Hi I am new to this list and looking for any information regading FREDERICK STOUT. I recently found that my ancestor FREDERICK STOUT married ELIZABETH BARBER in PORT GLASGOW on 16th May 1846. Not having any idea of the name of his parents I sent for a copy of the marriage certificate hoping that it would have some extra information enabling me to proceed my research. On receiving the certificate I was very disappointed to find that it was only one of several entries on a sheet giving only their names. This being my first taste of Scottish ancestory I am not familiar with the differences in procedures. How does one go about finding out names of parents, addresses living at, at the time of the marriage, name of the church etc? On the 1881 Census Frederick (known as Christian Frederick) 52 years was living with his Wife Elizabeth and family in Everton, Lancashire. Frederick's place of birth was stated as (British Subject), Germany, Elizabeth Stout (nee Barber) 52 years, place of birth just states Scotland. There are five other pairs of names on the sheet - would it be useful for these names to be posted on The List? Many thanks Freda Good Malvern, Worcs. Eng.

I would check the 1841, 51,61 & 71 Census, Port Glasgow, for both. One or more parents could turn up living with them. Yes, please post the other names on the sheet to the list. Linda Egan Flynn MCIVOR & HARKIN, Port Glasgow

Freda, I am not surprised to hear that you got only the names of the bride and groom in the OPR (Old Parish Register). That is usually all the Session Clerk included, unless you were "somebody". If one of the couple was from a different parish, that is usually included and the grooms occupation. It isn't until 1855 when Statutory Registration started that you will have the parents names, father's occupation and whether they are still living or not. I have noticed that as you get closer to 1855, some of the Session Clerks did start including more information. There are many Session Clerks that my cousins and I would like to travel back in time and have a talk with. When dealing with the OPR's, especially if you have a lot of family in one Parish, it is less expensive to rent the film at your local LDS Family History Center. As I have the 1851 Renfrewshire Census index, I could check for Frederick and Elizabeth for you. That would let you know if they had any children (if found in Renfrewshire) and there is always a small chance that parents could be living with them or other family members. With the index information, you could then order in the microfilm of the census and see if Frederick's birth place is still given as Germany and you would be more likely to get more than just Scotland for Elizabeth's birthplace. Rarely will you find more than Scotland listed as a birthplace for someone enumerated in the census in England and visa versa. Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA

Julie Could you please look for my MCIVOR, Daniel and Margaret. They were living in Port Glasgow in 1855, on Scotts Lane, and state on my gggrandmothers birth record that they were married there in 1850 but I cannot find their marriage record. There should also be other children that I've been unable to find. Thanks very much. Linda Egan Flynn Torrance CA <<<<As I have the 1851 Renfrewshire Census index, I could check for >> Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA>>>>>

Hi Daniel, aged 22, and Margaret, aged 20, are there at Port Glasow District 445 Book 6 Page 21 Lines 4 & 5 There are a few other McIvors but no sign of children yet If you want the other mail me Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Egan Flynn" <leflynn@pacbell.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1851 Renfrewshire Census Index > Julie > > Could you please look for my MCIVOR, Daniel and Margaret. > They were living in Port Glasgow in 1855, on Scotts Lane, and state on my > gggrandmothers birth record that they were married there in 1850 but I > cannot find their marriage record. There should also be other children that > I've been unable to find. > > Thanks very much. > Linda Egan Flynn > Torrance CA > > <<<<As I have the 1851 Renfrewshire Census index, I could check for >> > Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA>>>>> > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >