her, but no I know of > > no Dumfries links at all, definately no Kerr ones (yet!). > > Regards > > Moira > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank McGonigal" <bankie@cedarwoods.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > > > > Moira > > > You mentioned that the Patons went to Ulster for an extended > > > period,what info do you have on that ?? > > > I'll see if I can find out more from John about his side. > > > By the way,my gr.gr.grandmother was Annie Kerr from Tynron > > > Dumfries,any connections to that Shire.She married Peter Dewar of > > > Wiston Lanarkshire. > > > > > > Frank McGonigal ( born in Clydebank Dunbartonshire ) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > My great grandfather was born Robert Paton in Paisley > > > but was > > > > known as and died as Robert Paton Kerr. His offspring took the > > > surname Kerr. > > > > His father was Robert Paton and his mther was Margaret Kerr. There > > > are at > > > > least four possible reasons why he took his mothers surname and > > > sadly two > > > > different versions have been handed down! > > > > RPK was born 1851 Paisley (but not Abbey I looked!). > > > > His father was born around 1820 and his mother, the same. RPK had a > > > sister > > > > Margaret according to IGI and a sister Annie according to the > > > family. > > > > Thats all I know so far... > > > > Moira > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > >

Hi Gail Have you seem this site? http://www.royalriver.net/meldrum/ There is also a Muldrow web page which I can't find at the moment, I thought I had it in my favourites as there are connections with McMuldroch's (my area of research) but it is not there! Senile decay probably. Apaarently some of that lot changed to Meldrum's as well Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Quigley" <quigbg@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > Hi Moira, we have recently discovered that my GGrandfather born abt 1841 > came from Grennock, Renfrew, we go by Melvin, when he converted to the R.C. > Faith at 17 in Nfld his name was record not as William Melvin but William > Meldrum. > > Would you have any information on this??? > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > > > > Hi Frank, > > I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now and so I > > thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. > > Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his death > I > > am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to go back > > on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 who died > > before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children Robert > b > > 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano tuner. > He > > went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal aunt > > Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. At very > > least therefore Robert married his step cousin. > > If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who didn't > die > > till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding Kerr to > > his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as Maggie. > > > > Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his > > marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, Coleraine > when > > he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person who > was > > his uncle by marriage). > > Robert and his family were back in Glasgow by 1901 and he died there in > > 1918. The last son definately born in Ireland was born in Coleraine in > 1885. > > The eldest daughter was born in Paisley, but they may have come back just > > for the birth as that was not uncommon. So he may have been in Ireland > > before the marriage and right through till later than 1885 except for > > visits. > > All I know about Annie Paton is that she was supposed to be a spinster and > > to live on the Glasgow Road. My granny was named for her, but no I know of > > no Dumfries links at all, definately no Kerr ones (yet!). > > Regards > > Moira > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank McGonigal" <bankie@cedarwoods.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > > > > Moira > > > You mentioned that the Patons went to Ulster for an extended > > > period,what info do you have on that ?? > > > I'll see if I can find out more from John about his side. > > > By the way,my gr.gr.grandmother was Annie Kerr from Tynron > > > Dumfries,any connections to that Shire.She married Peter Dewar of > > > Wiston Lanarkshire. > > > > > > Frank McGonigal ( born in Clydebank Dunbartonshire ) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] McCrone of Paisley > > > > > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > My great grandfather was born Robert Paton in Paisley > > > but was > > > > known as and died as Robert Paton Kerr. His offspring took the > > > surname Kerr. > > > > His father was Robert Paton and his mther was Margaret Kerr. There > > > are at > > > > least four possible reasons why he took his mothers surname and > > > sadly two > > > > different versions have been handed down! > > > > RPK was born 1851 Paisley (but not Abbey I looked!). > > > > His father was born around 1820 and his mother, the same. RPK had a > > > sister > > > > Margaret according to IGI and a sister Annie according to the > > > family. > > > > Thats all I know so far... > > > > Moira > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

Hi Moira I tried to forward your new information to John Paton my 4th cousin but it bounced. I'll try and get his new E mail addy,that shouldn't be too hard,as he's married to my wifes niece !! Cheers Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > Hi Frank, > I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now and so I > thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. > Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his death I > am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to go back > on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 who died > before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children Robert b > 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano tuner. He > went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal aunt > Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. At very > least therefore Robert married his step cousin. > If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who didn't die > till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding Kerr to > his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as Maggie. > > Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his > marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, Coleraine when > he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person who was > his uncle by marriage).

Hi frank, I couldn't resist going on to SP and getting more info. Robert 1820 was born to John Paton shoemaker and Marion Craig. His first wife died before 1856 when Robert married his second wife Annie Blackie McAlpine and had at least six children with her. It looks like the Ann Paton was hers, as well as Jane Munn, John, William McAlpine, Marion and James. Jane married David Harvey. John married twice, once to Catherine Moore and then to Jame Ritchie Pearson who survived him. These two died in Paisley so I could pick them out. The others will have to wait till I can find out more from census data before I can pinpoint them! Somebody will know these folk! Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <bankie@cedarwoods.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > Hi Moira > I tried to forward your new information to John Paton my 4th cousin > but it bounced. > I'll try and get his new E mail addy,that shouldn't be too hard,as > he's married to my wifes niece !! > Cheers > Frank > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] patons of Paisley > > > > Hi Frank, > > I know quite a bit more about my Paisley patons now > and so I > > thought I'd update you in case we can make a link. > > Robert Paton b 1820 remains top of my tree, though having found his > death I > > am waiting to collect enough things I want from Scotlandspeople to > go back > > on again!!. He was a shoemaker. He married Margaret Kerr in 1846 > who died > > before 1873 and maybe long before this. He had three known children > Robert b > > 1850, Margaret 1847 and Annie. Robert junior was blind and a piano > tuner. He > > went on to marry Maggie Allan, and I now know that Robert's maternal > aunt > > Agnes married Maggie's widowed father and brought up his children. > At very > > least therefore Robert married his step cousin. > > If as family story has it Robert was rejected by his father, who > didn't die > > till 1882, and he was brought up by a maternal aunt, hence adding > Kerr to > > his name, he may have been brought up in the same household as > Maggie. > > > > Robert put 3 Orchard street, Londonderry as his usual address on his > > marriage certificate in 1873 and lived at Alexander Terrace, > Coleraine when > > he was the informant for his father-in laws death ( the same person > who was > > his uncle by marriage). > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > >