Hi, Ylana, You have a great history! Yes, the sheer numbers of Scottish in the US is staggering. After joining this list, I realize that from my school days, nearly everyone has a Scottish name. Don't apologize! I know some of your family's history from looking for mine. Do you have any info about the Renfrew/Renfro family in Scotland? I am looking for them. I wonder if mine are a branch of yours.... Thank you. April ----- Original Message ----- From: Lana Renfro-Moye <ylanamoye@earthlink.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] The Scottish in America. > I am related through my Maternal Great-Great Grandfather. He was a Lewis. > > My Renfro family was also neighbors to George Washington. > > They were taught to survey by the same person. > > I was not attempting to namedrop or impress. > > I just wanted to help the person who wrote the cranky email understand that > we Scottish descendants have been very involved in the building of the > United States. > > Our ancestors didn't have it easy here either. > > > I'm related to Daniel Boone through the Van Bibber family. I know that he > was not Scottish. I risked the assumption that the writer would know who > Daniel Boone was. Wanted them to understand that our Scottish immigrants > were very involved in the building of this country. They suffered many > hardships. I lost many family members, Renfro and Van Bibber as they > traveled with Daniel Boone on his trip west. The Renfro line is Scottish. > > > Ylana > Stoneyfields Ranch > > Remember what your elders used to say, "Birds of a feather flock together." > If you're an eagle, don't hang around chickens: Chickens Can't Fly! > You can't soar with the Eagles if you hoot with the hoot owls. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:42 AM > Subject: Fw: [Renfrew] The Scottish in America. > > > | President MILLARD FILLIMORE's second wife was Caroline McIntosh, married > on > | feb. 10, 1858 and I am sorry but I cant seem to find where either George > | Washington or Thomas Jefferson are related to lana, would you please > | explain.as i am very interested and have a huge library of books. > | maggie > | mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Lana Renfro-Moye" <ylanamoye@earthlink.net> > | To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:41 AM > | Subject: [Renfrew] The Scottish in America. > | > | > | > I'm just catching up on email. > | > > | > My first thought was "did someone get up on the wrong side of the bed?" > | > > | > Or, maybe someone needed a nap. > | > > | > The Scottish people that came to the United States had it no easier than > | the > | > Scots that went to Australia. > | > > | > We came here to escape the conditions in Scotland. > | > > | > Some of our family members came here to save their lives. > | > > | > Many of us had prices on our head. > | > > | > Many were transported here by the English as troublemakers. > | > > | > I come from some of the first Scottish settlers in the United States. > My > | > Scot ancestors have been in the United States since the 1600's. > | > > | > We explored this country and spread civilization as we went. My family > | > explored along side Daniel Boone. One of his sons married into my > family. > | > I am a descendant of two American Presidents, George Washington, and > | Thomas > | > Jefferson. Our current Vice President is a cousin. > | > > | > Did you know that 75% of the signers of the American Declaration of > | > Independence, signed in 1776, were of Scottish descent. Most of our > | > American presidents are of Scottish descent. > | > > | > The Scottish blood that runs in most Americans, especially our first > | leaders > | > is part of what has made this a great people. > | > > | > We, are as proud of our Scottish blood as you are yours. We came to > this > | > country and we continued the fight with the English here. We won our > | > freedom from a tyrant that thought of us as savages. > | > > | > We celebrate our Scottish heritage with pride. > | > > | > The first Scots in the United States didn't have it any easier than did > | the > | > first to arrive in Australia. The US like your country, was large, > open, > | > but very wild. You need to read the history of the Scots that settled > in > | > the Carolinas. > | > > | > This country was no more developed than Australia was. Our Native > | Americans > | > weren't any happier to see foreigner there were yours. > | > > | > Many of our ancestors died from disease. > | > > | > Do you have any idea of how many men and women were shipped here as > | nothing > | > more than slaves by the English. > | > > | > They didn't come to our "Gold" mines. We didn't discover gold in the US > | > until well into the 1800s. The Scottish had been here for over 200 > years > | by > | > then. > | > > | > When we, Scotland, lost wars, the English would ship the prisoners of > war > | to > | > the American Colonies. The Scottish cut their way through the jungles > of > | > the south. They cleared the fields that made English Lords rich. > | > > | > The Scots as they worked off their indenture, or sentence; would move > | > further west into the United States, taking the offer of free land. > | > > | > Much as they did in Australia. > | > > | > Very few early Scots had it easy here in the US. > | > > | > Remember we, like you, started under the heel of the English. > | > > | > Many early Americans were here because they had been burned out of their > | > homes in Scotland. > | > > | > Their names had been taken away. > | > > | > Australia wasn't the only place the Scottish people went to start over. > | > > | > My Scottish ancestors fought as hard as yours did, to survive. > | > > | > Our pride in our Scottish heritage made us name many places in our > country > | > after places in Scotland. The same is true of Canada. > | > > | > Please study more about the people of Scotland and what they have done > | > around the world. > | > > | > Very proud to descend from Robert the Bruce. > | > > | > Ylana > | > Stoneyfields Ranch > | > > | > Remember what your elders used to say, "Birds of a feather flock > | together." > | > If you're an eagle, don't hang around chickens: Chickens Can't Fly! > | > You can't soar with the Eagles if you hoot with the hoot owls. > | > > | > > | > > | > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > | > ********************************************************************** > | > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > | > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > | > > | > > | > | > | > | ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > | ********************************************************************** > | The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > | http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > | > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? 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