Hi Carolyn, My conection with the Houston family is a very minor one. My g/grandfather sold his property, "Iverton" to George Ludovic Houston in 1872 for 120pounds - 20 years after he came to Australia. I have no idea as to the delay in selling! Frederick Chopin stayed at Johnstone Castle in September 1848 - he was the guest of the 5th Laird of Johnstone Castle, and there was at least one more Laird after that. Chopin had tutored the 5th Laird's wife in piano in Paris. During his stay at Johnstone he gave a concert in Glasgow on September 27th. The George listed in the 1891 Census, and born about 1847 would probably be the son of the Laird who hosted Chopin and the one to whom my g/grandfather sold his property. After WW2 most of the land around the castle was acquired for housing so that today only the Keep remains. Cheers, Graham (Melbourne, Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON > Greetings, > > This is my first post to the Renfrew list. > > I too am interested in the Houston family who lived in Johnstone > Castle because I have an ancestor, Jessie Polson whose marriage record > of 1873 in Glasgow states she was working as a domestic at Johnstone > Castle. After reading a little about the Houstons and Johnstone castle > on a few sites, including the one below, I see that my ancestor must > have been working for the last laird, George Ludovic Houston, and his > family. > > I'd very much like to learn more about the Houstons, their involvement > in the cotton industry and coal mining, the castle itself, the working > conditions of their servants, etc. > > http://www.johnstonecastle.org/documents/Johnstone%20Castle%20Brochure.pdf > > Regards, > > Carolyn (Montreal Quebec) > > *************************************************************** > http://wikimapia.org/2030685/LocheedTower > > There were probably several with this name > > Cheers!!! > > Don Muirhead > Port Dover, ON CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Keanie > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:18 PM > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON > > The 1891 census shows George Ludovic Houston as being 44 years of age > living > in Johnstone Castle making him born about 1847. > > Wilkipedia meantime states that George Ludovic Houston as the Laird of > Johnstone donated land for the two squares in 1782 which suggest that > there > were two George Ludovic Houstons. > > Could someone please shed whatever light might be available on this/ > these > gents. Thanks > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I, too, would like to know more on this subject. My ancestor, James Patrick, was listed as a forester at Johnstone Castle, so I am curious about it all. Visited it in 1998, and it (the castle) has only a few walls standing, and if I remember correctly was surrounded by housing. Sandra. -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Perkes Sent: Saturday, 3 April 2010 8:11 AM To: SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON Greetings, This is my first post to the Renfrew list. I too am interested in the Houston family who lived in Johnstone Castle because I have an ancestor, Jessie Polson whose marriage record of 1873 in Glasgow states she was working as a domestic at Johnstone Castle. After reading a little about the Houstons and Johnstone castle on a few sites, including the one below, I see that my ancestor must have been working for the last laird, George Ludovic Houston, and his family. I'd very much like to learn more about the Houstons, their involvement in the cotton industry and coal mining, the castle itself, the working conditions of their servants, etc. http://www.johnstonecastle.org/documents/Johnstone%20Castle%20Brochure.p df Regards, Carolyn (Montreal Quebec) *************************************************************** http://wikimapia.org/2030685/LocheedTower There were probably several with this name Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Keanie Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:18 PM To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON The 1891 census shows George Ludovic Houston as being 44 years of age living in Johnstone Castle making him born about 1847. Wilkipedia meantime states that George Ludovic Houston as the Laird of Johnstone donated land for the two squares in 1782 which suggest that there were two George Ludovic Houstons. Could someone please shed whatever light might be available on this/ these gents. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Sandra, This is fascinating. I will write to the Johnstone Learning Centre. Perhaps someone there can give us some clues. It seems a few people in the community have written some accounts. Johnstone Castle Learning Centre, Pine Crescent, Johnstone, PA5 0BX http://www.johnstonecastle.org/documents/Johnstone%20Castle%20Brochure.pdf Carolyn On 2-Apr-10, at 6:16 PM, Sandra Beckett wrote: > I, too, would like to know more on this subject. My ancestor, James > Patrick, was listed as a forester at Johnstone Castle, so I am curious > about it all. Visited it in 1998, and it (the castle) has only a few > walls standing, and if I remember correctly was surrounded by housing. > > Sandra. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Perkes > Sent: Saturday, 3 April 2010 8:11 AM > To: SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON > > Greetings, > > This is my first post to the Renfrew list. > > I too am interested in the Houston family who lived in Johnstone > Castle because I have an ancestor, Jessie Polson whose marriage record > of 1873 in Glasgow states she was working as a domestic at Johnstone > Castle. After reading a little about the Houstons and Johnstone castle > on a few sites, including the one below, I see that my ancestor must > have been working for the last laird, George Ludovic Houston, and his > family. > > I'd very much like to learn more about the Houstons, their involvement > in the cotton industry and coal mining, the castle itself, the working > conditions of their servants, etc. > > http://www.johnstonecastle.org/documents/Johnstone%20Castle%20Brochure.p > df > > Regards, > > Carolyn (Montreal Quebec) > > ***************************************************************

Greetings, This is my first post to the Renfrew list. I too am interested in the Houston family who lived in Johnstone Castle because I have an ancestor, Jessie Polson whose marriage record of 1873 in Glasgow states she was working as a domestic at Johnstone Castle. After reading a little about the Houstons and Johnstone castle on a few sites, including the one below, I see that my ancestor must have been working for the last laird, George Ludovic Houston, and his family. I'd very much like to learn more about the Houstons, their involvement in the cotton industry and coal mining, the castle itself, the working conditions of their servants, etc. http://www.johnstonecastle.org/documents/Johnstone%20Castle%20Brochure.pdf Regards, Carolyn (Montreal Quebec) *************************************************************** http://wikimapia.org/2030685/LocheedTower There were probably several with this name Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Keanie Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:18 PM To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] HOUSTON The 1891 census shows George Ludovic Houston as being 44 years of age living in Johnstone Castle making him born about 1847. Wilkipedia meantime states that George Ludovic Houston as the Laird of Johnstone donated land for the two squares in 1782 which suggest that there were two George Ludovic Houstons. Could someone please shed whatever light might be available on this/ these gents. Thanks

Hello to everyone one on the list, Previous to this i have submitted an enquiry to the list asking for any info , since then i have found out more info This is what i have found so far . Alexander MCLEOD , porter , born circa 1822 in Harres or Harris Inverneshire , parents were Kenneth MCLEOD and Catherine MCDONALD , he married Mary Ann WALKER 1852 in Greenock and a daughter was born to them in Greenock 1853 Mary Ann MCLEOD ( nee WALKER ) died in 1868 in Greenock , her death was registered as Ann MCLEOD Alexander MCLEOD remarried to Margaret LAIRD in 1868 in Greenock , her parents were James LAIRD and Barbara SCOTT. Margaret MCLEOD ( nee LAIRD ) died in Greenock 1878 Alexander MCLEOD remarried to Margaret MCLEAN in Greenock 1879 , her parents were Donald MCLEAN and Rachel GORDON Alexander MCLEOD died in Greenock 1884 . I guess my main area of research is what happened to Mary Ann MCLEOD , the daughter of Alexander and Mary Ann WALKER , i have her on the the 1861 Scotland census , think i have her on the 1871 census , but it may be her on the England 1881 census as living in Moss Side Lancashire . any info or connection would be gratefully received Brian Johnson

Hi Nivard, I thank you so much for responding with the Watt Library Newspaper BMD Index address. That's the one! I think that's the one I had, but ......... who knows, maybe I missed part of it. Thank you. Gail

Hi Gail Could this help http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/community-life-and-leisure/local-history-and-heritage/watt-library-newspaper-index Found with a quick google for Watt Library Newspaper BMD Index Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi List, > > I just finished browsing the Renfrew list archives. I was looking for > the > on-line address for the above. I did find the e-mails referring to the > newspaper BMD Index along with the url. However, when I put in the > address > and clicked, it went to the Inverclyde Council website and stated page > unknown. > > Does anyone know if this database is still available on-line and if there > is a new address? > > Thanks, > > Gail > La Verne, CA USA

Hi List, I just finished browsing the Renfrew list archives. I was looking for the on-line address for the above. I did find the e-mails referring to the newspaper BMD Index along with the url. However, when I put in the address and clicked, it went to the Inverclyde Council website and stated page unknown. Does anyone know if this database is still available on-line and if there is a new address? Thanks, Gail La Verne, CA USA

Rosemary - You can check immigrant shipping and bounty immigrant ships on the NSW State Records website. There are several James Allison's arriving but none in 1840. Perhaps you need to look to several years from the time of marriage in Scotland. The website is www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online You can search for the name it may have been spelt differently as well and then you can view the digital copy online free. Good luck. Margaret in Qld. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Phillips" <madhuvidya61@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Clime/Allison > My gg grandparents were Margaret CLIME, of Collichant, Kilbarchan, > Renfrewshire, and James ALLISON. They married at Collichant farm in August > 1839 and came to Australia in 1840. They must have been associated with > Rev John Dunmore LANG as they were in his congregation in Sydney sometime > in 1840. I do know quite a lot about this couple but I have drawn a blank > on how they got to Australia. Much of the info I have was written by my > great grandmother, who was their 4th child, born 1846, in Sydney. They had > several more children. Any info regarding their departure, probably from > Greenock, would be appreciated. I am unable to get to Sydney, to the > Mitchell Library, which is our source of knowledge!! > Rosemary Phillips, Springwood, NSW > > "Be at peace and see a clear pattern running through your life. > Nothing is by chance" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My gg grandparents were Margaret CLIME, of Collichant, Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire, and James ALLISON. They married at Collichant farm in August 1839 and came to Australia in 1840. They must have been associated with Rev John Dunmore LANG as they were in his congregation in Sydney sometime in 1840. I do know quite a lot about this couple but I have drawn a blank on how they got to Australia. Much of the info I have was written by my great grandmother, who was their 4th child, born 1846, in Sydney. They had several more children. Any info regarding their departure, probably from Greenock, would be appreciated. I am unable to get to Sydney, to the Mitchell Library, which is our source of knowledge!! Rosemary Phillips, Springwood, NSW "Be at peace and see a clear pattern running through your life. Nothing is by chance"

Thanks Don, shall try as you said....Betty S

Thank you, Don ....I have looked at a few of the deaths you sent , but no luck (I have looked at some of those ones on SP over the year I noticed the very last one on your list,1864 Stewart Janet Duncan McFarlane Campbell F 42 Perth 397/00 0854. This is strange because Duncans mother was Janet MacFarlane! but they lived in Glassary Argyll. and she would have to be older than that .. I tried to bring it up on SP form but don't seem to be getting that particular one.....could you suggest what I should put in the search ? Regards Betty Sheather

I am trying to find the death of the above relie. who was born in Glassary, Argyll, 1823. He married Isabella Blair,1825, Kilmichael,in 1845,not sure where. I can trace the whole family till 1880's when some of the children married and I have managed to track them down,BUT Duncan seems to have vanished! In the 1891 census and Isabella says she is still married, and I have checked the childrens marriages to see if Duncan was still alive and on the first cert. that says he is dead is the marriage cert. of one of his children in 1895 So....he has disappeard after the 91 census and before 95. Any suggestions how to find this relie? TIA Betty Sheather

Betty This was my search parameters: You searched for: Surname: "STEWART"; Use Soundex: Off; Forename: "DUNCAN*"; Sex: "Both"; Year From: 1855; Year To: 2006; Birth Year: 1823; Birth Year Range: 2; The difference is the birth range of 2 years. Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty Sheather Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:24 AM To: SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Re Duncan Stewart Thank you, Don ....I have looked at a few of the deaths you sent , but no luck (I have looked at some of those ones on SP over the year I noticed the very last one on your list,1864 Stewart Janet Duncan McFarlane Campbell F 42 Perth 397/00 0854. This is strange because Duncans mother was Janet MacFarlane! but they lived in Glassary Argyll. and she would have to be older than that .. I tried to bring it up on SP form but don't seem to be getting that particular one.....could you suggest what I should put in the search ? Regards Betty Sheather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, These are all the deaths of a Duncan from 1855-2006. If you think he died between 1890-1895 then there is one to look at from Scot's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx 1863 STEWART DUNCAN MCGREGOR M 38 BLAIR ATHOLL /PERTH 334/00 0043 1864 STEWART DUNCAN M 42 GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 1056 1869 STEWART DUNCAN M 44 ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0009 1871 STEWART DUNCAN M 48 HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/02 1052 1876 STEWART DUNCAN M 54 DUROR /ARGYLL 525/04 0001 1884 STEWART DUNCAN M 62 ST GEORGE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/01 0197 1886 STEWART DUNCAN M 65 PERTH /PERTH 387/00 0377 1894 STEWART DUNCAN M 69 BLAIR ATHOLL /PERTH 334/00 0015 1898 STEWART DUNCAN M 74 KILRY /ANGUS 294/B0 0001 1908 STEWART DUNCAN M 87 CALLANDER /PERTH 336/00 0008 1864 STEWART JANET DUNCAN MCFARLANE CAMPBELL F 42 PERTH /PERTH 387/00 0854 Cheers!!! Don Muirhead Port Dover, ON CA -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty Sheather Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:06 PM To: SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Duncan Stewart,1823 I am trying to find the death of the above relie. who was born in Glassary, Argyll, 1823. He married Isabella Blair,1825, Kilmichael,in 1845,not sure where. I can trace the whole family till 1880's when some of the children married and I have managed to track them down,BUT Duncan seems to have vanished! In the 1891 census and Isabella says she is still married, and I have checked the childrens marriages to see if Duncan was still alive and on the first cert. that says he is dead is the marriage cert. of one of his children in 1895 So....he has disappeard after the 91 census and before 95. Any suggestions how to find this relie? TIA Betty Sheather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking death for William TIGHE last known as Labourer, 61 years old, at 1 Maxwell St, Pollockshaws, in 1851 Census, with wife, Elisabeth 50 and children Thomas 20, Jean 16, Elisabeth 14, Charles 12. A;so appreciate any info on others in family. This family also shown as THYE in 1841 Census for Pollockshaws, then living in Pollock St, with older children Mary & William, who would have been c25 and 22 in 1851. Jill Smith in Australia

Hi Rhoda, Regrettably I am not currently a member of Ancestry. At the time I was a member I collected a number of documents including some of the Scottish trial documents. I must have missed the 1848-9 document. I didn't renew my subscription when I started working on my Channel Islands ancestors as Ancestry is not much use there. It's a case of visiting the Channel Islands or knowing someone there to gather information. I have only just started catching up on my 'Dead Ends' and working out what information I need to find before joining Ancestry again. I think with Andrew Millar I need to follow up with the Archives Office of Tasmanian to try to find out what happened to the Andrew Millar convicted in 1843 and transported in 1845. There is still the fact that my Andrew said he was from Grennock and the convict was from Paisley. On Australian standards 17 mile is just next door, but for the UK/Scotland in the early 1800's it is a long way away. At the time I had access to Ancestry I thought Andrew was from Glasgow as that is what his son, recorded on his death registration, so I didn't look to anywhere else. Another thing with this family is that they were notorious for using their second names instead of their first. On the death of one of his daughters his name was recorded as William. So that is another possibility. The one place for entry into Australia that I haven't been able to explore properly is South Australia and I need to rejoin Ancestry to do that. It's possible that he arrived in Australia via South Australia. What has me doubting that my Andrew was a convict is that he was a well respected member of the community of Ararat. From what I have read so far the character of the convict just doesn't seem to match. I think that rather than trying to find him in Scotland and tracing him back to Australia, I need to go back to trying to find him in Australia before his marriage in 1853. What I need to do is make a list of all the possibilities and then rejoin Ancestry and search and hopefully find any original documentation. Thanks for all your help, Diane

Hi Irene, I haven't seen that particular document myself so I can not say for sure that it is a miss transcription, but considering that the 3 particular people concerned were tried some years earlier and had already been transported to Tasmania it seem a bit unusual that 5 years later 3 other people with exactly the same names would be tried for the same crime in 1848 One thing I have learnt is to never take transcribed information as fact. The only information that can be guaranteed is the original document. I have seen a number of miss transcriptions of official / legal documents that have been triple checked before publishing which have been incorrectly transcribed. I have also sent in corrections to FreeBDM and FreeCEN and Durham Records on-line where the information has been transcribed incorrectly because the transcribers interpretation of the information is different to what it actually says. These mistakes have only been picked up because I have seen the original document. Familysearch - LDS will not correct any errors even if you send them a copy of the original document to show them their mistake. At times it is only by knowing what a document actually say or how a name is spelt that you can see the errors between the original and the transcription. Not all the writing is perfectly legible on all documents. I have already seen a number of these documents we are talking about except for the one in 1848. Some were written in Scotland and some written in Tasmania. Some of the documents are very faded or damaged and at times the Elizabethan script, though clear, can be hard to read. On one of them where I know that the date is 1843 the 3 is not clear and could easily be taken for an 8. Once I am sure I have found the correct information in a transcription I generally try to get a copy of the original or make contact with someone who has seen the original to check for the accuracy of the transcription. You would be surprised at the number of errors there are out there in transcriptions of legal documents by professionals and volunteers alike. I have done some transcribing myself and it is not as easy as you would think Evan for a professional. If something is hard to read, often the people checking will read it the same as the person who first transcribed it and it is still incorrect. A cousin was at Kew recently looking at copies of original documents on fiche and some in registers. He said that although the writing was extremely clear compared to parish registers, the flowing Elizabethan script at times was difficult to understand. I could go on for ever about the accuracy of transcription but in the end the only documents that can be relied on are originals. Hopefully they are clear enough to read correctly. Best wishes, Diane

Hi Folks, It would have been a good idea to have started another thread instead of tacking this on to mine as the Subject Line of my post has nothing to do with your query. The problem comes further down the track if someone tries to find your post in the archives. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick McPherson To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details Hi Marie An interesting coincidence found on the Scotlands People site: Alexander Spears bap. 20 Dec 1789, Cupar, Fife, Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Steuart. Margaret Spears bap 19 Nov 1786, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Andrew Spears bap 09 Jul 1783, Cupar, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. Martha Spears bap 05 Nov 1780, Ceres, Fife Parents: Robert Spears & Betty Smart. (Martha's actual register entry was the only one giving her Father's occupation - shoemaker, of Craigrothie.) The way "Steuart" was written could be miss-read or transcribed as "Sweet". You mentioned that your Alexander was born in Greenock. Doesn't mean he was necessarily baptised there. For example his Mother may have returned to her family in Greenock for the birth, not uncommon at the time, especially if she had older children, then returned to her marital home for the baptism. My own gg-grandfather stated he was born in Greenock. His parents definitely married there but they moved to England. There are no baptism records for any children in Greenock. The Father was a ship master and away at sea for months at a time so not surprising that a younger son was born back in Greenock where his Mother's family lived. The above entries may be a "red herring"!! But worth noting. I never ignore coincidences, they just might be the people I'm looking for. Good Hunting Rod McPherson Victoria Australia -------------------------------------------------- From: <S18309@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:19 AM To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > Hello everyone, > > I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - > Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. > Haven't > been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert > Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova > Scotia when > he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the > present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly > more > about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Marie Spears > > > In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: > > Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which > should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, > But > I > believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been > stationed > around there. > Michael > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell > <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Sorry those names do not ring any bells. >> >> My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth > of >> my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His > father >> was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the > Church >> Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( >> >> Colin. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: michael paton >> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> >> >> Collin >> I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. >> I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE >> PATON >> and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to > know >> if >> George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that > far >> back. >> Michael Paton >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au >> >wrote: >> >> > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my >> own >> > question. >> > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number > of >> > where she lived. >> > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h > 15m >> > that I realised. >> > >> > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) >> > >> > Colin. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Colin Liddell >> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM >> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> > >> > >> > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an >> > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's >> People. >> > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the >> column >> > "Where and When Died" is the following. >> > 1880 >> > February >> > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. >> > 8h PM >> > 5 >> > >> > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I >> guess >> > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. >> > The death above hers has, >> > 2h PM >> > 1 >> > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about >> > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. >> > >> > Colin >> > >>

Hi Marie Forgot to mention, the four children were baptised in the Church of Scotland. Regards Rod McPherson -------------------------------------------------- From: <S18309@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:19 AM To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > Hello everyone, > > I have been trying to find out more about my husbands gggrandfather - > Alexander Spears. We know he was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1786. > Haven't > been able to find a birth/baptism certificate. His father was Robert > Spears and his mum was Elizabeth Sweet. He and family went to Nova > Scotia when > he was between 10 and 20 years old. We know the history from then to the > present. Would like to find out his religion in Scotland and possibly > more > about his parents. If any one can help, I would be most grateful. > > Regards, > Marie Spears > > > In a message dated 2/17/2010 1:28:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > caplid@optusnet.com.au writes: > > Michael, have you tried looking for the military records for George which > should tell you where he enlisted and possibly other details? > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael paton > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details > > > Thanks for the reply Collin. These people were in Northumber, England, > But > I > believe George was a Sgt in the Royal Artillery and may have been > stationed > around there. > Michael > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Colin Liddell > <caplid@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > >> Michael, >> >> Sorry those names do not ring any bells. >> >> My LIDDELL line comes from Stirlingshire and I am only back to the birth > of >> my gg grandfather James a tailor who was born 14th February 1808. His > father >> was there for the conception and the registration of the birth in the > Church >> Register and then disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again.{;-( >> >> Colin. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: michael paton >> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> >> >> Collin >> I think your right, at least that would be my opinion. >> I have a question for you. Do you have a marriage between a GEORGE >> PATON >> and ELIZABETH LIDDLE 1785 If this is part of your family I'd like to > know >> if >> George was a soldier and exchange information. I'm hoping you are that > far >> back. >> Michael Paton >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au >> >wrote: >> >> > Just looked at another death registration and find I can answer my >> own >> > question. >> > The 8h PM means 8pm and the number under that was the street number > of >> > where she lived. >> > It was not till I looked at another two where they had 7h 30m and 2h > 15m >> > that I realised. >> > >> > If I am wrong about this, I am happy to be told.{;-) >> > >> > Colin. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Colin Liddell >> > To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:43 PM >> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Death registration Details >> > >> > >> > I am hoping someone on this List is able to explain an item on an >> > extraction of a Death Certificate/Registration from Scotland's >> People. >> > On my gg grandmother's death certificate/registration, in the >> column >> > "Where and When Died" is the following. >> > 1880 >> > February >> > Sixteenth, the next part is my guess as it is not real clear. >> > 8h PM >> > 5 >> > >> > The first three are simple, the year, month and day. The next I >> guess >> > pertains to the time of day but the next has me beat. >> > The death above hers has, >> > 2h PM >> > 1 >> > Can someone please explain to someone who does not know much about >> > Scottish death registrations, what the two lines mean. >> > >> > Colin >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >