Hello everyone, I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. Haven't been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova Scotia when he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly more about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. Regards, Marie Spears In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: michael paton To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, But I believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been stationed around there. Michael On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > Michael, > > Sorry those names do not ring any bells. > > My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth of > my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His father > was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the Church > Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( > > Colin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Collin > I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. > I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE > PATON > and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to know > if > George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that far > back. > Michael Paton > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au > >wrote: > > > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my own > > question. > > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number of > > where she lived. > > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h 15m > > that I realised. > > > > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) > > > > Colin. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colin Liddell > > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM > > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > > > > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an > > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's People. > > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the column > > "Where and When Died" is the following. > > 1880 > > February > > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. > > 8h PM > > 5 > > > > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I guess > > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. > > The death above hers has, > > 2h PM > > 1 > > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about > > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. > > > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marie An interesting coincidence found on the Scotlands People site: Alexander Spears bap. 20 Dec 1789, Cupar, Fife, Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Steuart. Margaret Spears bap 19 Nov 1786, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Andrew Spears bap 09 Jul 1783, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Martha Spears bap 05 Nov 1780, Ceres, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. (Martha's actual register entry was the only one giving her Father's occupation - shoemaker, of Craigrothie.) The way "Steuart" was written could be miss-read or transcribed as "Sweet". You mentioned that your Alexander was born in Greenock. Doesn't mean he was necessarily baptised there. For example his Mother may have returned to her family in Greenock for the birth, not uncommon at the time, especially if she had older children, then returned to her marital home for the baptism. My own gg-grandfather stated he was born in Greenock. His parents definitely married there but they moved to England. There are no baptism records for any children in Greenock. The Father was a ship master and away at sea for months at a time so not surprising that a younger son was born back in Greenock where his Mother's family lived. The above entries may be a "red herring"!! But worth noting. I never ignore coincidences, they just might be the people I'm looking for. Good Hunting Rod McPherson Victoria Australia -------------------------------------------------- From: <S18309@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:19 AM To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > Hello everyone, > > I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - > Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. > Haven't > been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert > Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova > Scotia when > he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the > present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly > more > about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Marie Spears > > > In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: > > Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which > should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, > But > I > believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been > stationed > around there. > Michael > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell > <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Sorry those names do not ring any bells. >> >> My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth > of >> my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His > father >> was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the > Church >> Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( >> >> Colin. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: michael paton >> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> >> >> Collin >> I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. >> I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE >> PATON >> and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to > know >> if >> George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that > far >> back. >> Michael Paton >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au >> >wrote: >> >> > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my >> own >> > question. >> > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number > of >> > where she lived. >> > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h > 15m >> > that I realised. >> > >> > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) >> > >> > Colin. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Colin Liddell >> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM >> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> > >> > >> > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an >> > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's >> People. >> > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the >> column >> > "Where and When Died" is the following. >> > 1880 >> > February >> > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. >> > 8h PM >> > 5 >> > >> > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I >> guess >> > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. >> > The death above hers has, >> > 2h PM >> > 1 >> > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about >> > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. >> > >> > Colin >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Folks, It would have been a good idea to have started another thread instead of tacking this on to mine as the Subject Line of my post has nothing to do with your query. The problem comes further down the track if someone tries to find your post in the archives. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick McPherson To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details Hi Marie An interesting coincidence found on the Scotlands People site: Alexander Spears bap. 20 Dec 1789, Cupar, Fife, Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Steuart. Margaret Spears bap 19 Nov 1786, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Andrew Spears bap 09 Jul 1783, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Martha Spears bap 05 Nov 1780, Ceres, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. (Martha's actual register entry was the only one giving her Father's occupation - shoemaker, of Craigrothie.) The way "Steuart" was written could be miss-read or transcribed as "Sweet". You mentioned that your Alexander was born in Greenock. Doesn't mean he was necessarily baptised there. For example his Mother may have returned to her family in Greenock for the birth, not uncommon at the time, especially if she had older children, then returned to her marital home for the baptism. My own gg-grandfather stated he was born in Greenock. His parents definitely married there but they moved to England. There are no baptism records for any children in Greenock. The Father was a ship master and away at sea for months at a time so not surprising that a younger son was born back in Greenock where his Mother's family lived. The above entries may be a "red herring"!! But worth noting. I never ignore coincidences, they just might be the people I'm looking for. Good Hunting Rod McPherson Victoria Australia -------------------------------------------------- From: <S18309@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:19 AM To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > Hello everyone, > > I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - > Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. > Haven't > been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert > Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova > Scotia when > he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the > present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly > more > about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Marie Spears > > > In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: > > Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which > should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, > But > I > believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been > stationed > around there. > Michael > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell > <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Sorry those names do not ring any bells. >> >> My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth > of >> my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His > father >> was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the > Church >> Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( >> >> Colin. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: michael paton >> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> >> >> Collin >> I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. >> I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE >> PATON >> and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to > know >> if >> George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that > far >> back. >> Michael Paton >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au >> >wrote: >> >> > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my >> own >> > question. >> > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number > of >> > where she lived. >> > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h > 15m >> > that I realised. >> > >> > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) >> > >> > Colin. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Colin Liddell >> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM >> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> > >> > >> > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an >> > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's >> People. >> > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the >> column >> > "Where and When Died" is the following. >> > 1880 >> > February >> > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. >> > 8h PM >> > 5 >> > >> > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I >> guess >> > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. >> > The death above hers has, >> > 2h PM >> > 1 >> > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about >> > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. >> > >> > Colin >> > >>

Hi Marie Forgot to mention, the four children were baptised in the Church of Scotland. Regards Rod McPherson -------------------------------------------------- From: <S18309@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:19 AM To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > Hello everyone, > > I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - > Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. > Haven't > been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert > Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova > Scotia when > he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the > present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly > more > about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Marie Spears > > > In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: > > Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which > should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, > But > I > believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been > stationed > around there. > Michael > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell > <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Sorry those names do not ring any bells. >> >> My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth > of >> my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His > father >> was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the > Church >> Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( >> >> Colin. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: michael paton >> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> >> >> Collin >> I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. >> I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE >> PATON >> and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to > know >> if >> George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that > far >> back. >> Michael Paton >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au >> >wrote: >> >> > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my >> own >> > question. >> > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number > of >> > where she lived. >> > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h > 15m >> > that I realised. >> > >> > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) >> > >> > Colin. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Colin Liddell >> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM >> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> > >> > >> > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an >> > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's >> People. >> > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the >> column >> > "Where and When Died" is the following. >> > 1880 >> > February >> > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. >> > 8h PM >> > 5 >> > >> > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I >> guess >> > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. >> > The death above hers has, >> > 2h PM >> > 1 >> > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about >> > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. >> > >> > Colin >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >