Hi Johan, This is just a guesstimation on Paris Place, Barrhead. It was in West Arthurlie according to the 1881 LDS census CD. If you go to > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ < and do a Co-ordinate search with these numbers 249436,658399 Paris Place was near where it says West Arthurlie in the centre of the map. My best guess is in the area where the west end of Kelburn St meets with Lochlibo Rd & Neilston Rd. It certainly wasn't far from West Arthurlie Cottage, and came before this cottage on the enumerator's route for 1881. But possibly ask Barrhead Library? They may know of it's exact location. http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/your_local_library_page/barrhead_library_page.htm -- Jack ====================== ----- Original Message ----- From: J LOCHRIDGE To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Paris Place Barrhead I wonder if anyone knows where Paris Place in Barrhead is/was? I don't see it in current street map, but it was the address of an ancestor Matthew Purdon Carswell when he married in 1902. Johan Lochridge

Thank you very much Jack. I know that area well, and Paris Place is definitely gone now, but interestingly there is a Gertrude Place close by, and of course Kelburn Street which I think has a connection to one of the Earls of Glasgow. I wonder if there is a connection. I am sure a local historian could put me right. Thanks again Johan Lochridge ----- Original Message ---- From: Jack Mills <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 7 July, 2006 4:18:42 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Paris Place Barrhead Hi Johan, This is just a guesstimation on Paris Place, Barrhead. It was in West Arthurlie according to the 1881 LDS census CD. If you go to > http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ < and do a Co-ordinate search with these numbers 249436,658399

Johan - the Earl of Glasgow owned a lot of land in the Barrhead area. My Dunlops were tenants of his at Dovecothall Mill in the 1700s. Jeanette. Kelburn Street which I think has a connection to one of the Earls of Glasgow. I wonder if there is a connection. I am sure a local historian could put me right. > Thanks again > Johan Lochridge > >

I had a family of BRODIE ancestors living in Renfrew, Scotland, UK, as follows: *1841 CENSUS, *St. James Street, Paisley * *JAMES BRODIE*, age 40-44, born Renfrewshire, Scotland, silk handloom weaver. * JANET BRODIE, age 40-44, born Renfrewshire, Scotland, abt 1801. * JOHN BRODIE, age 15-19, born Renfrewshire, Scotland (1826-1830), pattern drawer. * JANE BRODIE, age 15-19, born Renfrewshire, Scotland (1826-1830). * JAMES BRODIE, age 13, born Renfrewshire, Scotland (1828), silk winder. * JANET BRODIE, age 10, born Renfrewshire, Scotland (1831), silk handloom weaver. * MARY BRODIE, age 8, born Renfrewshire, Scotland, abt 1833. * AGNES BRODIE, age 4, born Renfrewshire, Scotland, abt 1837. Ten years later they are living in Norfolk, England, UK: *1851 CENSUS*, Magdalen Street, Norwich (St.Saviour). * *JAMES BRODIE*, householder, married, age 51, born Scotland, foreman over pattern weavers (Silk). * JANET BRODIE, wife,married, age 50, born Scotland. * JOHN BRODIE, son, unmarried, age 28, born Scotland, pattern drawer (silk). * MARY BRODIE, daughter, unmarried, age 18, born Scotland, silk weaver. * AGNES BRODIE, daughter, unmarried, age 15, born Scotland, silk weaver. * ROBERT BRODIE, son, age 10 born Scotland, scholar. The daughter JANET is married to JONATHAN DAWSON, butcher and living nearby (she is my great-great-grandmother). There are various family myths about how they came to move south, includng the obvious one that both Paisley and Norwich were renowned for silk weaving. However, a more interesting myth is that somehow they got involved in droving cattle from Scotland to Norfolk and that Jonathan (the butcher) and Janet met up because of that. They married in 1849 in a rural district east of Norwich, where the DAWSON's were rumoured to own or rent cattle fattening pasture. I wonder if anyone on this List can shed any further light on the history surrounding this, or if there are any BRODIE researchers with a common interest?