Hi Kerri, I have a few relatives who died in poorhouses....would they be listed in the "poor law records"? I am not quite sure what the poor law records are. Where and how do you look them up? Thanks, Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > > Phyllis, > If you have a relative who was a pauper, > did you look this person up in the poor law records? > I had someone look up my GGG grandparents, and I found a > veritable motherlode of information on the entire family..... > > hope this helps, > Kerri > > > > > > > > > > >From: Phyllis Ziajka <pziajka@shaw.ca> > >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:18:37 -0600 > > > >Hello Listers: > > > >I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest > > > >The family I'm researching is: > > > >JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at > >Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. Their > >children are as follows (all born at Paisley): > > > >Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 > >John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) > >Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 > >Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 > >Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) > >Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) > >Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) > >Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* > >Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) > >Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) > >Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) > > > >I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on her > >marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > >I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one of the > >other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to any Richmonds > >from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds from Paisley. If > >anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley and can give me any info > >on this family from that census I'd be very grateful. I have the parents > >and 2 youngest children (Agnes & Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at > >Kilmarnock), and the father died there the following year. He was a > >weaver, but a pauper at the time of his death (approximately 64 yrs. old). > > > >I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a > >connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. > >Thanks in advance, > >Phyllis, in Canada > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > >********************************************************************** > >To search the archived lists, including this list go to > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >

Hi List, Can SKS find me birth info on Janet MacTaggart b.about 1832,Kilmaurs,Ayrshire,parents etc.TIA.Blair

Hello Listers: I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest The family I'm researching is: JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. Their children are as follows (all born at Paisley): Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on her marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one of the other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to any Richmonds from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds from Paisley. If anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley and can give me any info on this family from that census I'd be very grateful. I have the parents and 2 youngest children (Agnes & Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at Kilmarnock), and the father died there the following year. He was a weaver, but a pauper at the time of his death (approximately 64 yrs. old). I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. Thanks in advance, Phyllis, in Canada

Hello Charles , I have a Mary MURRAY that married William HAMILTON in Paisley Abby they were married in the 1854 Mary's parents were James Murray & Marion Millar married 1827 Abby Paisley . Just wondering if there maybe a connection , I know very little about the MURRAY's Thanks & Cheers CLAIRE Claire Sinclair Paterson Invercargill ,New Zealand "Online Parish Clerk, Cubert ,Cornwall.UK" http://mmhamilton.tripod.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <MC1Rvar@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Re posting Interests > G'day all, > > It is quite a while since I posted my name interests for Paisley; so here > goes > mainly Stow Street, New Sneddon, Bladda, Cotton Street. > > MARTIN (also Co Antrim) > MURRAY (also Co Antrim) > KEDER > LYLE > > I am also interested in Elizabeth SOMERVILLE who could possibly be about 22 > yo in 1886. She was a witness at the wedding of Charles MARTIN / Margaret > MURRAY in Paisley. > > Are any listers researching James Hunter CASSIDY, Isaac CASSIDY, Mary > WALLACE, John Patrick CUNNINGHAM, Samuel BROWN, Mary Ann SERVICE ? > > Thanks for reading > > Charles Martin > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > >

Hi Kathy I'll try and help just in case no one has answered you. Unfortunately I don't believe that Paisley is included in the 1841 Street Index. You'll notice that the 1841 census films below have E.Ds -Enumeration Districts. This is the information needed to choose the right film which is obtained from the Street Index. You could go thru the films if that's the only way to do it,because there are actually only two films covering Paisley.The other two are refilms of the same area.That doesn't mean that the first two are no good. My advice is to order both films and find the Streets that you're looking for and so find the people you're looking for. Matching the street to the correct film is always a problem if you can't cross check using the Street Index. 1841 E.D. 1-42 FHL BRITISH Film 1042727 1841 E.D. 43-57 FHL BRITISH Film 1042728 1841 E.D. 1-43 (another filming) VAULT BRITISH Film 101919 1841 E.D. 44-57 (another filming) VAULT BRITISH Film 101920 -- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <kathyshouse@mindspring.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:04 AM Subject: [Renfrew] 1841 Census Search > I am new to the mailing list and to research in Scotland. I have the > marriage record of my gggrandparents dated October of 1841 and it gives a > street address for both of them. > > I'm assuming that the 1841 Census films are available for Paisley at the > FHC. As I don't know exactly how big a task searching for them with their > names and street name would be, would someone on the list advise me please. > > Thank you so much for any help you can give me. > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > >

In message <00d001c2fe1b$68e4ea80$822031d2@qld.optushome.com.au>, Delma Adam <delmaadam@optusnet.com.au> writes >Would anyone know anything of David Adam from Renfrewshire - there were a few >addresses in this County for him. He was a printer and publisher and I would be >interested if anyone knows anything of him. He died in 1901 and his address at >the time was Queens Park Avenue, Crosshill. There is a very good web site for printers and bookbinders in Scotland. I don't have web access from here, so can't give you the URL, but a good search engine should find it. John -- John Rouse

I have an ancestor called Archibald Shearer who lived in Paisley Road, Renfrew in the latter half of the 19th Century. On visiting the area last year I discovered a narrow thoroughfare leading off Paisley Road called Shearers Lane and wonder if anyone has any information concerning the origin of the name Shearers Lane. Gordon Thomson

Hello Claire, I too do not know a great deal about my MURRAY family (or the LYLE and KEDERs), but I am trying to learn more about them, so I cannot see any link at present but, I am only just beginning. I am directly related to Margaret MURRAY b 1845. She married Charles Wallace MARTIN b 1846 in June 1866. Charles Wallace MARTIN's parents were Walter MARTIN and Mary Keder MARTIN. Margaret Murray's parents were Joseph MURRAY (a bookseller) who was deceased in 1886 and Agnes Lyle MURRAY. Could any subscriber point me in the direction of a Paisley commercial directory pre 1866 where I could look up a possible entry for Joseph MURRAY? Best wishes to all, Charles

Re: Indweller: It means simply an inhabitant - to dwell or abide in. Ref. Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary, published Edinburgh, Scotland. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #91

Does anyone know what an "Indweller" was? The year was 1812 and the address was Seedhill? Bridge, Paisley. Thank you in anticipation, Barbara

Could it possibly be another word for lodger? Jacqui -----Original Message----- From: barbara hunt [mailto:bjhunt@ozemail.com.au] Sent: 09 April 2003 11:20 To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Renfrew] Indweller Does anyone know what an "Indweller" was? The year was 1812 and the address was Seedhill? Bridge, Paisley. Thank you in anticipation, Barbara ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire Query board is at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew

Hello, I would like to know if these streets still are there my McGown family lived there and I would love to have photos (of the street sign) william street Johnstone rankin street Johnstone dimity street Johnstone clippens square kilbarchan Sherry

Hello I recenly found out that Cothron is how my gr grandmother spelled her name in Scotland she was married in 1850 Johnstone, she came to the USA in 1870 has any other Cochran came across this spelling. her name was Margaret Cochran married Daniel McGown they were both born in ireland Can i get their marrige cert. for that year and where can I do this. thanks for any help, Sherry

Thanks so much to Jean and Jim for their replies. I'm afraid in my haste to ask about the 1841 census, I forgot to mention my family names. My gggrandparents were David Graham and Margaret Whyte. They were married in Paisley on October 25, 1841 and immigrated to the New York in 1865 with their children Henry, *Margaret, Jane, John, Joanna and May. *Margaret Graham is my ggrandmother and the only one that I have any information on. I am hoping that the 1841 census will verify that all of these children belong to the same David Graham and Margaret Whyte as I have only found birth records in Scotland and have never found them all living together. Thanks again for your help and any suggestions would be greatly accepted. I have been a reseacher for over ten years but have not done anything in Scotland so I am definitely lost. Kathy Florida http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/ Researching: Davis, Folts, Freunscht, Glen, Graham, Hard, Holton, Johnson, Jost, Koob, Lott, Mabie/Mabee, Moller, Peek, Peter, Petry, Sanders, Schroeder, Springsteel, Stevens, Stinson, Sutphin, Urban, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Welsh, Wendel, Whelan, Whyte -------Original Message------- From: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 01:11:55 AM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 Census Search > From: Kathy <kathyshouse@mindspring.com> > I am new to the mailing list and to research in Scotland. I have the > marriage record of my gggrandparents dated October of 1841 and it gives a > street address for both of them. _______________ Hi Kathy, and welcome! Do say the names (surnames at the very least!) of your research! We are like a family here...and relish meeting possible cousins! Jean Brocklebank McGowan, McAulay, McLachlan, Brocklebank ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ .

Moira, Thanks, I'll definitely check the site out.... Oh, I forgot to add my name.... Kerri Leitch Gibson, Lakeville, PA, USA researching.... LEITCH, JAAP, MCCANNA, MCAULAY,COAN, FORTUNE, AVINOU WILSON, WALKER- All in Paisley, except McAulay and Coan, which are Govan and Bo'ness....... >From: MoiraC40@aol.com >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Renfrew] AVINOU in Paisley or Duntocher?? >Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 03:38:26 EDT > >In a message dated 4/9/03 12:09:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, >fortuneavenue@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Are there business directories for Paisley from 1860? > > > >I have just recently been allerted to www.historicaldirectories.org > >thanks to another lister...and found it most helpful. Mind you the search >is >somewhat time consuming but well worth the effort of the page by page by >page >exercise. > >On the above website click on search, then type in Glasgow >Directory > (no quotation marks). This then shows Slater's Classified Directory >of a >number of >'important English towns' ...no mention of Scotland!!! > >However clicking on this will bring up the Glasgow Directory, followed by >Paisley, Johnstone, Greenock (before continuing with Isle of Man by the >way >folks!) > >Hope this helps, fortuneavenue@ hotmail ??? > >Moira > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at >http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Would anyone know anything of David Adam from Renfrewshire - there were a few addresses in this County for him. He was a printer and publisher and I would be interested if anyone knows anything of him. He died in 1901 and his address at the time was Queens Park Avenue, Crosshill. Delma Adam delmaadam@optusnet.com.au

I am new with the Scottish research and need help with areas as well as my ggggrandparents. Alexander MUIR (20 April 1794-before 1881?) born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. He married Agnes MENZIES (26 July 1802-????) born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. Marriage date 14 July 1820 Barney Glasgow Lanark Scotland. Children: David Thomson MUIR (19 July 1821) Glasgow Scotland married Ann McMillan 3 December 1841 in Carmannock Lanark Scotland Elizabeth MUIR (23 February 1823) Carlton, Barony, Scotland. She died after 1900 in Mahoney, Schuylkill county, Pennsyvania, USA married Samuel DRAPER in St. Butolph's, Bishopgate, London, England. Daniel Maitland Grey MUIR (14 Dec 1824/5 Glasgow, Scotland-died after 1901 in London, Middlesex, England. I especially need information regarding Alexander MUIR & Agnes MENZIES parents. Any help would be so much appreciated. Doris Gower in Missouri, USA email me dprovar@aol.com TIA

Hello Jamie, I'm stuck with my gggrandfather George Wallace. He was born 1861 Glasgow, Scotland ( don't know what district in Glasgow he was born ) I don't know his parents or his siblings. What I have is.... George Wallace married Christina Donaldson ( I can't find a marriage on them in Scotland ). I think they had a child name Alexander Wallace b. 1880 or 1881? Scotland ( somewhere ). I don't know the exact year they left Scotland but they inter the US in around Dec?1881. I don't know anymore about my gggrandfather George Wallace in Scotland. Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "jnelson" <jnelson@seanet.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Re posting Interests > Hi Jeanette, How far back do your Wallace's go and what locale are you > looking for? My grandmother's best friend from Kilmarnock was a Nellie > Wallace and I think she died in about 1970. I have a George and Isabel > Wallace who live on Vancouver Island-at least I thik they still do-it's been > a while since I was last in touch. Jamie > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

In a message dated 4/9/03 12:09:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, fortuneavenue@hotmail.com writes: > Are there business directories for Paisley from 1860? > I have just recently been allerted to www.historicaldirectories.org thanks to another lister...and found it most helpful. Mind you the search is somewhat time consuming but well worth the effort of the page by page by page exercise. On the above website click on search, then type in Glasgow Directory (no quotation marks). This then shows Slater's Classified Directory of a number of 'important English towns' ...no mention of Scotland!!! However clicking on this will bring up the Glasgow Directory, followed by Paisley, Johnstone, Greenock (before continuing with Isle of Man by the way folks!) Hope this helps, fortuneavenue@ hotmail ??? Moira

>> Are any listers researching James Hunter CASSIDY, Isaac CASSIDY, Mary WALLACE, John Patrick CUNNINGHAM, Samuel BROWN, Mary Ann SERVICE?<< Hello Jeanette Mary WALLACE married Isaac CASSIDY, a Joiner on April 1st 1864 at Port Glasgow. They had a son James Hunter CASSIDY on June 6th 1868 while living at 38 Causeyside, Paisley; Parish of Low Church. If you would like a jpg of this, please contact me off list. Hope this helps you, Charles