Hello Jim in sweltering Western Australia, and other Renfrew listers. I was interested in your problem, Jim. I agreed with those who responded, that due to a very high mortality rate, these children would likely be deaths and later births named after the former child. As I was in the Family History Library in SLC today, I thought I’d do a little checking and discovered the above conclusion to be the fact. I knew there are practically none, if any, death records in Scotland. What they do have occasionally, is the payment of mortcloth dues for a burial, and usually only giving the person’s name. A mortcloth is the shroud the person is buried in, since caskets were not generally used in those early days. As I expected, there were no death records for the three Paisley parishes but I found that Abbey parish did have burial records. And I might say, they are among the best I’ve seen. The following is taken from FHL film #1041089 burials for Abbey Parish, 1783-1819 March 1, 1773, BARR, the middle velvet mortcloth to the corpse, John Barr, Daughter, lying in town of “Reace” (sp)……………………………………..1/8 This apparently was not a child. No given name noted. This might also suggest there are burials of children who weren't christened. 24 August, 1773 BARR, the child’s mortcloth to the corpse of James Barr, child lying in Hunlet . …………………………………………………………../10 Another child died on Dec 29, 1773, but the writer accidentally copied the last sentence of another entry, making this one rather unidentifiable. Beginning 1785 the deaths were in columns giving date, name, place and cause of death in some years; particularly later, and amount paid Example of another child of yours: On 22 Jan, 1789 Alex’r Barr, Causeyside (my interpretation), disease was not given. Disadvantage, no relationship provided 1795-1819 the column headings were date of death, name, family relationship, cause of death age, and amount due. 1819 completed this microfilm, though later years appeared to be the same. Other burial records for Abbey parish are: 1819-1826, Film #1041090 & 1833-1864 Film # 1041091 Most of the burials were children and, in 1778 for example, nearly all burials were children. I happened to notice on 14 Aug. 1833 Jannet BARR died of debility, age 60, of Newton, (sp) She would have been born around 1833, if her age is close, and could be a relative. I would suggest ordering these films from your Family History Center, as I only did an introductory look. You need time to search and also, figure out the handwriting. Hopefully one is close enough to you. Good Hunting Don Wilson, formerly Ontario, Canada Spanish Fork, Utah