Glenda I have a James LANG md Grace JOHNSTON in 1812 and produced the following chldren: Mary born or christened Jan 1813; Elizabeth b/ch May 1815; John b/ch Aug 1817; Grace b/ch Feb 1826 and Elizabeth again b/ch 1831. They were listed at either Abbey Parish or Johnstone. James LANG appears to have connections also to the LYLE family as he in herited from the estate of Robert LYLE, Manchester Plantation, Jamaica. and I suspect he was a nephew. James was resident in Church Street, Johnstone at time of his death. James LANG died in 1841 (not 1814 as previously typed). I have not been able to go back to his parents but it is possible that his father may have been named John (and mother possibly Elizabeth) and that your John and my John above are cousins. The parents of James' wife, Grace, are Archibald and Mary so it stands to reason that the son John could be named after James' father. If you have further information please email direct off-list to my address margsil@bigpond.net.au Thanks Margaret Silvester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 160 > Could be a connection I have a John LANG M Jean HANNAH both from Johnstone > had a son William born 1814 who married my connection what do you think?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > sct-renfrew-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 10 September 2008 7:02 p.m. > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 160 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: checking (Margaret Silvester) > 2. Re: checking (John Carswell) > 3. Re: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 > (Glenda Kyle and Dave Brook) > 4. Re: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 (Our Trees) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:03:40 +1000 > From: "Margaret Silvester" <margsil@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] checking > To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002d01c91252$927c55d0$0300000a@LAPTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Glenda, > > Can you tell me what LANGs you have in your tree. > > I have a Grace LANG d 1919 at 8 Northfield St., Ayr. Her parents James > LANG > d 1814 (Johnstone) and Grace JOHNSTON d 1877 (Paisley). Her siblings > Mary, > John and two named Elizabeth. Any connections here? > > Margaret Silvester > Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI, I noticed that Margaret Silvester and a John had the name "Carswell" in common. I have a Walter Carswell Taylor b. in 1811 who married a Catherine Mathie. I'm wondering if either of you have this name in your files. It's a long shot but I'd guess that there must have been a Carswell in the family farther back....or maybe they just had friends with that last name and chose it for Walter's middle name. Ruth in Florida

Hi Michael >From the CWGC (which I am sure you have details from) I can see five possibles of the eight listed NESS, WILLIAM Corporal 2095 15/11/1916 Unknown Seaforth Highlanders United Kingdom Pier and Face 15 C. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL William on medal card recd MM KIA Name: NESS, WILLIAM Initials: W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders Unit Text: 6th Bn. Date of Death: 15/11/1916 Service No: 2095 Awards: M M Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 C. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL NESS, WILLIAM Private 5306 05/08/1917 Unknown Scots Guards United Kingdom V. A. 22. CEMENT HOUSE CEMETERY KIA on medal card NESS, W Private 46662 28/03/1918 Unknown Royal Scots United Kingdom II. A. 2. SENLIS COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION William on medal card NESS, WILLIAM Driver 831775 14/04/1918 Unknown Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom Panel 4 to 6 and 162. TYNE COT MEMORIAL Name: NESS, WILLIAM Initials: W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Driver Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery Unit Text: "A" Bty. 87th Bde. Date of Death: 14/04/1918 Service No: 831775 Awards: M M Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 4 to 6 and 162. Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL NESS, WILLIAM Private 278475 29/07/1918 Unknown Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders United Kingdom SOISSONS MEMORIAL I have included a little more detail on the first & fourth as they gained the MM (Military Medal) which may help narrow it down Soldiers that Died have eight listed, six have birth places (none Port Glasgow or Renfrewshire) and two no birth place in the index, it would be worth trying to get the details from the eight which may give some information to narrow down your search Was there a long term association with Port Glasgow? from what I can see so far he is not mentioned on the War Memorial there (although there may be more than one) if he lived elsewhere before joining up he may have a mention on a memorial there I doubt you have them but are there any medals anywhere in the family, they would have his service number and Regt on them, the next of kin would also have been sent a bronze memorial plaque, with a scroll and a letter from the King , the scroll should also note the Regt he was in As to service records which I see others have mentioned On Ancestry there are the majority of the Medal Cards, they also have the so called Pension Records series, sadly as your man was KIA he would not be listed there They are also putting the burnt records online but are so far only up to H surnames, hence he will not be listed as yet (if his survived) The burnt records are so called as they are what remains of the service records that were partly destroyed and fire/water damaged in WW2 , only about one third survived so it is pot luck unfortunately Still well worth checking though, Ancestry say they will be online hopefully by the end of this year, they are also available via the LDS who have them filmed Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > It isn't a very common name and I've managed to narrow it down to about 3 > possibilities - hence my question about the regiments (in an attempt to > find the right one). The person in question was my Great Uncle and it > seems that he was probably the last male in the line (unless he was > married and had a son of course). All I knew from my grandmother is that > she had a brother who died in the Great War. His name was William Ness b. > 1891 in Port Glasgow. > Regards > Michael >

Michael, Forgot to mention the War Graves Commission website, but googling will get you there too. www.cwgc.org Katie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Harris" <isamickey@yahoo.co.uk> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] WWI Regiments > Hi Nivard > It isn't a very common name and I've managed to narrow it down to about 3 > possibilities - hence my question about the regiments (in an attempt to > find the right one). The person in question was my Great Uncle and it > seems that he was probably the last male in the line (unless he was > married and had a son of course). All I knew from my grandmother is that > she had a brother who died in the Great War. His name was William Ness b. > 1891 in Port Glasgow. > Regards > Michael > > Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Michael > > There was very limited choice as such and only in the early years of the > War, who is it you seek? > > Could he have served overseas and have earned medals? He may be included > in > the medal cards, it can be difficult to work out which is his if its a > common name but worth a try > > Let us know his name, place of birth and year and perhaps something might > be > found on him > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael Common name or not, there are graves for at least ten William or W NESS on the Commonwealth War Graves site (non-pay) some of which are clearly not yours but maybe one of whom could be. Most of those from Scotland. There is no clear link to anyone with parents William F and Christina Livingston, but the records do give a service number for each deceased soldier even if the parents are unknown. With the number you might at least be able to find more records and eliminate some of these men. Scotland's People has two William NESS deaths in the Minor Records and War Returns between 1913 and 1919, one of whom would be the right age, but those records don't provide any information at all except to say killed in action rather than later from injuries sustained. Looking for WW1 service records for NESS on Ancestry only seems to turn up NASH, unless I'm doing something wrong. There was one War Medal card for a William NESS, but inconclusive as to whether it might be your great uncle. Again, checking the service numbers and their regiments could be another avenue to try. It's a poignant trail, going in search of elusive family who succumbed in the Wars without our ever knowing them and we can only begin to imagine what it must have meant to our family left behind. Good luck. Katie de Haan The Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Harris" <isamickey@yahoo.co.uk> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] WWI Regiments > Hi Nivard > It isn't a very common name and I've managed to narrow it down to about 3 > possibilities - hence my question about the regiments (in an attempt to > find the right one). The person in question was my Great Uncle and it > seems that he was probably the last male in the line (unless he was > married and had a son of course). All I knew from my grandmother is that > she had a brother who died in the Great War. His name was William Ness b. > 1891 in Port Glasgow. > Regards > Michael > > Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Michael > > There was very limited choice as such and only in the early years of the > War, who is it you seek? > > Could he have served overseas and have earned medals? He may be included > in > the medal cards, it can be difficult to work out which is his if its a > common name but worth a try > > Let us know his name, place of birth and year and perhaps something might > be > found on him > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Thanks to everyone especially Nivard, Jim, Don, Keith and Katie for all your help on my question - it's given me plenty of information and advice about how to carry on my search. Cheers Michael Harris

Hello MichaelH If he enlisted prior to the introduction of conscription in January 1916 he could have signed up with any regiment that was recruiting in the area in which he was living unless he travelled to Glasgow to enlist in which case he could probably have signed up with any of the Scottish infantry regiments, or with other regiments or corps such as the Royal Artillery, Engineers,or Ordnance or even with the cavalry if he knew one end of a horse from the other.. Once conscription was in place he could have been drafted to an English county regiment, or to a Welsh or Irish Regiment or indeed to whatever unit the war office were anxious to recruit for on the day. There were no barriers and precious little in the way of choices until the idea spread that it would be "good for morale" to keep;local lads together,so that when they went "over the top" they could all be mown down together. My father enlisted in 1914 in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment because they happened to be recruiting in Maidstone when war broke out. He had grown up in Kent and never been to Warwickshire nor had any family links to that county. Most sane people would have said he would have joined either of the Kent regiments,but it often just did not work like that! .He then spent 23 years with the Warwicks ! Jim Halsey

Hi Nivard It isn't a very common name and I've managed to narrow it down to about 3 possibilities - hence my question about the regiments (in an attempt to find the right one). The person in question was my Great Uncle and it seems that he was probably the last male in the line (unless he was married and had a son of course). All I knew from my grandmother is that she had a brother who died in the Great War. His name was William Ness b. 1891 in Port Glasgow. Regards Michael Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: Hi Michael There was very limited choice as such and only in the early years of the War, who is it you seek? Could he have served overseas and have earned medals? He may be included in the medal cards, it can be difficult to work out which is his if its a common name but worth a try Let us know his name, place of birth and year and perhaps something might be found on him Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Michael There was very limited choice as such and only in the early years of the War, who is it you seek? Could he have served overseas and have earned medals? He may be included in the medal cards, it can be difficult to work out which is his if its a common name but worth a try Let us know his name, place of birth and year and perhaps something might be found on him Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi All > > Just joined as I have ancestors from Port Glasgow but I wondered if > anyone could give me a clue as to what regiment a man from Port Glasgow is > likely to have joined in World War I? > > Thanks > > Michael Harris

Michael Following is from Ancestry search for William Ness Port Glasgow 1901 Census Name: William Ness Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William F Mother's Name: Christina L Gender: Male Where born: Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 574 Registration district: Port Glasgow Civil Parish: Port Glasgow County: Renfrewshire Address: 5 Belhaven St Occupation: Sch ED: 15 Household schedule number: 68 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1901_213 Household Members: Name Age _Mary Millor_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901Scotland&indiv=try&h=3017618) 22 _Catherine G L Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901Scotland&indiv=try&h=3017617) 5 _Christina L Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901Scotland&indiv=try&h=3017615) 35 _William Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901Scotland&indiv=try&h=3017616) 9 _William F Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1901Scotland&indiv=try&h=3017614) 40 a public viewable tree info William Ness b 13-May-1891 sister Catherine Gemmill Livingston Ness Father is William F Ness b 1861 Glasgow Lanarkshire Scotland Mother is Christina Livingston b 1866 Glasgow Lanarkshire Scotland Fathers Father William Ness b 1834 Glasgow Lanarkshire Fathers Mother Catherine Reid b 1834 Glasgow Lanarkshire d 1882-90 Mothers Father Archibald Livingston b 1839 Kilmalcolm Renfrewshire Mothers Mother Catherine Gemmill b 1840 Paisley Renfrewshire Paternal Great Grandfather James Ness b 1796 Scotland d 1842 Paternal Great Grandmother Elizabeth Finlay b 1801 Farnell, Angus d 1852-60 Maternal Great Grandfather John Reid b 1811 Lanarkshire Maternal Great Grandfather Janet b 1811 Lanarkshire The Above info was from a public tree by Harris Hickman (isamickey)<--Ancestry name last updated 9/8/2008 it has 1199 people in the tree along with 69 photos. Playing with those dates I found 1841 Name: James Ness Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: King Street Occupation: Joiner Parish Number: 644/2 Neighbors: _View others on page_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=5538&db=1841Scotland&F0=CSSCT1841_110-0077&F9=10) Household Members: Name Age _Agnes Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386591) 11 _Alexander Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386589) 15 _Elizabeth Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386587) 40 _George Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386594) 4 _James Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386586) 45 _James Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=3865 88) 17 _Janet Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386595) 4 _John Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386592) 9 _Robert Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386590) 13 _William Ness_ (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1841Scotland&indiv=try&h=386593) 7 Maybe this is a start or maybe not Just a Yank playing with his Ancestry subscription on a Monday night. Good Luck in you search My tree is a bunch of block printers that emigrated to US in 1867 Keith W Brown Indianapolis IN http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Michael, This is from Military-Genealogy.com and yes it's a pay-per-view service. There are eight of them listed, six with places of birth two without of which one could be yours. The caveat (and there's always a caveat) is that he could have joined the merchant marines and if so then he wouldn't be listed. Ness William W Ness William W Cowdenbeath, Fifeshire Ness William W Ness William W Yarm-on-tees Ness William W Howdon-on-tyne Ness William W West Kilbride, Ayrshire Add Ness William W Dundonald, Ayrshire Girvan, Ayrshire Ness William W Inveresk, Midlothian Musselburgh, Midlothian You can also access Military records through Ancestry.co.uk Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA

Hi All Just joined as I have ancestors from Port Glasgow but I wondered if anyone could give me a clue as to what regiment a man from Port Glasgow is likely to have joined in World War I? Thanks Michael Harris

Could be a connection I have a John LANG M Jean HANNAH both from Johnstone had a son William born 1814 who married my connection what do you think?? -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sct-renfrew-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 10 September 2008 7:02 p.m. To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 160 Today's Topics: 1. Re: checking (Margaret Silvester) 2. Re: checking (John Carswell) 3. Re: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 (Glenda Kyle and Dave Brook) 4. Re: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 (Our Trees) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:03:40 +1000 From: "Margaret Silvester" <margsil@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] checking To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002d01c91252$927c55d0$0300000a@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Glenda, Can you tell me what LANGs you have in your tree. I have a Grace LANG d 1919 at 8 Northfield St., Ayr. Her parents James LANG d 1814 (Johnstone) and Grace JOHNSTON d 1877 (Paisley). Her siblings Mary, John and two named Elizabeth. Any connections here? Margaret Silvester Australia.

HOWIE J Lochridge. My Howies come from Bothwell, Lanarkshire, Kilwinning, and Riccarton I have a massive tree for them GOLDER CanROverson MY John GOLDER was born In Glasgow c 1832, (father William GOLDER mother Janet COOK) he married a lady from London, then they went to Australia, came to New Zealand divorced in 1887 and married again to a relative of mine just a short time after, then she died and he married again. He buried the last 2 wives together - LISTEN to them talk......... any connection in there for you

Thankyou for the replies.. Looks like I am still subscribed on my "old" email so better get it off.. Just answering quickly: J Lochridge = HOWIE will answer when on my correct laptop. JohnMac - I am not requesting anything that is my SIGNATURE which goes out at the end of all my emails, it's amazing how many pick up on something THEY are researching and send me a query. I was merely saying no Digests had come thru. CandROversen - your GOLDER sounds very familiar. This email digest will have gone thru to my other laptop so will answer from there later in the day but very possible a connection. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sct-renfrew-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 9 September 2008 7:02 p.m. To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 Today's Topics: 1. Re: checking (J LOCHRIDGE) 2. Re: checking (John Mac) 3. Re: checking: GOLDER (CandROverson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:19:00 +0000 (GMT) From: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] checking To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <791624.43468.qm@web86703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Glenda, Saw that you have Howie on your list of ancestors.? Is this ancestor in the Neilston area? Johan ----- Original Message ---- From: Our Trees <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 8 September, 2008 6:33:12 AM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] checking Subscribed under my family tree dedicated email on Friday morning (New Zealand time) and nothing come thru since then is the list quiet??? Glenda KYLE? - RESEARCHING: KYLE/S Ireland, Scotland to New Zealand LOOMES? Leicester to New Zealand - FRANKLYN? England, Australia, New Zealand GREEN/E Ireland, New Zealand - HOWIE Scotland, New Zealand? SHORE Yorkshire, Scotland, New Zealand SAYNOR Australia, New Zealand - GREAVES Kent, New Zealand, GOLDER Scotland, New Zealand - WALE England, Australia, New Zealand? LANG Ayrshire, BLAIR Ayrshire, MALLOY/MALLEY/MOLLOY/MULLOY Glasgow/Ayrshire, COMBES, England, BROOK and PAULHILL Kent and New Zealand HUNTER and CRAWFORD , Ayrshire TORRANCE Scotland, New Zealand, McKINDLAY/McKINLAY Co Antrim/Ayrshire, FINCH UK DRYWOOD, BUDDS, SMITH, BERRY, LATTER, NICHOLS, COUNTS, MARSH, JAKLY, LENHAM, TANNER, WATTS, SWAFFORD, R(A)ELPH, WIRE, WHEELER, MARTIN AND BENNETT all vicinity of Maidstone from 1600? and many many more ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:52:46 +0100 From: "John Mac" <jaydee@john1.wanadoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] checking To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <74DBBA6EA7D8431B84F46508B4295258@JaymacPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi, Folk don't really like to help out with a load of surnames. They prefer specifics like, what are you looking for ? Birth, deaths, census, MI's etc. No use getting details as they may already been done and just duplicating your work. Also most of the names are English and probably never came through Renfrewshire never mind Scotland. Help is out there if you break it down a bit and give parents names etc. No floods in Renfrewshire or Scotland or even most of UK Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] checking > > Subscribed under my family tree dedicated email on Friday morning (New > Zealand time) and nothing come thru since then is the list quiet??? > > > Glenda KYLE - RESEARCHING: > > KYLE/S Ireland, Scotland to New Zealand LOOMES Leicester to New Zealand - > FRANKLYN England, Australia, New Zealand GREEN/E Ireland, New Zealand - > HOWIE Scotland, New Zealand SHORE Yorkshire, Scotland, New Zealand SAYNOR > Australia, New Zealand - GREAVES Kent, New Zealand, GOLDER Scotland, New > Zealand - WALE England, Australia, New Zealand LANG Ayrshire, BLAIR > Ayrshire, MALLOY/MALLEY/MOLLOY/MULLOY Glasgow/Ayrshire, COMBES, England, > BROOK and PAULHILL Kent and New Zealand HUNTER and CRAWFORD , Ayrshire > TORRANCE Scotland, New Zealand, McKINDLAY/McKINLAY Co Antrim/Ayrshire, > FINCH > UK DRYWOOD, BUDDS, SMITH, BERRY, LATTER, NICHOLS, COUNTS, MARSH, JAKLY, > LENHAM, TANNER, WATTS, SWAFFORD, R(A)ELPH, WIRE, WHEELER, MARTIN AND > BENNETT > all vicinity of Maidstone from 1600 and many many more > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:54:46 +0100 From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] checking: GOLDER To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D10020F2F22F4B4E827B030B239FEDDD@Chris> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Glenda I have an Annie GOLDER who married into my tree. She was born in Larkhall, Lanarkshire c1882, the daughter of John GOLDER and Christine HUTCHISON. Mary GOLDER was a witness at her marriage. Rhoda ------------------------------ To contact the SCT-RENFREW list administrator, send an email to SCT-RENFREW-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SCT-RENFREW mailing list, send an email to SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 3, Issue 159 *******************************************

Glenda, Can you tell me what LANGs you have in your tree. I have a Grace LANG d 1919 at 8 Northfield St., Ayr. Her parents James LANG d 1814 (Johnstone) and Grace JOHNSTON d 1877 (Paisley). Her siblings Mary, John and two named Elizabeth. Any connections here? Margaret Silvester Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] checking > Subscribed under my family tree dedicated email on Friday morning (New > Zealand time) and nothing come thru since then is the list quiet??? > > > Glenda KYLE - RESEARCHING: > > KYLE/S Ireland, Scotland to New Zealand LOOMES Leicester to New Zealand - > FRANKLYN England, Australia, New Zealand GREEN/E Ireland, New Zealand - > HOWIE Scotland, New Zealand SHORE Yorkshire, Scotland, New Zealand SAYNOR > Australia, New Zealand - GREAVES Kent, New Zealand, GOLDER Scotland, New > Zealand - WALE England, Australia, New Zealand LANG Ayrshire, BLAIR > Ayrshire, MALLOY/MALLEY/MOLLOY/MULLOY Glasgow/Ayrshire, COMBES, England, > BROOK and PAULHILL Kent and New Zealand HUNTER and CRAWFORD , Ayrshire > TORRANCE Scotland, New Zealand, McKINDLAY/McKINLAY Co Antrim/Ayrshire, > FINCH > UK DRYWOOD, BUDDS, SMITH, BERRY, LATTER, NICHOLS, COUNTS, MARSH, JAKLY, > LENHAM, TANNER, WATTS, SWAFFORD, R(A)ELPH, WIRE, WHEELER, MARTIN AND > BENNETT > all vicinity of Maidstone from 1600 and many many more > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subscribed under my family tree dedicated email on Friday morning (New Zealand time) and nothing come thru since then is the list quiet??? Glenda KYLE - RESEARCHING: KYLE/S Ireland, Scotland to New Zealand LOOMES Leicester to New Zealand - FRANKLYN England, Australia, New Zealand GREEN/E Ireland, New Zealand - HOWIE Scotland, New Zealand SHORE Yorkshire, Scotland, New Zealand SAYNOR Australia, New Zealand - GREAVES Kent, New Zealand, GOLDER Scotland, New Zealand - WALE England, Australia, New Zealand LANG Ayrshire, BLAIR Ayrshire, MALLOY/MALLEY/MOLLOY/MULLOY Glasgow/Ayrshire, COMBES, England, BROOK and PAULHILL Kent and New Zealand HUNTER and CRAWFORD , Ayrshire TORRANCE Scotland, New Zealand, McKINDLAY/McKINLAY Co Antrim/Ayrshire, FINCH UK DRYWOOD, BUDDS, SMITH, BERRY, LATTER, NICHOLS, COUNTS, MARSH, JAKLY, LENHAM, TANNER, WATTS, SWAFFORD, R(A)ELPH, WIRE, WHEELER, MARTIN AND BENNETT all vicinity of Maidstone from 1600 and many many more

Hello Glenda, All of Scotland is probably watching the USA Tennis Open. My gggg grandmother was Agnes ( Nance) Howie born 1757 to Rob Howie & Agnes Craig of Langtown farm Mearns Parish Renfrewshire. She married Allan Carswell in 1778 & had 10 children in the farm Craig of Neilston Neilston Parish Renfrewshirre. Looking forward to hearing whether we have a connection. Regards, John Carswell. Interests, Carswell, Howie, Stevenson, Gemmell, McKay. Kirkwood, Sproul,farmers of Neilston Parish.Also Lang,Henderson, Craig, Mitchell,Purdon McQue & McLuckie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Trees" <our.trees@paradise.net.nz> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] checking > Subscribed under my family tree dedicated email on Friday morning (New > Zealand time) and nothing come thru since then is the list quiet??? > > > Glenda KYLE - RESEARCHING: > > KYLE/S Ireland, Scotland to New Zealand LOOMES Leicester to New Zealand - > FRANKLYN England, Australia, New Zealand GREEN/E Ireland, New Zealand - > HOWIE Scotland, New Zealand SHORE Yorkshire, Scotland, New Zealand SAYNOR > Australia, New Zealand - GREAVES Kent, New Zealand, GOLDER Scotland, New > Zealand - WALE England, Australia, New Zealand LANG Ayrshire, BLAIR > Ayrshire, MALLOY/MALLEY/MOLLOY/MULLOY Glasgow/Ayrshire, COMBES, England, > BROOK and PAULHILL Kent and New Zealand HUNTER and CRAWFORD , Ayrshire > TORRANCE Scotland, New Zealand, McKINDLAY/McKINLAY Co Antrim/Ayrshire, > FINCH > UK DRYWOOD, BUDDS, SMITH, BERRY, LATTER, NICHOLS, COUNTS, MARSH, JAKLY, > LENHAM, TANNER, WATTS, SWAFFORD, R(A)ELPH, WIRE, WHEELER, MARTIN AND > BENNETT > all vicinity of Maidstone from 1600 and many many more > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

They're probably bucketing the water out of their houses over in the UK.

Hi Glenda I have an Annie GOLDER who married into my tree. She was born in Larkhall, Lanarkshire c1882, the daughter of John GOLDER and Christine HUTCHISON. Mary GOLDER was a witness at her marriage. Rhoda