G'day Darlene, Small World Thanks for your offer of help, I have answered off list, so that I can send you an Attachment of my Muir's. Cheers Ron in Oz ("I use Archive CD Books to help with my research http://www.archivecdbooks.org"). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Carlisle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:31 PM Subject: RE: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > > Hello my old friend Ron - fancy meeting you here - I have an extensive > range of Muir's if and when you need them - but I do not have a Richard - > sorry. Let me know what other Muir names you are looking for and I may be > able to help > > Kindest regards as always > Darlene > > Always searching for > EDGELL-PADFIELD-BERRYMAN-ELLERY-ASHMAN-ROBBINS-WILLIAMS-BURRATON in > Somerset > PATTERSON-BUIST-CLARK-MUIR-SHANKS-GAULD-MORTON-BEEDIE- > DUMIGAN-MOWATT-BRUCE-McCHRISTIE in Scotland-STEPHENS in USA-BLIGHT in > Cornwall-MARTIN in Denmark-FOLEY & BECKETT in London - > KANE-McELVOGUE-FORREST in Ireland-CARLISLE-ELLIOT-KNOWLES in Notts > > > > > >>From: "Ron Hawthorne" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr >>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:28:42 +1000 >> >>G'day All, >> >>Prompted by Michele, I was also hoping that SKS could help me to extend my >>Ancestors back a little. Brick Walls are below : >> >>Richard MUIR, married Ann WORKMAN 11 Jan 1721, Port Glasgow >> >>William JAMISON married Marion KNOX 06 Aug 1726, Paisley >> >>John STEWART married Margaret BRYSON 08 Jun 1694, Paisley >> >>And the blight of my life, The HAWTHORN's, who have given me more problems >>than any other branch. >> >>Daniel HAWTHORN married Florie TAYLOR c.1791 >> >>Cheers >> >>Ron in Oz >> >>("I use Archive CD Books to help with my research >>http://www.archivecdbooks.org"). >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Shell Leo" >>Subject: [Renfrew] new to the list >> >> >>hi my name is michele and im new to the list thought i >>would say hello and state who i am searching >>im am looking into the the Orr Pattison and McAlpine >>and McKeesock families thanks Michele >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for local singles online @ Lavalife > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D23060&_t=751140432&_r=endtext_july&_m=EXT > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 >

Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and see if you can find the families of: Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in Guadalajara of all places! Thanks! Heather Hess nee Wilson Cualli Tonalli! Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ "I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my life." - Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.

Hi Heather, The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was once the World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There were 2 huge family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged as United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is now part of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, lots of countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster local industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set up a mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I worked for Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as well as in countless other places around the world. Some googling should yield further info. I hope this helps, Ken Mathieson, Uddingston SCT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and see if you can find the families of: > > Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) > Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). > > They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. > > I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in Guadalajara of all places! > > Thanks! > > Heather Hess nee Wilson > > > > Cualli Tonalli! > Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. > > http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php > http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ > > "I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my life." - Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. > >

G'day All, Have I missed something............?????????????????? I am also researching MUIR, JAMISON, & ORR Cheers Ron in Oz ("I use Archive CD Books to help with my research http://www.archivecdbooks.org"). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mathieson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > Hi Heather, > > The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was once > the > World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There were 2 > huge > family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged as > United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is now > part > of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, lots of > countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster local > industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set up a > mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I worked for > Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as well > as > in countless other places around the world. Some googling should yield > further info. > > I hope this helps, > > Ken Mathieson, > Uddingston SCT > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > > >> Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and > see if you can find the families of: >> >> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) >> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). >> >> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. >> >> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in > Guadalajara of all places! >> >> Thanks! >> >> Heather Hess nee Wilson >> >> >> >> Cualli Tonalli! >> Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. >> >> http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php >> http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ >> >> "I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my >> life." - > Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 7/17/2006 > >

Ken ~ Oh my goodness, I still have spools of Coats & Clarks thread from years ago when I used to sew! I assumed it was made in America... Thank you for the information! Roxanne Neel Cedarpines Park, California, USA Ken Mathieson wrote: >Hi Heather, > >The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was once the >World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There were 2 huge >family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged as >United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is now part >of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, lots of >countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster local >industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set up a >mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I worked for >Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as well as >in countless other places around the world. Some googling should yield >further info. > >I hope this helps, > >Ken Mathieson, >Uddingston SCT > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM >Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr > > > > >>Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and >> >> >see if you can find the families of: > > >> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) >> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). >> >> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. >> >> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in >> >> >Guadalajara of all places! > > >> Thanks! >> >> Heather Hess nee Wilson >> >> >> >>Cualli Tonalli! >>Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. >> >>http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php >>http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ >> >>"I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my life." - >> >> >Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 > > >>--------------------------------- >>Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >

Another place Coats set up factories was St. Petersberg in Russia. My husband's adopted great aunt was sent there by the firm to teach the Russian girls in the cotton mill in the latter part of the 19th Century. She then became a governess in the family of the Grand Duke of Mecklenberg Strelitz where she remained until her death in 1908, she was buried in the family cemetery there. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roxanne Neel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > Ken ~ Oh my goodness, I still have spools of Coats & Clarks thread from > years ago when I used to sew! I assumed it was made in America... > Thank you for the information! > Roxanne Neel > Cedarpines Park, California, USA > > > Ken Mathieson wrote: > >>Hi Heather, >> >>The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was once >>the >>World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There were 2 >>huge >>family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged as >>United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is now >>part >>of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, lots of >>countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster local >>industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set up a >>mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I worked for >>Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as well >>as >>in countless other places around the world. Some googling should yield >>further info. >> >>I hope this helps, >> >>Ken Mathieson, >>Uddingston SCT >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM >>Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr >> >> >> >>>Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) and >>> >>see if you can find the families of: >> >>> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) >>> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). >>> >>> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. >>> >>> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up in >>> >>Guadalajara of all places! >> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Heather Hess nee Wilson >>> >>> >>> >>>Cualli Tonalli! >>>Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. >>> >>>http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php >>>http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ >>> >>>"I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my >>>life." - >>> >>Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 >> >>>--------------------------------- >>>Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >