Ho Ho Ho to you as well. Perhaps we should start our own revolt. I've learned through family history that it's definitely in my blood. Have a good Christmas to all. Margaret Silvester Qld Australia Where we celebrate Christmas with kangaroos, koalas, rusty holden utes, plenty of hot sunshine, cold beer and prawns (to eat of course!). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Johnson" <bjohnson3@vtown.com.au> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 5:01 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Shiiping lists > Ho ho ho and Merry Christmas to all ( if that offends anybody well bad > luck !! ) > Does anyone have knowlege please of URLs for outward shipping lists from > Greenock or near by > port(s) or is that strictly Scottish People territory?? > Kind regards > Brian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian, have you tried the state Archives of New South Wales, Assisted and Unassisted Immigrants, Victoria, south Australia Shipping, State Archives of Queensland, click assisted immigration - alot of our shipping online. Also try Mariners and ships in Australasian Waters, Perth DPS site, Tasmania Archives, W.A.G.S. (Western Australian Genealogy Society). That's just for a start. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Johnson" <bjohnson3@vtown.com.au> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Shiiping lists > Thank you Sheelagh , > well i'm not sure maybe Australia , its just that they ( Mary > Ann > WALKER and daughter Joan ? were on the 1841 census , not on the 1851 , > Robert ( also on 1841 census ) came to Australia circa 1848 , other > daughter > Mary Ann on census married Alexander MCLEOD in Greenock and died in > Greenock > circa 1868 and other daughter Ann also on 1841 census married James > MCPHAIL > and went to Canada , so i am in the dark a little bit !! But thank you > for > replying anyway > kindest regards > Brian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheelagh Wiles" <swiles@ozemail.com.au> > To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Shiiping lists > > >> Hi Brian >> >> Where do you want them going? >> >> Cheers >> Sheelagh >> > **************************************************************************** > **************************************************************************** > **************************************************************************** > *************************************************************** >> >> When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow >> list >> members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP >> everything >> which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the >> footers which will be put back anyway!) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1862 - Release Date: 12/23/2008 12:08 PM

Thank you Sheelagh , well i'm not sure maybe Australia , its just that they ( Mary Ann WALKER and daughter Joan ? were on the 1841 census , not on the 1851 , Robert ( also on 1841 census ) came to Australia circa 1848 , other daughter Mary Ann on census married Alexander MCLEOD in Greenock and died in Greenock circa 1868 and other daughter Ann also on 1841 census married James MCPHAIL and went to Canada , so i am in the dark a little bit !! But thank you for replying anyway kindest regards Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheelagh Wiles" <swiles@ozemail.com.au> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Shiiping lists > Hi Brian > > Where do you want them going? > > Cheers > Sheelagh > **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** *************************************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Brian Where do you want them going? Cheers Sheelagh *************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!)

Ho ho ho and Merry Christmas to all ( if that offends anybody well bad luck !! ) Does anyone have knowlege please of URLs for outward shipping lists from Greenock or near by port(s) or is that strictly Scottish People territory?? Kind regards Brian

Hi, my g.grandmother Margaret McColl (Peggy or Maggie) was at Ferguslie House in 1888 when she married my g.grandfather David Masson. In the 1881 census she was working for Kate Boyd at Millarston House. Kate was married to James Boyd and Kate was the daughter of Thomas Coats. Regards, Sandy (Tasmania)

Alexander STENHOUSE, my third cousin 3 times removed, was also employed by the Coats family as a Gardener in the 1881 Census. Below are two slightly different versions of the census with some employees listed. Cheers, San-Dee Lyons ____________________________ 1st version from Ancestry Registration Number: 573; Registration district: Paisley; Civil Parish: Paisley Abbey; County: Renfrewshire Dwelling: Ferguslie House; ED: 105; Household schedule number: 83; Line: 1; Roll: cssct1881_175 Thomas Coats Age: 71 (abt 1810) Relationship: Head Spouse's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Occupation: Thread Manufacturer (Employing 480 Males & 1920 Females) Margaret Coats Age: 61 (abt 1820) Relationship: Wife Spouse's name Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire James Coats Age: 39 (abt 1842) Relationship: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Occupation: Thread Manufacturer Janet Coats Age: 37 (abt 18440 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Margaret Coats Age: 23 (abt 1858) Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Jeanie Coats Age: 21 (abt 1860) Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Andrew Coats Age: 18 (abt 1863) Relationship: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Lilian Coats Age: 15 (abt 1866) Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Margaret C Gregory Age: 38 (abt 1843) Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Table Maid (Domestic ) Ann R Mair Age: 60 (abt 1821) Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Kilmun, Ross- Occupation: Cook (Domestic ) Catharine Marshal Age: 30 (abt 1851) Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Grangemouth, Stirlingshire Occupation: House Maid (Domestice) Jessie Scott Age: 32 (abt 1849) Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: , Stobo Occupation: House Maid (Domestice Alexander Stenhouse Age: 26 (abt 1855) Relationship: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Dunfermline, Fifeshire Address: Ferguslie, Gardeners Lodge Occupation: Under Gardener John McAlister Age: 20 (abt 1861) Relationship: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Skipness, Argyllshire Address: Ferguslie, Gardeners Lodge Occupation: Under Gardener John McInnes Age: 18 (abt 1863) Relationship: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ardrossan, Ayrshire Address: Ferguslie, Gardeners Lodge Occupation: Under Gardener Registration Number: 573; Registration district: Paisley; Civil Parish: Paisley Abbey; County: Renfrewshire; Dwelling: Ferguslie Park; EnumDist:94; Household schedule number: 45 ;Page: 16; Line: 22 Thomas G Coats; Age:35 (abt 1846); Relationship: Head; Spouse's name :Eliza Agnes; Gender: Male; Where born: Renfrewshire, Paisley; Occupation: Thread Manufacturer Eliza Agnes Coats; Age:25 (abt 1856); Relationship: Wife; Spouse's name :Thomas G; Gender: Female ; Where born: Canada Thomas Glen Coats; Age:3 (abt 1878;) Relationship: Son; Father's Name: Thomas G; Mother's Name: Eliza Agnes; Gender: Male; Where born: Renfrewshire, Paisley Margaret Ryan; Age:29 (abt 1852); Relationship: Servant; Gender: Female; Where born: Ireland; Occupation: Cook; Domestic Servant Flora McAlpine; Age:35 (abt 1846); Relationship: Servant; Gender: Female; Where born: Islay Gaelic, Port Allan; Occupation: Housemaid Elizabeth Dunlop; Age:35 (abt 1846); Relationship: Servant; Gender: Female; Where born: Canada; Occupation: Nurse 2nd version from cd's for British Isles - also includes some neighbours Neighbour to Thomas Coats, Sr. Name/Married or Unmarried/Age/Gender/Birthplace/Relationship to head of family/Occupation Dwelling: Ferguslie East Lodge; Census Place: Abbey, Renfrew, Scotland; GRO Ref Volume 573; EnumDist 105; Page 16 Mary CHAPMAN W 61 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Gatekeeper Thomas Coats, Sr. Dwelling: Ferguslie House; Census Place: Abbey, Renfrew, Scotland; Source: FHL Film 0203585; GRO Ref; Volume 573; EnumDist 105; Page 17 Thomas COATS M 71 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland; Rel: Head; Occ: Thread Manufactuer (Employing 480 Males & 1920 Females) Margaret COATS M 61 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife James COATS U 39 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Thread Manufacturer Janet COATS U 37 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Margaret COATS U 23 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Jeanie COATS U 21 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Andrew COATS U 18 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Clerk Lilian COATS U 15 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Daur Margaret C. GREGORY U 38 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Table Maid (Domestic) Ann R. MAIR W 60 F Kilmuir, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Cook (Domestic) Catharine MARSHAL U 30 F Grangemouth, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid (Domestic) Jessie SCOTT U 32 F Stobo, Perth, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid (Domestic) More Neighbours to Thomas Coats, Sr. Dwelling: Ferguslie Garde [Garden]Lodge; Census Place: Abbey, Renfrew, Scotland; Page 17 Alexander STENHOUSE U 26 M Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Serv (Head) Occ: Under Gardener John MC ALISTER U 20 M Skipness, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Under Gardener John MC INNES U 48 M Ardrossan, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Under Gardener Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie; Census Place: Abbey, Renfrew, Scotland; Page 17 George OGG M 70 M Stonehaven, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Spirit Dealer Jane OGG M 62 F Turbolton, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Wife Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie John MOODIE M 74 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Hair Weaver Agnes MOODIE M 74 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie Mary MC GEOCH U 50 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Thread Millworker Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie Jane MC FARLANE W 75 F Inverary, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Ladies Nurse Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie Janet YOUNG U 26 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Thread Millworker Isabella YOUNG U 23 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Thread Millworker Henrietta YOUNG U 21 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Thread Millworker Marion YOUNG U 20 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Thread Millworker Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie (B L) Page 18 William LANG M 73 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Cotton Weaver Jane LANG M 73 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife Dwelling: 36 Ferguslie Mary MORRIS U 75 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Formerly Millworker Ellen MORRIS U 67 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Formerly Millworker Thomas Coats, Jr. Dwelling: Ferguslie Park; Census Place: Abbey, Renfrew, Scotland; Source: FHL Film 0203585; GRO Ref; Volume 573; EnumDist 94; Page 16 Thomas G. COATS M 35 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Thread Manufacturer Eliza Agnes COATS M 25 F Canada Rel: Wife Thomas Glen COATS 3 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Son Margaret RYAN U 29 F Ireland Rel: Servant Occ: Cook Domestic Servant Flora MC ALPINE U 35 F Port Allan Islay Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid Elizabeth DUNLOP W 35 F Canada Rel: Servant Occ: Nurse Neighbour to Thomas Coats, Jr. Dwelling: Ferguslie Park North Lodge EnumDist 94 Page 16 (Mrs) ANDREW U 60 F Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Gate Keeper (Mrs) MILLAR M 59 F Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Sister Occ: Plumbers Wife > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <darkwing@shaw.ca> > To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > > > My Grandmother, some of her sisters and her Father all worked in the > Coats mill. I am wondering if their might be any records of the > employees available somewhere. > > Gail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

There are too many pop-ups on this website. Every blessing Christine Hello Friends, You can see a photo of the mill that a friend in Scotland had sent to me some years ago. I have an online album at Webshots. Here is the link: http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563116029oCSBLE?vhost=good-times You can see a larger image by clicking on "full size" in the right hand menu. Happy Holidays to all!, Joe Hay in Hampton, VA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_1 22008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Grand-Mother, Annie Logan, worked in Coats & Clark in Paisley and then in the Newark, New Jersey USA about 1922- 1923 retired from there c. 1924 and remained in the US. My mother, Annie Stewart, worked in the Paisley plant until 1921 and came to the USA. They lived at McKerrill St. Paisley from 1900 to 1921: previous to that they lived in Clifden, Co. Galway, Ireland. Anyone remember or tracing the Logan and Stewart families? Please contact me. Jim Stewart.

thanks Joe , great pictures ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Hay" <jphay@hotmail.com> To: "RENFREW County list" <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com>; <copernicus@normington.me.uk> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] See photo of Coates mill, Paisley > > Sounds like you need a pop-up blocker. It's a very safe site, that I've > been on for over ten years. I was just on it and received only one pop-up. > You may need to set your security up higher. You may want to try after the > Holidays, with our poor economy companies are scrambling for sales before > the season is over. > > Blessings Now and in the New Year, Joe> From: copernicus@normington.me.uk> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:27:06 +0000> > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] See photo of Coates mill, Paisley> > There are > too many pop-ups on this website.> Every blessing> Christine> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, You can see a photo of the mill that a friend in > Scotland had> sent to me some years ago. I have an online album at > Webshots. Here is the> link:> > > http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563116029oCSBLE?vhost=good-times> > > You can see a larger image by clicking on "full size" in the right hand> > menu.> > Happy Holidays to all!, Joe Hay in Hampton, VA, USA> > _________________________________________________________________> Send > e-mail faster without improving your typing skills.> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_1> > 22008> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to> SCT-RENFREW-request@! > rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the > subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sounds like you need a pop-up blocker. It's a very safe site, that I've been on for over ten years. I was just on it and received only one pop-up. You may need to set your security up higher. You may want to try after the Holidays, with our poor economy companies are scrambling for sales before the season is over. Blessings Now and in the New Year, Joe> From: copernicus@normington.me.uk> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:27:06 +0000> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] See photo of Coates mill, Paisley> > There are too many pop-ups on this website.> Every blessing> Christine> > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, You can see a photo of the mill that a friend in Scotland had> sent to me some years ago. I have an online album at Webshots. Here is the> link:> > http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563116029oCSBLE?vhost=good-times> > You can see a larger image by clicking on "full size" in the right hand> menu.> > Happy Holidays to all!, Joe Hay in Hampton, VA, USA> _________________________________________________________________> Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_1> 22008> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/

Hello Friends, You can see a photo of the mill that a friend in Scotland had sent to me some years ago. I have an online album at Webshots. Here is the link: http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563116029oCSBLE?vhost=good-times You can see a larger image by clicking on "full size" in the right hand menu. Happy Holidays to all!, Joe Hay in Hampton, VA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008

Hello Friends, Happy Holidays to all. You can see a picture of Coates mill, sent to me by a friend in Scotland some years ago. I have a photo album on line at Webshots. Here is the link to my album, titled "All Things Scottish". http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2647095120037400104KpgbAl?vhost=good-times Be sure to click on "full size" from the right hand menu when viewing any of the photos. Most of them are in high resolution. Cheers, Joe Hay in Hampton, VA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008

Hi Margaret et al, Around 1900, the big mills operating in Paisley were the Anchor Mills (of the Clark family) and Ferguslie Mills (of the Coats family). There were almost certainly other smaller cotton mills in the town, but these 2 were the biggies. In addition, there was a whole range of specialist support businesses offering additional process capacity for dyeing, bleaching, finishing, spool-making etc as well as indirect support in engineering, tool making etc. Paisley Library can almost certainly supply information on Coats' and Clark's smaller competitors. Regards, Ken Mathieson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Ross" <margaretross@sympatico.ca> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > My Grandma worked in a spinning mill in Paisley also, although I don't > know > the name of it. Her sisters probably worked there too. Does anyone know if > there is more than one mill operating aroung 1900

Hi all, For Paisley mills, check on these sites: http://www.paisleythread.org/history.php http://www.paisley.org.uk/history/mills.php http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/ilwwcm/publishing.nsf/Content/els-jh-AnchorMills John Mac Glasgow

My Dunlops had a cotton mill in what is now Barrhead, and every time I do a Google search for material on "cotton mills" and Renfrew I get heaps about Coats!! Also, there is material from the Dunlop business at the Scottish National ARchives, so presumably there is also stuff about Coats, which was bigger and more recent. Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- > That would be great to see some photos > >> My Grandmother, some of her sisters and her Father all worked in the >> Coats mill. I am wondering if there might be any records of the >> employees available somewhere. >> >> Gail >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That would be great to see some photo's and yes not only my mother worked at the factory quite a few of my ancestors worked there. My g.grandmother worked for the daughter of one of the owners as a maid and met her husband there who was their coach driver. Sandy (Tassie) ----- Original Message ----- From: <darkwing@shaw.ca> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > My Grandmother, some of her sisters and her Father all worked in the > Coats mill. I am wondering if their might be any records of the > employees available somewhere. > > Gail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, we're no longer at that email address, what would you like to know. Sandy (now Tassie) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Eschner" <beschner@columbus.rr.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > my grandmom also worked in Coats mill in paisley ! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alistair Stevenson" <alijohn@optusnet.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > > >> My mother worked as young girl at the Coats mill in Paisley and we're now >> living in Australia. Sandy (Wagga x 2) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Mathieson" <ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk> >> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >> >> >>> Hi Nuala, >>> >>> You're spot on there about St Petersburg. Coats had the biggest thread >> mill >>> in the world there from the late 19th century up till the time of the >>> Russian Revolution, when it was nationalised without compensation. I >> vaguely >>> remember a complicated story about all the title deeds, trade marks etc >>> being spirited out of Russia by the Scottish managers in order to prove >>> ownership in the event of the Revolution failing. Ironically, after >>> Perestroika, the Russians asked Coats to provide technical expertise in >>> modernising their thread industry, and (again vaguely remembered) I >>> think >>> some sort of a joint venture or partnership was formed, so Coats got >>> back >>> into the Russian market after all those years. >>> >>> In the late 1920s or early 30s, Coats also bought a German thread group, >> Mez >>> AG of Freiburg im Breisgau, and with it came subsidiaries in Austria, >>> Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia and Romania, to add to their >>> existing operations in other European, Asian, North and South American >>> countries, so by the late 1930s they were truly a global group, and a >>> very >>> successful one at that. When they set up a new factory it was common >>> practice to send a team of experts in every aspect of thread >> manufacturing, >>> marketing, administration etc to set up the operation train local staff, >> and >>> run the company. As a result, Paisley families dispersed all across the >>> globe, so don't be surprised at Scottish connections in the unlikeliest >>> places. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ken Mathieson >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nuala Cockburn" <nualacockburn@blueyonder.co.uk> >>> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >>> >>> >>> > Another place Coats set up factories was St. Petersberg in Russia. My >>> > husband's adopted great aunt was sent there by the firm to teach the >>> Russian >>> > girls in the cotton mill in the latter part of the 19th Century. She >> then >>> > became a governess in the family of the Grand Duke of Mecklenberg >> Strelitz >>> > where she remained until her death in 1908, she was buried in the >>> > family >>> > cemetery there. >>> > >>> > Nuala >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Roxanne Neel" <roxanne4mastiffs@verizon.net> >>> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:15 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks >>> > >>> > >>> > > Ken ~ Oh my goodness, I still have spools of Coats & Clarks thread >> from >>> > > years ago when I used to sew! I assumed it was made in America... >>> > > Thank you for the information! >>> > > Roxanne Neel >>> > > Cedarpines Park, California, USA >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Ken Mathieson wrote: >>> > > >>> > >>Hi Heather, >>> > >> >>> > >>The connection between Paisley and Guadalajara is that Paisley was >> once >>> > >>the >>> > >>World's leading town for the manufacture of sewing thread. There >>> > >>were >> 2 >>> > >>huge >>> > >>family businesses, the Clarks and the Coats, which eventually merged >> as >>> > >>United Thread Mills Ltd, a subsidiary of J & P Coats Ltd, which is >>> > >>now >>> > >>part >>> > >>of the Coats Viyella Tootal group. By the end of the 19th century, >> lots >>> of >>> > >>countries were erecting tariff barriers to limit imports and foster >>> local >>> > >>industry. Mexico was one such, and one of the Paisley companies set >>> > >>up >> a >>> > >>mill there (I'm not sure which), but in the 1960s & 70s when I >>> > >>worked >>> for >>> > >>Coats, they had a mill in Guadalajara and another in Mexico City, as >>> well >>> > >>as >>> > >>in countless other places around the world. Some googling should >>> > >>yield >>> > >>further info. >>> > >> >>> > >>I hope this helps, >>> > >> >>> > >>Ken Mathieson, >>> > >>Uddingston SCT >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>----- Original Message ----- >>> > >>From: "Mariposa Obsidian" <ehecatl2012@yahoo.com> >>> > >>To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:28 PM >>> > >>Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Muir, jamison, Orr >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>>Hi: Could someone place look ont the early census for me (Paisley) >> and >>> > >>> >>> > >>see if you can find the families of: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Joseph Johnston (b. 1832 in Paisley, Scotland) >>> > >>> Jean Young (b. 1838 in Paisley, Scotland). >>> > >>> >>> > >>> They both died in 1896 in Guadalajara Mexico. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I am trying to research the family and find out how they ended up >> in >>> > >>> >>> > >>Guadalajara of all places! >>> > >> >>> > >>> Thanks! >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Heather Hess nee Wilson >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>Cualli Tonalli! >>> > >>>Mariposita Obsidiana, P.A. >>> > >>> >>> > >>>http://www.thelensflare.com/u_mariposa.php >>> > >>>http://mariposadreaming.blogspot.com/ >>> > >>> >>> > >>>"I am an amateur and I intend to stay that way for the rest of my >>> > >>>life." - >>> > >>> >>> > >>Andre Kertesz, Hungary, 1930 >>> > >> >>> > >>>--------------------------------- >>> > >>>Yahoo! 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My Grandma worked in a spinning mill in Paisley also, although I don't know the name of it. Her sisters probably worked there too. Does anyone know if there is more than one mill operating aroung 1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: <darkwing@shaw.ca> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > My Grandmother, some of her sisters and her Father all worked in the > Coats mill. I am wondering if their might be any records of the > employees available somewhere. > > Gail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

that would be great if there were! or if anyone has pictures, I know I had seen online somewhere, group shots of the women of the mills ----- Original Message ----- From: <darkwing@shaw.ca> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] [Renfrew] Coats & Clarks > My Grandmother, some of her sisters and her Father all worked in the > Coats mill. I am wondering if their might be any records of the > employees available somewhere. > > Gail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >