I'm moving to another part of Scotland. Thanks

Thelma, The Broomielaw was/is a quay on the north bank of the River Clyde near central Glasgow (quite a long way upriver from Renfrew). In my youth it was the quay that serviced the Irish ferries and also the paddle steamers that took day trippers "doon the watter". All the best Jim in sunny Western Australia, the state with the climate Queensland wishes it had! <g> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma" <mrbirrell@bigpond.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Maltman - Birrell - Crawford > John BIRRELL, one of the Birrell family out of Fife, worked in Glasgow and > d.c.1900. James BIRRELL left from the port of Broomielaw, which is in > Renfrew if I am reading it right.

Hello, I am re-posting my inquiry in hopes that someone may have information on the birth and Parents of: John Boyd, b:ca 1815 in possibly Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland. He M: Mary Guthrie, b:Oct 1829, Paisley, d/o: William GUTHRIE & Mary NEIL. Who is the correct Wm. Guthrie and correct Mary Neil? There are several listed in records. John Boyd & Mary Guthrie had several children in Paisley, including their eldest, Mary Boyd, b:Oct 1850, and immigrated to Grantham, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada between 1868- and 1870. They appeared on the 1871 Ontario, Can. Census in Grantham, and then immigrated to Rhode Island, (RI), USA and were on the 1880 RI Census in Providence, Lincoln Co. RI. with four children, not including Mary. It is believed that Mary Boyd, dau, married: my Great - Grandfather: Alexander Clark, b:ca 1844, ? Scotland. NO MARRIAGE RECORD found in Ontario, Can. Archives. Who are his Parents? They had a daughter: "little Mary Clark, b:10 Oct 1872, Grantham, Lincoln co. Ontario, Canada. We believe that they appear on the 1880 Massachusetts (MA), USA Census in Attleboro, Bristol County, MA. with three children in house hold: 1: Mary, age 7; 2: William, age 4 (believed to be my Grandfather), and 3: "Other: male, John, age 1 year, born in Canada of Scottish Parentage. These two areas: MA/RI share common boundaries. What happened to these people after 1880? Known facts: My Grandfather, William Alexander Clark, worked in MA. in 1907; also married: 8 May 1907, in St. Joseph's Cathedral, Buffalo, Erie Co. NY, USA. to: Mary Cecelia DOYLE, b:Nov 1874 Worcester, MA. They had one known son: My Father: William Albert Clark, b:23 June 1908. These three removed to Waterbury, CT. USA by 1920 CT. Census. and later to Devon, Milford, New Haven County, CT. What happened to Alexander Clark and Mary Boyd? Who was John Clark and what happened to him? Did "little Mary Clark, dau..stay in MA? Did she happen to have a full given name of: Mary Elizabeth? Was she called "Lizzie?" and did she happen to marry a man called: "Everett LaBonte? Does anyone have any information or connections to these names above? I appreciate any replies. After 16 April, please use new EMail address: bernied@ns.sympatico.ca Thank you. Regards, Barb --- Barbara Clark --- lorieclark@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

Hi List, David Irvine m.Janet Mactaggart ,Bothwell,Scot.1850.Trying to find info on parents of both.Any ass,t welcome. Tia Blair in Canada

Hello all, I am seeking any information at all on Elizabeth KILDAY m. William KIRKWOOD at Calmlachie, Glasgow on 16 July 1875. Their son Robert was killed in WW1 age 34 and left a widow Agnes Spiers KIRKWOOD. And on Alexander and Margaret M KIRKWOOD and their son Ramsay Borthwick KIRKWOOD who was killed in WW1 at age 18. Any links - any where? Many thanks in advance Ron Blair Warragul Australia

This is a long shot but I'm wondering if someone with the 41/51 census could look up a family in Greenock Surname MELVIN. If given I'm looking for a child WILLIAM MELVIN who would be around 2 in 1841 and 10 - 12 in 1851. Any assistance is appreciated Bernie Quigley Victoria BC Can.

COLE, THORBURN, MCWHINNIE, SMITH, WHARRIE, GREIG, STEELE, WHITE, ADAMS, DUKE, HALL, MACLEAN These are names that interest me to varying degrees. If you have any connection, please let me know. Cheers........Marg Ontario, Canada

I find my research leads me to other areas of Scotland. Thanks.

Thelma, Welcome to the List, and I hope that someone can help. Unfortunately, I don't have any connections to the names you list and so can't help you at this time. However, a gentle suggestion: When replying to a List message, please snip out all the material not pertinent to your request or comment, as I have done below in replying to your very long posting. Some members pay the minute for their e-mail and such long postings are a problem to them. Besides, it adds clutter for everyone and may interfere with the clarity of your own request. :-) I hope that your research will be extended by other List members. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada In a message dated 24/3/03 10:02:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:20:06 +1000 > From: "Thelma" <mrbirrell@bigpond.com> > To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Renfrew] Maltman - Birrell - Crawford > > I have just joined this mail list after many years of research.... > The web pages as under contain quite a few Scottish ancestors. > I have much to share with anyone who has links.... > Sincerely in Searching..Thelma (Bostock)Birrell in Queensland. > > John BIRRELL, one of the Birrell family out of Fife, worked in Glasgow and > d.c.1900. James BIRRELL left from the port of Broomielaw, which is in > Renfrew if I am reading it right. > Isabella CRAWFORD married John McKAY at Glasgow in early 1800's. > MALTMAN family had links to SHEARER JAMIESON and a host of other names and > lived at Renfrew 1800-1850 is in the web page as under > > Irish-Scots - http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html > Crawford/Sarkies etc.... www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/crawfor2.htm > > Birrell-Kirk - www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html > > Montgomery - Down - Birrell www.users.bigpond.com/mrbirrell/ > Cox-Upjohn - www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ > Bostock-Rafferty-Rhodes - http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm > Stokes-Yates-Owen - www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ > Pour a cup of Kindness and Sweeten with a Smile. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <mrbirrell@bigpond.com> > Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: > > You have added to the subscriber list of: > > SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > the following mail address: > > mrbirrell@bigpond.com > > By default, copies of > > > or your verification, a transcript of the original subscription > request is included below. > -- > [snip] > > >subscribe >

I have just joined this mail list after many years of research.... The web pages as under contain quite a few Scottish ancestors. I have much to share with anyone who has links.... Sincerely in Searching..Thelma (Bostock)Birrell in Queensland. John BIRRELL, one of the Birrell family out of Fife, worked in Glasgow and d.c.1900. James BIRRELL left from the port of Broomielaw, which is in Renfrew if I am reading it right. Isabella CRAWFORD married John McKAY at Glasgow in early 1800's. MALTMAN family had links to SHEARER JAMIESON and a host of other names and lived at Renfrew 1800-1850 is in the web page as under Irish-Scots - http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html Crawford/Sarkies etc.... www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/crawfor2.htm Birrell-Kirk - www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html Montgomery - Down - Birrell www.users.bigpond.com/mrbirrell/ Cox-Upjohn - www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ Bostock-Rafferty-Rhodes - http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm Stokes-Yates-Owen - www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ Pour a cup of Kindness and Sweeten with a Smile. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: <mrbirrell@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 9:00 PM Subject: Re: You have added to the subscriber list of: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com the following mail address: mrbirrell@bigpond.com By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned. Welcome to the SCT-RENFREW mailing list! You are currently subscribed in "mail mode", which means that you will receive every posting made to SCT-RENFREW as a separate e-mail. The directions on how to change to digest mode are given below. 1. How to unsubscribe. Send a message to SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. 2. How to subscribe. Whatever you just did worked, or you'd not be getting this message. But for future reference (for instance, if your subscription is cancelled for whatever reason and you want to resubscribe), just send the command "subscribe" to SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com. 3. How to change to digest mode (several postings are combined and sent to you together as a single large message). There are two steps. First, send the command "unsubscribe" to SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com to discontinue mail mode. Second, send the command "subscribe" to SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com to start receiving digests. 4. How to change to NOMAIL mode. There is no formal NOMAIL mode. All you have to do is follow the directions above and unsubscribe when you want the messages to stop, and then when you want them to start again, simply subscribe again. 5. If you'd like to post a message so everyone on the mailing list receives it, just send it to SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com. It will then be sent on to everyone in both mail and digest mode. You don't need to send it explicitly to both. For your verification, a transcript of the original subscription request is included below. -- >From mrbirrell@bigpond.com Mon Mar 24 04:00:03 2003 >Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.16.34]) > by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2OB03qZ010913 > for <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@lists5.rootsweb.com>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:00:03 -0700 >Received: from mta06bw.bigpond.com (mta06bw.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) > by mail.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h2OB01Sd014571 > for <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:00:02 -0700 >Received: from matt ([144.135.24.81]) by mta06bw.bigpond.com > (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta06bw Jul 16 2002 22:47:55) > with SMTP id HC92J300.3AQ for > <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:59:27 +1000 >Received: from 144.139.132.127 ([144.139.132.127]) by bwmam05.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.2g 38/6935823); 24 Mar 2003 20:59:18 >Message-ID: <002301c2f1f4$7a9f9c30$7f848b90@matt> >From: "Thelma" <mrbirrell@bigpond.com> >To: <SCT-RENFREW-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Subject: >Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:59:35 +1000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > >subscribe > >

STEWART John born 1807 Irvine, Ayr. Ships carpenter. Married GALLOWAY Ann (born Ballantrae 1812) in 1831. Died 1883 Renfrew. Details sought for 11 children. All descendants of 1 child - David Galloway STEWART born 1845 who immigrated to Australia are known

Hi Wilma, I promised I'd look out for Lachlan Mcneil. I have found a reference to one but realise I could drive you nuts with continually finding the wrong one. What do you know about his likely date of birth, occupation, location and date of death. In other words what sightings do you have of him? Is he a rare name or are there loads of them out there? All I know so far is that he must have been old enough to produce a child of marriageable age in 1851 ie b 1831 or earlier, I assume he died before stat registration? Moira >> > **Desperately seeking information on his parents Lachlan McNeil/ > 1. Agnes McBride 2. Ann Brodie. If anyone has any information on these parents I would love to hear from you as they are my brick wall. > Regards > Wilma - Canada > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

John, There was a lot of movement between Ayrshire & Greenock for work in shipping - ships carpenters etc. I have Ayrshire Hunters who were worked in Greenock and returned to Ayrshire. Paisley is within easy reach of Ayrshire and Renfrewshire and Ayrshire have common boundaries. Regards Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: <campbell@timewarp.demon.co.uk> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Renfrew Churches > In message <00b301c2eeb4$5b09fb60$1fb28351@oemcomputer>, Brian Cave > <Beejaycave@btinternet.com> writes > > > >I wonder if someone could explain to a dumb Sassenach the terms High, Middle and > >Low Renfrew parish churches. > > I wonder if someone could also explain about demographics in the area. I > have an Elizabeth Reside WEIR b 7 Feb 1832 at Greenock, who was the > daughter of a Duncan WEIR who married Christina PHILIPS on 1 Sep 1823 at > the Low Church in Paisley. However Christina herself was christened at > the Middle Church on 8 Jan 1803, the daughter of David PHILIP and > Elizabeth RAESIDE. They married at the Low Church. Elizabeth was the > daughter of James RESIDE, but the only marriage I can find in the IGI is > at Stevenston, Ayr, when a James RESIDE married an ELizabeth SMITH on 21 > Jun 1775. Is this a likely candidate? > > John > -- > John Rouse > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Very many thanks for that Lois. I wonder if anyone can do the same for me for Paisley churches? Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois McNaught" <lois.mcnaught@cogeco.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com>; <beejaycave@btinternet.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Renfrew Churches > Hi Brian Charles, Ron, Julie et al, > > Low Church (or Laigh Kirk) was built in 1738 and is currently the Paisley > Arts Centre. A photo of it is at the following site: > > http://www.houston-menswear.co.uk/paisley/sightseeing.htm#Arts > > High Church, dating from 1750, was built at the highest part of town > (geological and geographical!) on Oakshawhead and is now known as the > Oakshaw Trinity Parish Church. See photos at: > > http://www.rpasmith.co.uk/paisley.htm > > http://www.geocities.com/mjjodoin/irreg.htm > > Now the Middle Church, I am a little unclear on. It is supposedly somewhere > in the middle of town above the Cross of Paisley. Perhaps someone else can > offer a more definitive location? > > Hope this helps - somewhat. > > Regards, > Lois McNaught > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > That helps a lot Julie, thanks. > > > > I had suggested in the question that it might be geographical, so that has > > now been confirmed, and I'm pleased not to have to dig out a hammer and > > cold chisel to discover the churches my forebears attended. :-) > > > > However I'm wondering if having admitted to being a Sassenach the Jocks > are > > giving me the run around <big grin> > > > > I had rather hoped that someone would give me more than a one word > answer - > > for instance which churches were (are) described under the three headings > in > > Renfrew/Paisley (did I mention that in the question?) so that I can > identify > > them on a map. > > > > Any help in this direction would be appreciated > > Cheers > > Brian > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > >

My Dunlop gggrandfather and his brother of Fenwick Ayrshire married the Lyon sisters of Neilston Renfrewshire in the 1840's. As my ggggrandfather John Dunlop was in the business of marketing buttermilk from his farm at Fenwick in Glasgow, I've always wondered if perhaps the Lyons were involved with him in a business sense. Jim Bundy ----- Original Message ----- From: "duncan malcolm" <duncanmalcolm@omne.uk.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Renfrew Churches > John, > > There was a lot of movement between Ayrshire & Greenock for work in > shipping - ships carpenters etc. > > I have Ayrshire Hunters who were worked in Greenock and returned to > Ayrshire. > > Paisley is within easy reach of Ayrshire and Renfrewshire and Ayrshire have > common boundaries. > > Regards > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <campbell@timewarp.demon.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Renfrew Churches > > > > In message <00b301c2eeb4$5b09fb60$1fb28351@oemcomputer>, Brian Cave > > <Beejaycave@btinternet.com> writes > > > > > >I wonder if someone could explain to a dumb Sassenach the terms High, > Middle and > > >Low Renfrew parish churches. > > > > I wonder if someone could also explain about demographics in the area. I > > have an Elizabeth Reside WEIR b 7 Feb 1832 at Greenock, who was the > > daughter of a Duncan WEIR who married Christina PHILIPS on 1 Sep 1823 at > > the Low Church in Paisley. However Christina herself was christened at > > the Middle Church on 8 Jan 1803, the daughter of David PHILIP and > > Elizabeth RAESIDE. They married at the Low Church. Elizabeth was the > > daughter of James RESIDE, but the only marriage I can find in the IGI is > > at Stevenston, Ayr, when a James RESIDE married an ELizabeth SMITH on 21 > > Jun 1775. Is this a likely candidate? > > > > John > > -- > > John Rouse > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > >

--=======3EFA831======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-28721EF4; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, Looking for help with the following death. Julia ETHELL (nee DUFF) born 1874. died 20 June 1941 Paisley, aged 67 years. Living at 8 Alice Street,Paisley.Married to William ETHELL. The parents of the above were Terence DUFF, Boiler Stoker (deceased) & Margaret DUFF (nee BROWN). Informant of the death was Kate ETHELL, daughter, 8 Alice Street,Paisley. The above info was extracted from the Death Cert . Could SKS tell me where Julia is likley to be buried and if there are any Monumental Inscriptions available for the cemetery's in Paisley. Trevor Kersley Easingwold,North Yorks. Web Page http://www.Dortmund.co.uk Researching: LILL.....Sheffield & Doncaster.Yks & Boston,Lincs. ROBERTS....Sheffield Yks & Llanrwst,Denbigshire. KERSLEY...Sheffield 1898+ & Winchester,Hampshire. GAMBLE...Helmsley & York ETHELL...Huttons Ambo & York REVIS... Westow & Malton. WAKE... Brandsby, Crayke & Stillington. --=======3EFA831======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-28721EF4 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.462 / Virus Database: 261 - Release Date: 13/03/2003 --=======3EFA831=======--

Hi List I'm looking for a connection between; John Taylor born about 1718 Greenock married to Ann McGilp born about 1722 Greenock and one of their daughters Margaret Taylor born 17 Jan 1753 Greenock who may have been married to John Lee / Lea on 6 June 1768 West Or Parish Greenock Regards Stuart

Glad to have been of assistance - however small Anne > Hi Anne > > You are a gem! I greatly appreciate your help and to receive a reply so > quickly is tremendous. Many, many thanks. > > Regards > Ron > > >

Hello Charles Don't worry, I have them all of the time. Regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chas & Ruth Houston" <charles.houston@virgin.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Renfrew Churches > Hello Ron, > > Re : Geological! or geographical - obviously it should have been > geographical. > > OOPs! ANOTHER senior moment ! > > Regards > > Charles > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/2003 > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

Hi Brian Charles, Ron, Julie et al, Low Church (or Laigh Kirk) was built in 1738 and is currently the Paisley Arts Centre. A photo of it is at the following site: http://www.houston-menswear.co.uk/paisley/sightseeing.htm#Arts High Church, dating from 1750, was built at the highest part of town (geological and geographical!) on Oakshawhead and is now known as the Oakshaw Trinity Parish Church. See photos at: http://www.rpasmith.co.uk/paisley.htm http://www.geocities.com/mjjodoin/irreg.htm Now the Middle Church, I am a little unclear on. It is supposedly somewhere in the middle of town above the Cross of Paisley. Perhaps someone else can offer a more definitive location? Hope this helps - somewhat. Regards, Lois McNaught ----- Original Message ----- > That helps a lot Julie, thanks. > > I had suggested in the question that it might be geographical, so that has > now been confirmed, and I'm pleased not to have to dig out a hammer and > cold chisel to discover the churches my forebears attended. :-) > > However I'm wondering if having admitted to being a Sassenach the Jocks are > giving me the run around <big grin> > > I had rather hoped that someone would give me more than a one word answer - > for instance which churches were (are) described under the three headings in > Renfrew/Paisley (did I mention that in the question?) so that I can identify > them on a map. > > Any help in this direction would be appreciated > Cheers > Brian > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >