Just to add to my previous email, my great grandfather David MASSON was coachman/chauffeur to the Coats family and met his wife Margaret McCOLL who was a ladies maid for the family also. Sandy (Wagga x 2) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mathieson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > Hi Wayne, > > From memory, the 2 firms amalgamated in the early 20th century, but a Google > search can probably turn up precise info. However, the names of the original > firms and their logos have been preserved for branding and trade mark > reasons ever since, so I doubt very much whether your threads are antiques. > Clark had an anchor as its logo, and its threads were made at Anchor Mills > in the centre of Paisley. Coats had their mill at Ferguslie, in Paisley's > west end, and their insignia was a looped chain. These logos were used > world-wide. Both mills are now gone, although some of the old buildings have > been converted for other uses. Indeed, Coats do not manufacture thread in > the UK at all now. It's all imported from Germany. > > Regards, > > Ken Mathieson > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne R Abel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > > > > And I bet we have all gone diving for our sewing boxes,!! I did, straight > > into the model 66 Singer sewing machine(treadle), still in working order > > with all attachments,and found one reel of Clark & Co and two of J &P > Coats > > Ltd. So I take it from these, that this would have been before the > > amalgamation???Interesting. > > Wayne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roxanne Neel" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > > > > > > > Ken ~ Oh my goodness, I still have spools of Coats & Clarks thread from > > > years ago when I used to sew! I assumed it was made in America... > > > Thank you for the information! > > > Roxanne Neel > > > Cedarpines Park, California, USA > > > > > > > > > Ken Mathieson wrote: > > > > > >>Hi Heather, > > >> > > >>The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was once > > >>the > > >>World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There were 2 > > >>huge > > >>family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged as > > >>United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is now > > >>part > > >>of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, lots > of > > >>countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster > local > > >>industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set up a > > >>mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I worked > for > > >>Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as > well > > >>as > > >>in countless other places around the world. Some googling should yield > > >>further info. > > >> > > >>I hope this helps, > > >> > > >>Ken Mathieson, > > >>Uddingston SCT > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <[email protected]> > > >>To: <[email protected]> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM > > >>Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and > > >>> > > >>see if you can find the families of: > > >> > > >>> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) > > >>> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). > > >>> > > >>> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. > > >>> > > >>> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in > > >>> > > >>Guadalajara of all places! > > >> > > >>> Thanks! > > >>> > > >>> Heather Hess nee Wilson > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Cualli Tonalli! > > >>>Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. > > >>> > > >>>http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php > > >>>http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ > > >>> > > >>>"I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my > > >>>life." - > > >>> > > >>Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 > > >> > > >>>--------------------------------- > > >>>Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >