Brilliant Jack! It is them. They do not however appear on SP; normal, wildcard or any other type of search! I believe that there are some poorly scanned images of the 1851 that SP has not released, so may be this is one of them? May I ask you how and where you found them? My certainty is simple. All the ages are correct, although David is a new addition! Also, another Greenock branch of the family named a child Thomas Murray FERGUSON in 1846; until now, I never knew the source of this name. Thomas married Jean in Greenock in January 1843; Jean used her maiden name of 'RUSSELL' rather than her married name. As yet, I cannot find David's birth. I'm also curious why he is enumerated as FERGUSON in 1851, when he was clearly born at around the same time as his mother's marriage to Thomas MURRAY. If his father wasn't a FERGUSON as seems likely, then the convention was to take the name of the mother's new spouse, even if he wasn't the father. Again Jack....Thank you. Angus > From: Jack Mills <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 06:35:15 +0100 > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Lost Greenock FERGUSON family? > Resent-From: <[email protected]> > Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:35:15 -0600 > > Hi Angus, > > Maybe have a look at these names on ScotlandsPeople? > Could mother have Jean re-married? > -- > 1851 census 564-1 (434) Ed 13 p 3 (Greenock East) > Thomas MURRAY 39 > Jean MURRAY 37 > Jean FERGUSON 17 > John FERGUSON 15 > Archibald FERGUSON 13 > David FERGUSON 8 > -- > This is the Scottish FreeCEN Status Page > http://www.freewebs.com/mmjeffery/index.htm > Greenock 1851 isn't yet uploaded. > > Jack > ============================ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Angus Ferguson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:58 PM > Subject: [Renfrew] Lost Greenock FERGUSON family? > > > Hi everyone, > > Either I'm going mad or my research skills are waning, but I cannot for the > life of me find, in any post 1841 UK census, certain members of a key branch > of my family. Yet they keep popping up in marriages and recorded as alive in > such records. I've tried Soundex and wildcard searches; looked for > remarriages and deaths as well as wider geographical searches, but to no > avail. If sks could either confirm my madness or employ their greater > research skills, then I would be very grateful. If they are not to be found, > then of course I can consider them either abducted by aliens, or more > probably emigrated. > > In the 1841 census they are enumerated at 1 St.John Street, Greenock. Also > present is John Ferguson, the brother of Archibald Ferguson, the recently > deceased head of the household. I cannot find any of them in the 1851census. > > The remaining family are: > > Jean FERGUSON, nee RUSSEL(L); b. 4th July 1814, Greeenock. Last recorded as > alive, but probably not present at her son Archibald's marriage to Mary > YOUNG in St. Quivox, Ayrshire in December 1863. > > Jean FERGUSON; b. 13th May 1834, Greenock, daughter of the above Jean. > Cannot find her in 1851 census, but after this I know exactly where she was > as she married her first cousin John, in September 1855 and died in Feb 1870 > in Greenock. > > Archibald FERGUSON; b. 9th September 1837, Greenock. Cannot find him 1851 > census. 1861 census living in Southampton, England with fellow seamen. > Married Mary Young in St. Quivox, Ayrshire, December 1863. Possibly in > Liverpool, England for birth of twins Susanna and Janet in March 1866. > Nothing after this. > > John Ferguson; 1841 census - recorded as born in Ireland in about 1836. > Nothing after the 1841 record. > > I would love to find the family in 1851 when they are still likely to be > together. Equally, any reference to the mother Jean after 1841; Archibald > after his marriage in 1863 and just about anything on the probably adopted > John. > > TIA > Angus Ferguson. Newcastle upon Tyne, UK. >