Hi, we're no longer at that email address, what would you like to know. Sandy (now Tassie) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Eschner" <beschner@columbus.rr.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > my grandmom also worked in Coats mill in paisley ! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alistair Stevenson" <alijohn@optusnet.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > > >> My mother worked as young girl at the Coats mill in Paisley and we're now >> living in Australia. Sandy (Wagga x 2) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Mathieson" <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >> >> >>> Hi Nuala, >>> >>> You're spot on there about St Petersburg. Coats had the biggest thread >> mill >>> in the world there from the late 19th century up till the time of the >>> Russian Revolution, when it was nationalised without compensation. I >> vaguely >>> remember a complicated story about all the title deeds, trade marks etc >>> being spirited out of Russia by the Scottish managers in order to prove >>> ownership in the event of the Revolution failing. Ironically, after >>> Perestroika, the Russians asked Coats to provide technical expertise in >>> modernising their thread industry, and (again vaguely remembered) I >>> think >>> some sort of a joint venture or partnership was formed, so Coats got >>> back >>> into the Russian market after all those years. >>> >>> In the late 1920s or early 30s, Coats also bought a German thread group, >> Mez >>> AG of Freiburg im Breisgau, and with it came subsidiaries in Austria, >>> Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia and Romania, to add to their >>> existing operations in other European, Asian, North and South American >>> countries, so by the late 1930s they were truly a global group, and a >>> very >>> successful one at that. When they set up a new factory it was common >>> practice to send a team of experts in every aspect of thread >> manufacturing, >>> marketing, administration etc to set up the operation train local staff, >> and >>> run the company. As a result, Paisley families dispersed all across the >>> globe, so don't be surprised at Scottish connections in the unlikeliest >>> places. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ken Mathieson >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nuala Cockburn" <nualacockburn@blueyonder.co.uk> >>> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >>> >>> >>> > Another place Coats set up factories was St. Petersberg in Russia. My >>> > husband's adopted great aunt was sent there by the firm to teach the >>> Russian >>> > girls in the cotton mill in the latter part of the 19th Century. She >> then >>> > became a governess in the family of the Grand Duke of Mecklenberg >> Strelitz >>> > where she remained until her death in 1908, she was buried in the >>> > family >>> > cemetery there. >>> > >>> > Nuala >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Roxanne Neel" <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> >>> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:15 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >>> > >>> > >>> > > Ken ~ Oh my goodness, I still have spools of Coats & Clarks thread >> from >>> > > years ago when I used to sew! I assumed it was made in America... >>> > > Thank you for the information! >>> > > Roxanne Neel >>> > > Cedarpines Park, California, USA >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Ken Mathieson wrote: >>> > > >>> > >>Hi Heather, >>> > >> >>> > >>The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was >> once >>> > >>the >>> > >>World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There >>> > >>were >> 2 >>> > >>huge >>> > >>family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged >> as >>> > >>United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is >>> > >>now >>> > >>part >>> > >>of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, >> lots >>> of >>> > >>countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster >>> local >>> > >>industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set >>> > >>up >> a >>> > >>mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I >>> > >>worked >>> for >>> > >>Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as >>> well >>> > >>as >>> > >>in countless other places around the world. Some googling should >>> > >>yield >>> > >>further info. >>> > >> >>> > >>I hope this helps, >>> > >> >>> > >>Ken Mathieson, >>> > >>Uddingston SCT >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>----- Original Message ----- >>> > >>From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <ehecatl2012@yahoo.com> >>> > >>To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM >>> > >>Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>>Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) >> and >>> > >>> >>> > >>see if you can find the families of: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) >>> > >>> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). >>> > >>> >>> > >>> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up >> in >>> > >>> >>> > >>Guadalajara of all places! >>> > >> >>> > >>> Thanks! >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Heather Hess nee Wilson >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>Cualli Tonalli! >>> > >>>Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. >>> > >>> >>> > >>>http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php >>> > >>>http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ >>> > >>> >>> > >>>"I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my >>> > >>>life." - >>> > >>> >>> > >>Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 >>> > >> >>> > >>>--------------------------------- >>> > >>>Yahoo! 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