I am new to the mailing list and to research in Scotland. I have the marriage record of my gggrandparents dated October of 1841 and it gives a street address for both of them. I'm assuming that the 1841 Census films are available for Paisley at the FHC. As I don't know exactly how big a task searching for them with their names and street name would be, would someone on the list advise me please. Thank you so much for any help you can give me.

Hi Kathy, I think you could be in luck having street names. There is a street index for the larger towns for each of the census years. Here are some of the films re the FHL catalog: Title Census of 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 : an index to streets of the larger cities of Scotland Authors Scotland. Census Office (Main Author) Note Location Film 1841 Census 1851 Census FHL BRITISH Film 104115 1861 Census FHL BRITISH Film 104116 1871 Census FHL BRITISH Film 104117 Hope this helps. Jim Bundy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <kathyshouse@mindspring.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1841 Census Search > I am new to the mailing list and to research in Scotland. I have the > marriage record of my gggrandparents dated October of 1841 and it gives a > street address for both of them. > > I'm assuming that the 1841 Census films are available for Paisley at the > FHC. As I don't know exactly how big a task searching for them with their > names and street name would be, would someone on the list advise me please. > > Thank you so much for any help you can give me. > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > >

Hello all, I am searching for Margaret Renfrew who married James Phillips c. 1780. They were likely married in Paisley Abbey and emigrated to Pennsylvania/Ohio c. 1780 +/-. Are there any Renfrew surname researchers out there? I am looking for the families of Margaret and James. It is said that she was from some sort of gentry and he was a tradesman who she married against her family's will. Thank you. April Dice Northern California

> From: Kathy <kathyshouse@mindspring.com> > I am new to the mailing list and to research in Scotland. I have the > marriage record of my gggrandparents dated October of 1841 and it gives a > street address for both of them. _______________ Hi Kathy, and welcome! Do say the names (surnames at the very least!) of your research! We are like a family here...and relish meeting possible cousins! Jean Brocklebank McGowan, McAulay, McLachlan, Brocklebank

Joan, I checked the MI's for Arthurlie Cemetery in Barrhead, there were no Stephen's listed (checked all spellings). There was only one entry that had a James Stephen, that was in Kilbarchan East Page 188 Entry 16 FS Jas STEPHEN wright, his heirs. 1789. As there are no other names and dates, 1789 is likely when the Lair was purchased. Julie Dufault Merrimack, NH, USA

Shirley, Thomas birth/christening may or may not have been recorded in the OPR's. The only reason I have my ggg-grandfather, Douglas Hunter's birth date is because his family bible has survived and been handed down. Might be worth checking the microfilm, but still no guarantee that it will be listed. I checked and found Thomas, wife and children in the 1880 US Census Census Place: Greenfield, Adair, Iowa Source: FHL Film 1254325 National Archives Film T9-0325 Page 84A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas COCHRANE Self M M W 49 SCO Occ: Laborer Fa: SCO Mo: SCO Sarah COCHRANE Wife F M W 45 OH Occ: Keeping House Fa: CT Mo: NY William R. COCHRANE Son M S W 24 IL Occ: County Surveyor Fa: SCO Mo: OH Frances E. COCHRANE Dau F S W 21 IA Occ: Dressmaker Fa: SCO Mo: OH Harry COCHRANE Son M S W 11 IA Occ: At School Fa: SCO Mo: OH George COCHRANE Son M S W 7 IA Occ: At School Fa: SCO If Thomas and his family came to the US in about 1844, the first US census he would be recorded in would be the 1850. If you have not checked any of the early US censuses, what you will find in the 1850 and 1860 census is Name, Age, Sex, Color, Occupation, Value-Real Estate, Value-Personal Property, Birthplace, Married in Year (this means if married in the census year), School in Year, Can Read or Write, Enumeration Date. Not a lot to go by, but can sometimes be enough to prove a bit, especially if you are looking for parents. The 1870 has basically the same information, but they also asked if parents were foreign born and if the person was eligible to vote. With the 1880 census, you start getting relationship to head of household (the US was 30 years behind Scotland in this) asks marital status, place of birth of parents, age prior to June 1st. Very little of the 1890 has survived, much to our dismay. It wasn't the fire that damaged the 1890 census, it was the water used to put the fire out. As this was pre-National Archives, there wasn't one group or agency to make sure that what could be salvaged, was. It isn't until the 1900 that you get more useful info, like month and year of birth, year of immigration, how long in the US and if Naturalized. If you are not near a library, society or regional National Archives to check the early censuses, you can get the microfilm from the LDS Family History Center or I can add it to my lookups when I go to the regional National Archives in Waltham, Massachusetts. As to finding Thomas' marriage, have you checked to see what sources are available? I checked www.vitalrec.com to see what was available for Births, Deaths and Marriages. I haven't done any research in New York. But this site can be a good place to start. I recommend that you check New York, then the county of Livingston, that is where Avon is located. I noted that this is a link to the Livingston County US GenWeb page and then from there a link for Avon. Might be able to find some useful information there or someone who can point you in the right direction. Good Luck, Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA

Pennie, If you are interested in an obituary, then you should check with the Watt Library in Greenock. The email address is library.watt@inverclyde.gov.uk , can't hurt to ask. Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA

Thanks... I'm afraid my ignorance of Scottish geography is showing.... >From: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico> >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Renfrew] AVINOU in Paisley or Duntocher?? >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:20:04 -0400 > >RE ---also- where is Duntocher? is that Renfrew or Lanark?? >Neither Kerri, it's in Dunbartonshire on the other side of the river Clyde >just north of Clydebank. >Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> >To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:57 PM >Subject: [Renfrew] AVINOU in Paisley or Duntocher?? > > > > I have a Matthew AVINOU who was a Labourer for ....??? and Balacava >at >65 > > George Street, Paisley.... > > > also- where is Duntocher? is that Renfrew or Lanark?? > > > TIA, > > Kerri > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

RE ---also- where is Duntocher? is that Renfrew or Lanark?? Neither Kerri, it's in Dunbartonshire on the other side of the river Clyde just north of Clydebank. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: [Renfrew] AVINOU in Paisley or Duntocher?? > I have a Matthew AVINOU who was a Labourer for ....??? and Balacava at 65 > George Street, Paisley.... > also- where is Duntocher? is that Renfrew or Lanark?? > TIA, > Kerri > > >

Are there business directories for Paisley from 1860?? I have a partial business name and an address, but only half of the name and was wondering if anyone can help me out ... I have a Matthew AVINOU who was a Labourer for ....??? and Balacava at 65 George Street, Paisley.... I'm trying to figure out the name of this business, and what kind of business it was...... also- where is Duntocher? is that Renfrew or Lanark?? one more question- How far is Beith from Paisley, and how long would a trip from one to the other have taken?? back in the 1860s........ TIA, Kerri _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Jeanette, How far back do your Wallace's go and what locale are you looking for? My grandmother's best friend from Kilmarnock was a Nellie Wallace and I think she died in about 1970. I have a George and Isabel Wallace who live on Vancouver Island-at least I thik they still do-it's been a while since I was last in touch. Jamie

Hello, these are the Renfrewshire families and Surnames I am researching... JAAP- children of Robert JAAP and Elizabeth NICHOLSON children of JOHN JAAP and MARION/MIRREN FYFE/FIFE Children of JOHN JAAP and MARGARET ANDERSON LEITCH- William LEITCH born abt. 1830s (probably Paisley) William LEITCH, (Born William McCANNA) born 20, July, 1862 at 12 New Smith hills, Paisley , mother, Jane MC CANNA 10 September 1882, William married MARGARET LANG daughter of Hannah JAAP and Thomas LANG LANG- children of Thomas LANG, and HANNAH JAAP Paisley.... that's a quick rundown of my Surname interests..... Kerri Leitch Gibson Lakeville,PA _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Sincere thanks to all who replied regarding the location of Crosshill. Research would be much easier if our ancestors hadn't changed county boundaries so often ! Regards, Mary McLaren B.C. Canada

In a message dated 4/8/03 1:49:03 PM GMT Daylight Time, MC1Rvar@aol.com writes > Charles Martin indicated an interest in Lyles My Lyle interests are as follows RobertLyle(b.1.12.1817 Houston & Kilellan) married Marion Crawford (b. 27.7.1828 Erskine ) in 1851 in Paisley ChildrenElizabeth b.1852 Erskine Ann b. 1853........................" Marion b. 1854...................." Robert b.1858.................Paisley Jane b. 1866................USA If these are your Lyles, Charles, feel free to reconnect ...Moira in Scotland > > > > >

G'day all, It is quite a while since I posted my name interests for Paisley; so here goes mainly Stow Street, New Sneddon, Bladda, Cotton Street. MARTIN (also Co Antrim) MURRAY (also Co Antrim) KEDER LYLE I am also interested in Elizabeth SOMERVILLE who could possibly be about 22 yo in 1886. She was a witness at the wedding of Charles MARTIN / Margaret MURRAY in Paisley. Are any listers researching James Hunter CASSIDY, Isaac CASSIDY, Mary WALLACE, John Patrick CUNNINGHAM, Samuel BROWN, Mary Ann SERVICE ? Thanks for reading Charles Martin

Hi Charles, I been researching my Wallace line in Scotland with no luck. I'm just wandering about Mary Wallace ( below ) and what information you do have on her. I'm trying to find any connection to my Wallaces. Thank You. Jeanette USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <MC1Rvar@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Re posting Interests > G'day all, > > It is quite a while since I posted my name interests for Paisley; so here > goes > mainly Stow Street, New Sneddon, Bladda, Cotton Street. > > MARTIN (also Co Antrim) > MURRAY (also Co Antrim) > KEDER > LYLE > > I am also interested in Elizabeth SOMERVILLE who could possibly be about 22 > yo in 1886. She was a witness at the wedding of Charles MARTIN / Margaret > MURRAY in Paisley. > > Are any listers researching James Hunter CASSIDY, Isaac CASSIDY, Mary > WALLACE, John Patrick CUNNINGHAM, Samuel BROWN, Mary Ann SERVICE ? > > Thanks for reading > > Charles Martin > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >

Anyone out there have any information on Steamships lost at Sea after a Collision leaving port of Greenock,Scotland in 1884?I am afraid that is all I know,I do not know location of collision.Any help appreciated.Thanks very much. Karen

Hi, GGGrandmother Mary Gorman b.1852 Greenock,Scotland Married Francisco Bedal 29 March 1869 Greenock Scotland. 1st Son Francis born 1870,died Canada 1960,2nd son John b. 13th April 1871,died 1873,3rd Son Michael b.27 July 1874,died 1875,4th Son Emanuel b.1878,died 1948. Widowed in 1884 she married her 2nd husband John Low in Greenock,and Mary died in 1911 in Greenock.At death was registered under name of Mary Bethel.Can anyone help me find the year of her second marriage?I have looked but am at a loss.I am sure it was not too long after her 1st husband died,lost at Sea.Any connections out there welcome. Thanks to all. Karen

Hi all, I am looking for SKS to do a MI lookup for me. I have a James Stephen b Meigle Perth 1797 d Arthurlie House Renfrew 1851. Wife was Emily Ivatts (Watts). She may have already been deceased at his death. His father was alive in 1851. His name was George Stephen TIA Joan Canada.