Hi Don I found it on the map .Google gives no reference to the earlier Barrhead Seminary,I will try Paisley library as well. cheers Bill ======================================== Message Received: Jul 20 2006, 06:56 PM From: "Don Muirhead" To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: RE: [Renfrew] placesHAWKHEAD Bill, Hardgate is on the map I sent you yesterday. It's in the north border just south of Millbank. For information on the Seminary try sending a note off to the Barrhead Library http://www.barrhead-scotland.com/Community/resource_centres/barrhead_library .asp Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA