Katie, My understanding is that all Winnings in the greater Glasgow area were members of the one extended family. My own 4x great grandmother was Elizabeth Winning and her husband was another coalminer. The Winning family in fact owned coal mines in the Shettleston/Parkhead area of Glasgow, an area in which they had been landowners since the reign of Mary Queen of Scots. A distant cousin of mine has done a one-name study on Winnings and she has compiled a family tree including literally hundreds of us all descended from the same Thomas Winning and Agnes Lintoune married in the early 1600s in Glasgow. One branch of the family even went to Russia where they had mines and became members of the Russian Aristocracy as Von Winnings. Mark John M Sutherland-Fisher Managing Director, Fisher (Holiday Enterprises) Ltd North Cadboll House, North Cadboll, Fearn by Tain, Ross-shire, Scotland. IV20 1TN Tel and Fax: 0044 (0) 1862 871877 Mobile: 0044 (0) 7765 272815 Email: info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Katie de Haan Sent: 07 December 2008 08:17 To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com; katjw@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Quirky coincidence - WINNING Katrina, >From the 1871 census index, both WINNING families seem to have been living in Lanarkshire then, and both fathers, Robert and Thomas WINNING, were coal miners. Their marriage records might tell you more about whether they may be cousins or even brothers. I can see a marriage for one set of parents: Robert WINNING and Janet THOMPSON in Cambusnethan, but haven't seen one indexed for Thomas WINNING and Annie/y SNEDDON yet. I think you said you had information on your Annie's birth; the record should say where and when her parents were married which would help to point you in the direction of finding out how and whether Thomas and Robert closely related. If you so wish, of course... I have to remind myself that not everyone is as quite as besotted as I am. Will now get off your case ;-) Katie PS My previous message, the one below, does not seem to have come through yet: Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Quirky coincidence - WINNING> > Two more points, Katrina, > 1) The young lady who married Hugh HAMILTON in 1899 appears to have the same > parents as Annie who married William BAXTER in 1901, i.e. Thomas WINNING & > Annie SNEDDON. > 2) I don''t know about the odds on two Annie WINNINGs, but I certainly had > > trouble with my great grandmother Mary McVean and her cousin by the same > name, two years younger and born next door in Argyll and migrating to > > Renfrew and Lanark which, after all, are pretty close.> Enjoy the trail, > Katie de Haan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55