Hi Katie and others, I have already acquired 2 census for James Anderson one 644/03 has James born England so that ruled him out. Bought another one for Jas Anderson 644/04 and he has a father in law with him names James Hall so ruled that one out. Seem to just be stuck on this family and not getting anywhere but sure going thru the credits. Thanks anyway. Kind regards, Colleen

Colleen - a good way to save on SP credits when searching the census, is to find a place that has Ancestry (your local family history society and often public libraries have it available free of charge), and narrow down the search first. Then when you have the exact reference, go to SP for the digital copy of the right census page. Sandra. -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Covacich Sent: Monday, 26 July 2010 11:01 AM To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Anderson query Hi Katie and others, I have already acquired 2 census for James Anderson one 644/03 has James born England so that ruled him out. Bought another one for Jas Anderson 644/04 and he has a father in law with him names James Hall so ruled that one out. Seem to just be stuck on this family and not getting anywhere but sure going thru the credits. Thanks anyway. Kind regards, Colleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have had a great time on SPeople but have a query after seeming to use a lot of credits and not getting far. I am trying to trace James ANDERSON who married Jean Munro Aug 1873 Glasgow. Jean had been living with John Harris who died 1872 and they had a child Janet Harris Munro b. 1870 Glasgow. James ANDERSON (died 1883 to 1917) and Jean Munro (she died 1917 Calton Glasgow) then had the following children all born Glasgow - Rebecca Anderson b. 1871 Mary Johnston Anderson b. 1874 (died young?) Margaret Anderson b. 1875 William Anderson b. 1877 Jessie Anderson 1881 John Anderson b. 1883 (all worked out from the 1881 census) In the 1881 census Rebecca is 10 yrs old, born Glasgow, yet I cannot find her on the Latter day saints site. Margaret is 6yrs, William is 4yrs, and Jessie is 3 yrs. It also names Jane Anderson, Daughter, 14 yrs old born Glasgow. Who is Jane - is this Janet Harris Munro? When the mother dies in 1917 the informant is her Son, John Munro at 212 Duke Street. A researcher gave me this years ago. Is he wrong and shud it be John Anderson not Munro. WHAT IS the best way to find out more about all of them. I would like to know if all of them married, and death of course. Anderson is I would think a common name so do I go for a census not knowing where in Glasgow, and also if a daughter marries, when she dies is she recorded as both married Surname and also under her Maiden name as a separate entry. Or am I better to try for death certificates but in maiden name or unknown married names. Would welcome some advice as seem to be going round and round. Thanks Colleen

Oh dear, Colleen But very understandable. That's why a census Index would be such a help to rule all these out before buying the vaguely possibles on SP. Essential, even. As I say, I hope others can help you further. Enjoy the trail Katie -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Covacich Sent: maandag 26 juli 2010 3:01 To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Anderson query Hi Katie and others, I have already acquired 2 census for James Anderson one 644/03 has James born England so that ruled him out. Bought another one for Jas Anderson 644/04 and he has a father in law with him names James Hall so ruled that one out. Seem to just be stuck on this family and not getting anywhere but sure going thru the credits. Thanks anyway. Kind regards, Colleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen I don't think you mentioned the parents' birthplaces, but I forgot to mention that on the 1891 ancestry index for the family I mentioned, birthplaces for James & Jeanie are transcribed as Edinbors & Paisley, whereas I saw that it gave Glasgow and Paisley for James & Jane respectively in 1881. This would seem to throw the cat among the pigeons but I wouldn't rule them out altogether. I did say transcription could be idiosyncratic and 'Edinbors' could well be an example of this. And to the list: my apologies for not snipping unnecessary text from my last message. Katie -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Katie de Haan Sent: zondag 25 juli 2010 7:39 - Scotlands people Hello Colleen It might help you to find out more from the census index of as many years as possible if you are to have some chance of homing in on the right records on SP without spending so many credits. For example, the Ancestry index, though their transcription can be idiosyncratic to put it mildly. 1891 There's a James Anderson and wife Jeanie 46 with what sounds like a similar family in Tylefield Street Glasgow St Thomas in 1891, his age 57 and birthplace 'Edinbors, Edinboroshire'. hers 46 Paisley.. Daughters Rebaca (!) and Jessie are the right age, and there is a 4 year old James who would not have been around for the 1881. Could be them.

Hello Colleen It might help you to find out more from the census index of as many years as possible if you are to have some chance of homing in on the right records on SP without spending so many credits. For example, the Ancestry index, though their transcription can be idiosyncratic to put it mildly. Hopefully, some of the family history societies may have CDs with BMDs etc which may be useful if you have a whole family in the area. And of course this is not the only Anderson family in Glasgow. Sometimes, if you're lucky, a daughter will be staying with her parents under her married name. The reason for this will not always be a happy one, but at this remove it can be handy for us. 1891 There's a James Anderson and wife Jeanie 46 with what sounds like a similar family in Tylefield Street Glasgow St Thomas in 1891, his age 57 and birthplace 'Edinbors, Edinboroshire'. hers 46 Paisley.. Daughters Rebaca (!) and Jessie are the right age, and there is a 4 year old James who would not have been around for the 1881. Could be them. Several other Rebeccas showing the married name staying with parents but wrong dad. No clear 1901 entry for the family seen yet but there is a Rebecca Anderson with husband and daughter Hendry who are not accounted for in the earlier census records with father. Might be worth considering even though the age is a little out - examples enough of women lopping years off their age to meet their younger husband. I'm afraid I can't look any further now but others on the list may be more helpful. There did seem to be someone by the name of Gregory with a tree containing what looked like this family. No guarantees though - or you may already be in touch. HTH Katie de Haan -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Covacich Sent: zondag 25 juli 2010 22:04 To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Anderson query - Scotlands people I have had a great time on SPeople but have a query after seeming to use a lot of credits and not getting far. I am trying to trace James ANDERSON who married Jean Munro Aug 1873 Glasgow. Jean had been living with John Harris who died 1872 and they had a child Janet Harris Munro b. 1870 Glasgow. James ANDERSON (died 1883 to 1917) and Jean Munro (she died 1917 Calton Glasgow) then had the following children all born Glasgow - Rebecca Anderson b. 1871 Mary Johnston Anderson b. 1874 (died young?) Margaret Anderson b. 1875 William Anderson b. 1877 Jessie Anderson 1881 John Anderson b. 1883 (all worked out from the 1881 census) In the 1881 census Rebecca is 10 yrs old, born Glasgow, yet I cannot find her on the Latter day saints site. Margaret is 6yrs, William is 4yrs, and Jessie is 3 yrs. It also names Jane Anderson, Daughter, 14 yrs old born Glasgow. Who is Jane - is this Janet Harris Munro? When the mother dies in 1917 the informant is her Son, John Munro at 212 Duke Street. A researcher gave me this years ago. Is he wrong and shud it be John Anderson not Munro. WHAT IS the best way to find out more about all of them. I would like to know if all of them married, and death of course. Anderson is I would think a common name so do I go for a census not knowing where in Glasgow, and also if a daughter marries, when she dies is she recorded as both married Surname and also under her Maiden name as a separate entry. Or am I better to try for death certificates but in maiden name or unknown married names. Would welcome some advice as seem to be going round and round. Thanks Colleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joe, I got the same and I am sure she will be highly embarrassed, I also have her email too.. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Hay" <jphay@hotmail.com> To: "RENFREW County list" <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Off Topic ...but vital. Please read if you know Jean Old on this list. > > This is a warning! > > A hacker MAY have acquired the contacts for LIST MEMBER JEAN OLD. > > I received a suspicious email, supposedly from Jean, asking for money. > > I had another friend who had this happen with her contacts and I received > a similar email request. > > > > This is the subject: Terrible Situation - Urgent Help Needed !!!! > > > This is the letter: > > I'm writing this with tears in my eye, my family and I came down here to > Malaga, Spain for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the > park of the hotel where we stayed, all cash, credit card and cell were > stolen off us at GUN POINT but luckily for us we still have our passports > with us. > > > We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping > issues at all and our flight leaves today but we're having problems > settling the hotel bills, and the hotel manager won't let us leave until > we settle the bills, I'm freaked out at the moment and wondering if you > could help us with a quick loan, I promise I'll refund it once we get > home. Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the > bills. > > > Thanks > -- > Jean > NAMES I AM SEARCHING MCSHANE WELSH VANCE LYNCH ONEIL CHRISTIE > RAFFERTY,MCCONNELL TACKNEY BROGAN MCHALE THORNTON COYLE > MULHEARN MCGURK AND HALF OF SCOTLAND LOL > > > DO NOT use her email address to try & contact her or you could be hacked > too! > > > > Eventually someone close to Jean will know that she is not stranded in > Spain & alert her. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you for that advice, fortunately we have antivirus software on all of our computers including a firewall.  I hope the listers will take your advice and not mine. Regards,   Sandy (Glentrool, formerly Tasmania & Ladysmith NSW) ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 24 July, 2010 9:45:22 Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] Off Topic ...but vital. Please read if you knowJean Old on this list. Sorry to say Sandy But that is an urban myth and does not work It could lead some into a false sense of security The best advice is good anti virus, updated daily and *never* click executable links in emails that you are not 100% sure where they came from or open unsolicited attachments Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) I had an email that suggested a few years back that you should have in your contacts list the email address aaaaaaaaa@aaa.aaa and this might stop hackers from accessing your list. Sandy (Glentrool) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to say Sandy But that is an urban myth and does not work It could lead some into a false sense of security The best advice is good anti virus, updated daily and *never* click executable links in emails that you are not 100% sure where they came from or open unsolicited attachments Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) I had an email that suggested a few years back that you should have in your contacts list the email address aaaaaaaaa@aaa.aaa and this might stop hackers from accessing your list. Sandy (Glentrool)

I also rec'd a similar email, but it was from a yahoo group list! Thanks again, Roxanne Joe Hay wrote: >This is a warning! > >A hacker MAY have acquired the contacts for LIST MEMBER JEAN OLD. > >I received a suspicious email, supposedly from Jean, asking for money. > > I had another friend who had this happen with her contacts and I received a similar email request. > > > >This is the subject: Terrible Situation - Urgent Help Needed !!!! > > > This is the letter: > >I'm writing this with tears in my eye, my family and I came down here to Malaga, Spain for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed, all cash, credit card and cell were stolen off us at GUN POINT but luckily for us we still have our passports with us. > > >We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves today but we're having problems settling the hotel bills, and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills, I'm freaked out at the moment and wondering if you could help us with a quick loan, I promise I'll refund it once we get home. Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the bills. > > >Thanks > >

I had an email that suggested a few years back that you should have in your contacts list the email address     aaaaaaaaa@aaa.aaa   and this might stop hackers from accessing your list.  Sandy  (Glentrool) ________________________________ From: Joe Hay <jphay@hotmail.com> To: RENFREW County list <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 24 July, 2010 7:46:26 Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Off Topic ...but vital. Please read if you know Jean Old on this list. This is a warning! A hacker MAY have acquired the contacts for LIST MEMBER JEAN OLD. I received a suspicious email, supposedly from Jean, asking for money. I had another friend who had this happen with her contacts and I received a similar email request. This is the subject:  Terrible Situation - Urgent Help Needed !!!! This is the letter: I'm writing this with tears in my eye, my family and I came down here to Malaga, Spain for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed, all cash, credit card and cell were stolen off  us at GUN POINT but luckily for us we still have our passports with us. We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves today but we're having problems settling the hotel bills, and the hotel  manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills, I'm freaked out at the moment and wondering if you could help us with a quick loan, I promise I'll refund it once we get home. Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the bills. Thanks -- Jean NAMES I AM SEARCHING MCSHANE WELSH VANCE LYNCH ONEIL CHRISTIE RAFFERTY,MCCONNELL TACKNEY BROGAN MCHALE THORNTON COYLE MULHEARN MCGURK AND HALF OF SCOTLAND LOL DO NOT use her email address to try & contact her or you could be hacked too! Eventually someone close to Jean will know that she is not stranded in Spain & alert her.                         _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a warning! A hacker MAY have acquired the contacts for LIST MEMBER JEAN OLD. I received a suspicious email, supposedly from Jean, asking for money. I had another friend who had this happen with her contacts and I received a similar email request. This is the subject: Terrible Situation - Urgent Help Needed !!!! This is the letter: I'm writing this with tears in my eye, my family and I came down here to Malaga, Spain for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed, all cash, credit card and cell were stolen off us at GUN POINT but luckily for us we still have our passports with us. We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves today but we're having problems settling the hotel bills, and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills, I'm freaked out at the moment and wondering if you could help us with a quick loan, I promise I'll refund it once we get home. Please save me from the embarrassment of not being able to cover the bills. Thanks -- Jean NAMES I AM SEARCHING MCSHANE WELSH VANCE LYNCH ONEIL CHRISTIE RAFFERTY,MCCONNELL TACKNEY BROGAN MCHALE THORNTON COYLE MULHEARN MCGURK AND HALF OF SCOTLAND LOL DO NOT use her email address to try & contact her or you could be hacked too! Eventually someone close to Jean will know that she is not stranded in Spain & alert her. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

Cheers Mark You've done something I've thought of doing but never got round to.  The problem is once one is au-fait with it you forget that others are just starting out and could do with advice on how to use SP without using up their precious credits unnecessarily. BY THE WAY a little known and little advertised fact is that if you live in Scotland you can get SP Vouchers at a discount through your local library. Have look at this URL - http://www.eastrenfrewshire.gov.uk/heritage/heritage_family_history/voucher_scheme.htm - it is for East Renfrew-shire but, I am informed, applies equally to other local authorities. Regards Les

Thanks again to all who replied. Irene also but once again I did wonder what URL is? Just back from my hospital visit and can't wait to get on with things again over the weekend. Regards, Colleen

Thank you to all who replied. It has been a very interesting time. I have learned so much even though I have been researching since 1990 (the old way of getting the original films out thru the Morman church and spending thousands of hours recording my people). I am unable to do this anymore however. Excuse my ignorance but what does (sic) mean? I find it quite incredible that James Allan McMillan marries first to Elizabeth Munro then after her death marries Margaret Campbell and calls one of their children Elizabeth Munro McMillan who apparently marries Robert Waddell. I wonder how many wives today would allow that! or am I wrong? I think I will wait till someone visits me who owns a credit card and give them the cash so I can have a wonderful time! on Scotlands people. It was very helpful to have explained abt 6 pounds being abt $12.74 NZ and this would buy 90 credits. If I have it right 12 credits would buy a death and marriage certificate. So how much for a copy of a census page? Thank you to all the people who have helped - it has been really appreciated. Colleen in sunny NZ with the odd rain cloud. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RosalindtheFair@aol.com> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] SCT-RENFREW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 58 Dear Colleen I recommend getting the death certificate as it has a lot of information, especially James's parents if you don't know them. This can be done relatively cheaply through _www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk_ (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) I looked up the marriage for you 1888 Robert Timpnay (sic) Waddell married Elizabeth Munro McMillan Glasgow Lanark You would have to purchase 30 credits at £6, and 6 each would get you the death and marriage certificates (1 for the look-up and 1 to see the certificate). Best wishes Clare in cloudy but still rainless Oxford In a message dated 22/07/2010 08:16:22 GMT Daylight Time, sct-renfrew-request@rootsweb.com writes: James death certificate has the informant as Robert Waddell as son in law, so no idea who he marries. Had a look on the IGI but could not see it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James Allan McMillan's parents are Neil McMillan, Clothlapper and Jessie Allan. If you see a connection please let me know. Thanks Colleen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McMillan" <dmcduke@comcast.net> To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-RENFREW] census - Ancestry query > Do you know James' parents? > > Dave McMillan > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Colleen Covacich" <paisleycolleen@xtra.co.nz> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:57 PM > To: <sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] census - Ancestry query > >> Many thanks to all who replied re my query. From all the information >> given to me I can now say that James Allan McMillan did marry again to >> Margaret Campbell in 1850 in Gorbals, Lanark. I had only looked at the >> Paisley census index so had missed that. >> I now know that James McMillan died 1888 Paisley, - >> and his new wife Margaret (Campbell) McMillan died 1886 Paisley. >> children born to them in Paisley - Jessie b. 1856, James 1857, and Ann >> b. 1859. >> >> James death certificate has the informant as Robert Waddell as son in >> law, >> so no idea who he marries. Had a look on the IGI but could not see it. >> >> I really appreciate so much all the help given as it has given me so much >> more information. Just one query - can you look this up on Ancestry or >> did you go to another source. Would be delighted to hear. Thanks so >> much. Colleen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-RENFREW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen - Scotlands People is well worth buying credits for. Recently I downloaded 6 certificates/census printouts for various family members. The total cost was $15 Australia. What I've found is that if you don't use up all your credits in the time given, they are not lost but held back until you next buy credits. The remaining credits from the first order is then added to your new ones. Very thrifty - (and dare I say, a very Scottish thing to do). Sandra. -----Original Message----- From: sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-renfrew-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Covacich Sent: Saturday, 24 July 2010 5:04 AM To: sct-renfrew@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Ancestry query - McMillan Thank you to all who replied. It has been a very interesting time. I have learned so much even though I have been researching since 1990 (the old way of getting the original films out thru the Morman church and spending thousands of hours recording my people). I am unable to do this anymore however. Excuse my ignorance but what does (sic) mean? I find it quite incredible that James Allan McMillan marries first to Elizabeth Munro then after her death marries Margaret Campbell and calls one of their children Elizabeth Munro McMillan who apparently marries Robert Waddell. I wonder how many wives today would allow that! or am I wrong? I think I will wait till someone visits me who owns a credit card and give them the cash so I can have a wonderful time! on Scotlands people. It was very helpful to have explained abt 6 pounds being abt $12.74 NZ and this would buy 90 credits. If I have it right 12 credits would buy a death and marriage certificate. So how much for a copy of a census page? Thank you to all the people who have helped - it has been really appreciated. Colleen in sunny NZ with the odd rain cloud.

Hello Colleen, The Latin "thus" - " to call attention to something anomalous or erroneous in the original or to guard against the supposition of misquotation " (SOED) Regards, Jim On 23 July 2010 20:03, Colleen Covacich <paisleycolleen@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > however. > > Excuse my ignorance but what does (sic) mean?

Dear Colleen "Sic" means "thus" in Latin. I thought the name looked odd so I added (sic) to indicate that is how it was written Clare In a message dated 23/07/2010 08:13:20 GMT Daylight Time, sct-renfrew-request@rootsweb.com writes: Excuse my ignorance but what does (sic) mean? Colleen in sunny NZ > with the odd rain cloud. >

Morning all from a very warm and sunny Scottish Highlands. In answer to the query and to confirm what others have said. On the Scotlands' People website (the government run one) you buy credits in blocks of 30 each block costing £6. There is no extra charge if you pay by credit rather than debit card which is quite unusual nowadays. You don’t need to buy credits to do searches but you do to view the results. The one partial exception is wills where you will see a list of all the relevant wills but not their contents. My advice is to use SP in conjunction with Family Search or another free source in order to try and narrow down as much as possible the potential for wrong entries coming up in your results. The Scotlands People (SP) gives access to all birth, death and marriage entries from 1855 but you cannot download any of the more recent images which may still cover living people. The search result will still give you details of the entry etc so you can order it up from Register house. Recently I did a search of a well known TV and musical actor from Glasgow now living in America whom I understand to be a distant cousin and identified his parents marriage and his and his father's birth details in seconds but will wait until I am next in New Register House before viewing the actual entries. SP also gives access to all the OPR records but remember "death" entries before 1855 are few and far between and are more often than not Mortcloth journal entries for the deceased's family renting the parish shroud for the funeral. Similarly the detail on baptisms (because it is not births which are recorded pre 1855) and marriages varies hugely. We forget the purpose of those registers was not to provide genealogical information centuries later to potential descendants. It was to record the damnation or otherwise of people by the church for having children in or out with marriage and to extract cash for recognising irregular marriages which were the norm. A great many ordinary people simply could not afford to pay the fees to record entries or moved around so often that they never got round to registering things. It is generally the settled, well behaved residents of the parish who find their way into the OPR. In many parts of the country, mothers were considered irrelevant so for example in large parts of the Highlands, the mother of a child is never mentioned in the baptism records, a huge problem for those of us with Caithness blood. Some OPR detail both parents, father's occupation, godparents/witness details and where the family lived. Others like most Caithness ones simply list the child of the father who lived in a certain place and the date of baptism. A great many do not detail the date of birth though generally birth was only a few days before baptism. The date occurring in Family Search is usually the baptism date. SP also lets you search up to the 1901 census. For all of these to see the result costs 1 credit per page of results so if your search is too wide, it might cost several credits to view all the pages before you can properly decide which image to purchase a download for. In places like Glasgow it can be a nightmare because families moved around parishes regularly or indeed the parishes simply moved as the city grew and there was a need to create more parishes. In addition remember places like Partick, Scotstoun, Rutherglen and Renfrew etc were separate towns until just after 1900 even though most are now correctly or incorrectly thought of as part of the City of Glasgow. When you decide to select an entry to look at, it will cost you 5 credits. That will then offer you the opportunity to open a link and on doing so my advice is to save the open document to your PC first and then print it out. If it turns out not to be the correct entry, firstly think about mentioning its details on places like the relevant Rootsweb list or some of the free search sites which rely on people sharing details of certificates which are usually not the ones they wanted. At all costs do not click the button for previous or next image. This will not take you back to the list so you can choose again. It will show the previous or next page on the actual register to the one you were just looking at! Unless there is a faster way I have not found, you need to go into the previous searches index and click to open the search again but because you have already paid your 1,2 etc credits, you will have free access in the future to the results of that search again. Sometimes going back after several years can be useful. If you are searching an unusual surname, it can be cost effective to try a wide search in the hope you might find other family members in the resulting list. This is especially the case with the wills search. As I said searching the wills index is free and if for example you only type in a surname, you should get a list of All wills for people with that name. For completeness I might add that the list also contains all those for whom a court has awarded Confirmation (Probate in the English world) so many of those listed will be people who had property but died intestate, i.e. without a will. Some people will also feature several times. If you see the word "Eik" that means additional estate has been identified and the family/executor has required to return to court to get additional authority to ingather this extra estate. Occasionally it can also be used to correct an error in relation to property, e.g. where some of the deceased's property listed in his estate was in fact that of someone else. When I do a will search, I usually cut and paste the entire results page(s) into a new Word document and save it. I promise in the years ahead you will go back and look at it time and time again. Last week looking at one for some ancestors in the 1600s in Edinburgh with an unusual surname led me to a published book which mentions generations of the family and the estate they owned just outside Edinburgh. It will also hopefully confirm another 4 generations in that line of my maternal ancestry taking them back to the reign of James V. Looking at Wills/Testamentary records is expensive. They are £5 per page. However in some cases they can give stunning results. I have downloaded wills for ancestors in Glasgow from 1610 and 1626 and the latter was unusual because it was the wife's will. So really Scotlands' People can be fantastic and quick but unless you plan its use carefully and are realistic about what it offers, it can prove costly and frustrating. Cheers Mark