Hi Jenelle Please copy me in too. I would love to know why these records are sealed. Many thanks Eileen -----Original Message----- From: Jenelle McCarrick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 May 2006 06:50 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's Michael and Kristina, looking now, its on my sofa bed in an organised mess. Can email me off list at [email protected] Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael paton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > Janelle > YES! Please dig. I would truely like to know and understand what and > why. Thankyou for the offer Michael > > > On 5/8/06, Jenelle McCarrick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have an interesting article I photocopied from a family history magazine > > re the LDS "Sealings" I would have to dig for it. Might explain > > (like > > mine) > > "missing relatives and why they were sealed. > > Jenelle. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "michael paton" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > > > > > > > Janet > > > My pet peeves with them have been the occasional film that > > > they list > > as > > > having, but they won't send it to the churchs. You must plan a > > > trip to > > Utah > > > to see them. They must have many members on the tourist commision. Also > > I > > > keep bumping into a researcher who has been there ahead of me (by > > > 30 or > > 40 > > > years) and somehow locked the records of his search so I can't see what > > he > > > found or why he was looking there But many members of my family > > > have > > been > > > sealed? I guess attitudes have changed since the internet but it > > > is a > > shame > > > that a researcher goes to all that trouble to have the information > > locked > > > away from future generations. My information gets sent to the > > > cousins so > > all > > > have a copy and if my computer crashes the data can be easily > > > rebuilt because I sent them copies of each document. > > > Even with running into these problems I was able to blunder my > > > way > > into > > a > > > great deal of information on the IGI and check it often for things > > > I may > > > have missed. I usually get a hard copy of everything, since that > > > was the > > > only way I was able to prove what I saw in the 1990s before > > GGGrandfather > > > disappeared from the IGI. It also helped me find him later on > > > Scotlandspeople. Michael > > > > > > > > > On 5/7/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Michael, > > > > I found my grandfather on the IGI fische in the 1980's at a > > > > Mormon > > library > > > > near where I lived then. I found him again on the internet igi, then > > he > > > > disappeared. His record both times was taken from a film of the > > church > > > > records taken > > > > by the LDS. Fortunately I wrote to Scotland years ago for his > > > > birth record after I found it on the OPR, but I wonder how many > > > > other people are missing a > > > > relative or ancestor because of the missing OPR records. Seems such a > > > > shame > > > > when the LDS does so much good in helping people find records > > > > and as > > you > > > > said, > > > > the IGI is still the best place to start looking. > > > > > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Eileen, I put an example on the list yesterday. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Waddell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: RE: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > Hi Jenelle > Please copy me in too. I would love to know why these records are sealed. > Many thanks > Eileen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jenelle McCarrick [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 08 May 2006 06:50 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > > > Michael and Kristina, looking now, its on my sofa bed in an organised mess. > Can email me off list at [email protected] Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael paton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > > > > Janelle > > YES! Please dig. I would truely like to know and understand what and > > why. Thankyou for the offer Michael > > > > > > On 5/8/06, Jenelle McCarrick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I have an interesting article I photocopied from a family history > magazine > > > re the LDS "Sealings" I would have to dig for it. Might explain > > > (like > > > mine) > > > "missing relatives and why they were sealed. > > > Jenelle. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "michael paton" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] missing OPR's > > > > > > > > > > Janet > > > > My pet peeves with them have been the occasional film that > > > > they > list > > > as > > > > having, but they won't send it to the churchs. You must plan a > > > > trip to > > > Utah > > > > to see them. They must have many members on the tourist commision. > Also > > > I > > > > keep bumping into a researcher who has been there ahead of me (by > > > > 30 > or > > > 40 > > > > years) and somehow locked the records of his search so I can't see > what > > > he > > > > found or why he was looking there But many members of my family > > > > have > > > been > > > > sealed? I guess attitudes have changed since the internet but it > > > > is a > > > shame > > > > that a researcher goes to all that trouble to have the information > > > locked > > > > away from future generations. My information gets sent to the > > > > cousins > so > > > all > > > > have a copy and if my computer crashes the data can be easily > > > > rebuilt because I sent them copies of each document. > > > > Even with running into these problems I was able to blunder my > > > > way > > > into > > > a > > > > great deal of information on the IGI and check it often for things > > > > I > may > > > > have missed. I usually get a hard copy of everything, since that > > > > was > the > > > > only way I was able to prove what I saw in the 1990s before > > > GGGrandfather > > > > disappeared from the IGI. It also helped me find him later on > > > > Scotlandspeople. Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/7/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > I found my grandfather on the IGI fische in the 1980's at a > > > > > Mormon > > > library > > > > > near where I lived then. I found him again on the internet igi, > then > > > he > > > > > disappeared. His record both times was taken from a film of the > > > church > > > > > records taken > > > > > by the LDS. Fortunately I wrote to Scotland years ago for his > > > > > birth record after I found it on the OPR, but I wonder how many > > > > > other people are missing a > > > > > relative or ancestor because of the missing OPR records. Seems such > a > > > > > shame > > > > > when the LDS does so much good in helping people find records > > > > > and as > > > you > > > > > said, > > > > > the IGI is still the best place to start looking. > > > > > > > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >