Cheers Mark You've done something I've thought of doing but never got round to.  The problem is once one is au-fait with it you forget that others are just starting out and could do with advice on how to use SP without using up their precious credits unnecessarily. BY THE WAY a little known and little advertised fact is that if you live in Scotland you can get SP Vouchers at a discount through your local library. Have look at this URL - http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.uk/heritage/heritage_family_history/voucher_scheme.htm - it is for East Renfrew-shire but, I am informed, applies equally to other local authorities. Regards Les