Hi Jim I'm pretty sure that this is the correct film so you won't need an E.D.# Census returns for Abbey (parish 559), 1841-1871 1871 Abbey Burgh 559/1 Abbey Landward 559/2 FHL BRITISH Film 104080 Cheers Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jabaxter" <jabaxter@eohio.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Enumeration District of Inkerman 1871? > Hello, > Would anyone on the list know what the enumeration district for Inkerman,Abbey Landward was in the 1871 census. I would like to order the film, but I don't know what district it would be in. > TIA > Jim > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > >

Hello, Would anyone on the list know what the enumeration district for Inkerman,Abbey Landward was in the 1871 census. I would like to order the film, but I don't know what district it would be in. TIA Jim

Hi, can someone tell me if there was any choice about where a child was baptised in Paisley? Did the child have to be baptised in the parish where it was born? Or was it possible for parents to choose the parish, for example, for the sake of family tradition? Thanks, Sandi

I am descended from Scotts in Kilmacolm and by marriage have connections with Langs and Gibbs so I may very well have information which will be beneficial. I am just about to go out but will contact you direct. What Scotts do you have? Jean Portsmouth, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elenore Chamberland" <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:33 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Kilmalcolm Names of interest > Hi: > > I am posting my names of interest in Kilmalcolm in hopes they may connect > with someone else on this list. > > Lang, Laird, Love, Holm (es) Fleming, Lyle, Gibb and Scott > > It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the film > in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very difficult to > read, faded ink, etc. > > Elenore > > > Kamloops, B.C. >

Jean and Elenor: I am descended from Scotts and Lairds in Kilmacolm and related to the Holms, i.e.: Alexander Laird (b. appx. 1732 Kilmacolm)and Elizabeth Scott (father: James Scott)(from Rauntree Hill, Kilmacolm) Children: John Laird, b. 5/6/1756, ch. 5/9/1756 James Laird, Ch 7/16/1758 *Helen Laird, b. 9/1/1760 Alexander Laird, b. 3/26/1763 Robert Laird, Ch. 4/21/1765 William Laird, b. 3/10/1769 *Joseph C. Laird, b. 10/27/1771, d. 7/27/1799 (U.S.) Joseph Laird (?) b. 2/5/1775 Thomas Laird, b. 12/21/1777 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Helen Laird married 2/27/1783 to John Holm from Cloak, Kilmacolm Their Children: James, b. 2/8/1794 @ Cloak, Ch. 2/8/1784 Elizabeth, b. 11/22/1785, @Cloak Alexander, b. 4/25/1787, @ Cloak Ch. 4/29/1787 Ann, b. 1/14/1789, @ Cloak Agnes, b. 1/28/1791 @ Cloak John, b. 10/18/1792 @ Cloak, Ch. 10/24/1792 Helen, b. 4/6/1794 @ Cloak, Ch. 4/13/1794 Agnes, b. 1/11/1796 @ Cloak, Ch. 1/24/1796 Janet, b. 12/18/1797 @ Cloak, Ch. 12/24/1797 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Joseph C. Laird married Ellen (Helen?) Elleanor Morrison (b. 8/19/1778) on 7/27/1799 in Tyrie, Aberdeenshire Their children: William R. Laird, b. 10/23/1800 - Aberdour Elizabeth, b. 9/2/1802 - Aberdeenshire Susan Anna, b. 1806 James, 1808 Alexander, 1812 Elleanor "Ellen", 1/1/1814, Caskieben John Ernest, 6/8/1817, Clark County, Ohio, USA Peter, 3/22/1821, Clark County, Ohio, USA I have record of descendants of all the children of Joseph and Elleanor, many living. I am in touch with several and cooperating with them to complete the genealogy records for those in America and Scotland. We have pictures, family stories, and many letters from the mid-1800's. I am VERY excited at the mention of the Lairds, Scotts, Holms and Lyles of Kilmacolm, since these are all names in my database. Please e-mail me as soon as possible. No doubt, we will be able to exchange much information! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Reynolds Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:42 AM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Kilmalcolm Names of interest I am descended from Scotts in Kilmacolm and by marriage have connections with Langs and Gibbs so I may very well have information which will be beneficial. I am just about to go out but will contact you direct. What Scotts do you have? Jean Portsmouth, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elenore Chamberland" <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:33 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Kilmalcolm Names of interest > Hi: > > I am posting my names of interest in Kilmalcolm in hopes they may connect > with someone else on this list. > > Lang, Laird, Love, Holm (es) Fleming, Lyle, Gibb and Scott > > It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the film > in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very difficult to > read, faded ink, etc. > > Elenore > > > Kamloops, B.C. > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire Query board is at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/RenfrewGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Kathy Further to Frank's posting, if you are looking for someone in Paisley I would also include the parish of Abbey , which is a separate film (or films). Although different parishes they are part of the one town and I am not sure how clearly the line is drawn in terms of individual streets. It could be that a street runs across both parishes. I have found people in Abbey who said they were from Paisley and vice versa. The way people moved around, it would pay to check the Abbey film as well if you are not sure where they are. The Abbey film is no. 101913, or there is another filming (in theory the same information) on two films nos. 104278 and 104279. I say in theory as I don't think that you can be sure that the odd page might have been skipped in a particular filming. I have often found pages duplicated so it is possible some might get missed as well. I know that has happened occasionally in other parishes. I have searched no. 101913 Abbey and also 101919 for Paisley and sometimes note street names as I go. If you let me know off list what street you are looking for I might be able to help. Same for 1851 where I have covered the whole town (I think!). Regards Bob

Hi all, Just thought I would post the names of this family to see if anyone else is researching same. STEWART Alan m. 1 Nov 1829 Mary MOTHERWELL Children John Motherwell STEWART christened 27 Nov 1831 Middle Church Paisley Robert Wood STEWART " " 6 Sept 1835 Paisley Mary Motherwell STEWART " " 28 May 1837 High Church Paisley Barbara Rowan STEWART " " 28 Apr 1839 Paisley David Whyte STEWART " " 1 Nov 1840 High Church Paisley William Whyte STEWART b. 29 Dec 1843 regards Lois Maryborough Vic in Australia

Hi Jackie, found this while browsing, http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/Web/Live/rc-weblive.nsf/LU-AllContent/CGOL-58LGEV?OpenDocument Jacqui Jackie Thorpe <jackieaz@cox.net> wrote:Hi Kerri, My relatives were from Paisley to. Felix Mulholland's death certificate lists his death on 23 June 1904 at the Poorhouse Paisley. Janet Gemmell m/s Russell death certificate lists her death on 21 April 1865 at the Poorhouse Paisley. I would guess they must have applied to be admitted.... Where are the Paisley archives kept? Does anybody do lookups there? Anyone out there know? Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records > Hi Jackie, > My relatives were from Paisley, and there > the records were kept in the Paisley archives... > I had a friend look my ancestors up for me, and she > transcribed the entries for me...which in my case was quite an undertaking. > I'm not sure where the records were kept in other towns or areas...maybe > someone wlse on the list would know.... > but maybe the poorhouses kept records as well??? maybe if you know the > poorhouse they were in, they have records somewhere??? > I stumbled on to the poor law records by accident. I found the cemetery my > GGG GM was buried at, and found she was buried in a paupers grave, owned by > the church, which led me to the poor law records.... > I'm in the US too, so I'm no expert on where things are kept in Scotland. > Maybe SKS on the list can help us... > > Hope this helps a little, > Kerri > Lakeville, PA > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience

Hi Jackie, I found this site while browsing http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/Web/Live/rc-weblive.nsf/LU-AllContent/CGOL-58LGEV?OpenDocument Jacqui Jackie Thorpe <jackieaz@cox.net> wrote:Hi Kerri, My relatives were from Paisley to. Felix Mulholland's death certificate lists his death on 23 June 1904 at the Poorhouse Paisley. Janet Gemmell m/s Russell death certificate lists her death on 21 April 1865 at the Poorhouse Paisley. I would guess they must have applied to be admitted.... Where are the Paisley archives kept? Does anybody do lookups there? Anyone out there know? Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records > Hi Jackie, > My relatives were from Paisley, and there > the records were kept in the Paisley archives... > I had a friend look my ancestors up for me, and she > transcribed the entries for me...which in my case was quite an undertaking. > I'm not sure where the records were kept in other towns or areas...maybe > someone wlse on the list would know.... > but maybe the poorhouses kept records as well??? maybe if you know the > poorhouse they were in, they have records somewhere??? > I stumbled on to the poor law records by accident. I found the cemetery my > GGG GM was buried at, and found she was buried in a paupers grave, owned by > the church, which led me to the poor law records.... > I'm in the US too, so I'm no expert on where things are kept in Scotland. > Maybe SKS on the list can help us... > > Hope this helps a little, > Kerri > Lakeville, PA > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience

Hi: I am posting my names of interest in Kilmalcolm in hopes they may connect with someone else on this list. Lang, Laird, Love, Holm (es) Fleming, Lyle, Gibb and Scott It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the film in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very difficult to read, faded ink, etc. Elenore Kamloops, B.C.

Hi Everyone, Don't know if this will help anyone, but i have the 1881 census and will do lookups for anyone who has someone they're looking for please email me directly with any requests... Kerri Fortuneavenue@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi Jackie, I found a site that will most likley help.... try http://www.scan.org.uk/familyhistory/myancestor/index.htm my ancestor was a pauper is near the bottom HTH, Kerri >From: "Jackie Thorpe" <jackieaz@cox.net> >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:47:00 -0700 > >Hi Kerri, > >I have a few relatives who died in poorhouses....would they be listed in >the >"poor law records"? I am not quite sure what the poor law records are. >Where and how do you look them up? > >Thanks, >Jackie >Scottsdale, Arizona USA > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> >To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:07 AM >Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > > > > > > Phyllis, > > If you have a relative who was a pauper, > > did you look this person up in the poor law records? > > I had someone look up my GGG grandparents, and I found a > > veritable motherlode of information on the entire >family..... > > > > hope this helps, > > Kerri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Phyllis Ziajka <pziajka@shaw.ca> > > >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:18:37 -0600 > > > > > >Hello Listers: > > > > > >I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest > > > > > >The family I'm researching is: > > > > > >JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at > > >Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. >Their > > >children are as follows (all born at Paisley): > > > > > >Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 > > >John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) > > >Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 > > >Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 > > >Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) > > >Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) > > >Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) > > >Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* > > >Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) > > >Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) > > >Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) > > > > > >I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on her > > >marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > >I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one of >the > > >other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to any >Richmonds > > >from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds from Paisley. >If > > >anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley and can give me any >info > > >on this family from that census I'd be very grateful. I have the >parents > > >and 2 youngest children (Agnes & Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at > > >Kilmarnock), and the father died there the following year. He was a > > >weaver, but a pauper at the time of his death (approximately 64 yrs. >old). > > > > > >I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a > > >connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Phyllis, in Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > >********************************************************************** > > >To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Desmond Garrity desgarrity@blueyonder.co.uk was extremely useful to me in looking up an application for Poor Law Aid for a person in Lanarkshire. He may not have any records for Paisley or Renfrewshire, but he might be able to point you in the right direction. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #93

Hi Jackie, My relatives were from Paisley, and there the records were kept in the Paisley archives... I had a friend look my ancestors up for me, and she transcribed the entries for me...which in my case was quite an undertaking. I'm not sure where the records were kept in other towns or areas...maybe someone wlse on the list would know.... but maybe the poorhouses kept records as well??? maybe if you know the poorhouse they were in, they have records somewhere??? I stumbled on to the poor law records by accident. I found the cemetery my GGG GM was buried at, and found she was buried in a paupers grave, owned by the church, which led me to the poor law records.... I'm in the US too, so I'm no expert on where things are kept in Scotland. Maybe SKS on the list can help us... Hope this helps a little, Kerri Lakeville, PA >From: "Jackie Thorpe" <jackieaz@cox.net> >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:47:00 -0700 > >Hi Kerri, > >I have a few relatives who died in poorhouses....would they be listed in >the >"poor law records"? I am not quite sure what the poor law records are. >Where and how do you look them up? > >Thanks, >Jackie >Scottsdale, Arizona USA > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> >To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:07 AM >Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > > > > > > Phyllis, > > If you have a relative who was a pauper, > > did you look this person up in the poor law records? > > I had someone look up my GGG grandparents, and I found a > > veritable motherlode of information on the entire >family..... > > > > hope this helps, > > Kerri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Phyllis Ziajka <pziajka@shaw.ca> > > >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND > > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:18:37 -0600 > > > > > >Hello Listers: > > > > > >I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest > > > > > >The family I'm researching is: > > > > > >JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at > > >Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. >Their > > >children are as follows (all born at Paisley): > > > > > >Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 > > >John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) > > >Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 > > >Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 > > >Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) > > >Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) > > >Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) > > >Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* > > >Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) > > >Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) > > >Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) > > > > > >I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on her > > >marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. > > > > > >I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one of >the > > >other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to any >Richmonds > > >from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds from Paisley. >If > > >anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley and can give me any >info > > >on this family from that census I'd be very grateful. I have the >parents > > >and 2 youngest children (Agnes & Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at > > >Kilmarnock), and the father died there the following year. He was a > > >weaver, but a pauper at the time of his death (approximately 64 yrs. >old). > > > > > >I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a > > >connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Phyllis, in Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > >********************************************************************** > > >To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi Kerri, This site has tons of info! Thanks. Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records > > Hi Jackie, > I found a site that will most likley help.... > try > http://www.scan.org.uk/familyhistory/myancestor/index.htm > > my ancestor was a pauper is near the bottom > > HTH, > Kerri >

As a newcomer to the list, can anyone please help with my brickwall? My gggrandfather James DAVIDSON was born ca. 1812. From James's marriage certificate, I know his father's name was George, a blacksmith, but I don't have his mother's name. It's possible that James was born in Greenoock or that the family moved from Aberdeenshire when James was small. (I'm posting this query on the Aberdeen list as well.) There's a family story that George ended up as an engineer on the steam ferries to Ireland. James moved south to Bristol by 1841 & on to Swindon (Wiltshire) in the late 1840s where he worked as an engineer/fitter in the GWR works. I have a few possible James-son-of-George baptisms from the OPRs for NE Scotland (although none for Renfrew) but I've no way at present of pinning down the right one. So, does anyone have a George DAVIDSON, blacksmith/engineer born say 1770-90? Pete Davidson (from Suffolk)

Thanks Jacqui, This is a great site! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "jacqui graham" <jacquig31@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records > > Hi Jackie, I found this site while browsing > http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/Web/Live/rc-weblive.nsf/LU-AllContent/CGOL-58 LGEV?OpenDocument > Jacqui > Jackie Thorpe <jackieaz@cox.net> wrote:Hi Kerri, > > My relatives were from Paisley to. Felix Mulholland's death certificate > lists his death on 23 June 1904 at the Poorhouse Paisley. Janet Gemmell m/s > Russell death certificate lists her death on 21 April 1865 at the Poorhouse > Paisley. I would guess they must have applied to be admitted.... > > Where are the Paisley archives kept? Does anybody do lookups there? Anyone > out there know? > > Jackie > Scottsdale, Arizona USA >

Hi Kerri, My relatives were from Paisley to. Felix Mulholland's death certificate lists his death on 23 June 1904 at the Poorhouse Paisley. Janet Gemmell m/s Russell death certificate lists her death on 21 April 1865 at the Poorhouse Paisley. I would guess they must have applied to be admitted.... Where are the Paisley archives kept? Does anybody do lookups there? Anyone out there know? Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Gibson" <fortuneavenue@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RICHMOND/Poor Law Records > Hi Jackie, > My relatives were from Paisley, and there > the records were kept in the Paisley archives... > I had a friend look my ancestors up for me, and she > transcribed the entries for me...which in my case was quite an undertaking. > I'm not sure where the records were kept in other towns or areas...maybe > someone wlse on the list would know.... > but maybe the poorhouses kept records as well??? maybe if you know the > poorhouse they were in, they have records somewhere??? > I stumbled on to the poor law records by accident. I found the cemetery my > GGG GM was buried at, and found she was buried in a paupers grave, owned by > the church, which led me to the poor law records.... > I'm in the US too, so I'm no expert on where things are kept in Scotland. > Maybe SKS on the list can help us... > > Hope this helps a little, > Kerri > Lakeville, PA >

Phyllis, If you have a relative who was a pauper, did you look this person up in the poor law records? I had someone look up my GGG grandparents, and I found a veritable motherlode of information on the entire family..... hope this helps, Kerri >From: Phyllis Ziajka <pziajka@shaw.ca> >Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:18:37 -0600 > >Hello Listers: > >I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest > >The family I'm researching is: > >JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at >Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. Their >children are as follows (all born at Paisley): > >Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 >John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) >Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 >Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 >Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) >Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) >Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) >Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* >Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) >Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) >Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) > >I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on her >marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. > >I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one of the >other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to any Richmonds >from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds from Paisley. If >anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley and can give me any info >on this family from that census I'd be very grateful. I have the parents >and 2 youngest children (Agnes & Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at >Kilmarnock), and the father died there the following year. He was a >weaver, but a pauper at the time of his death (approximately 64 yrs. old). > >I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a >connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. >Thanks in advance, >Phyllis, in Canada > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >********************************************************************** >To search the archived lists, including this list go to >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Hi Kerri: thanks for the tip - yes I had already done that - you see when I found them in 1851 in Kilmarnock he was listed as a weaver, pauper - I then got the appropriate Kilmarnock Poor Relief Film and found him there. He was refused assistance the first time, but the second time he applied he got some help, however 2 months later he was Off the Roll - reason: Death. Thats how come I know when he died. However, the Poor Relief Apps gave virtually no information at all - only confirmed his place of birth and his current address - NO info at all about family, wife, children, etc. I was very disappointed in that. But thanks for your reply Phyllis Kerri Gibson wrote: > > Phyllis, > If you have a relative who was a pauper, > did you look this person up in the poor law records? > I had someone look up my GGG grandparents, and I found a > veritable motherlode of information on the entire family..... > > hope this helps, > Kerri > > > > > > > > > >> From: Phyllis Ziajka <pziajka@shaw.ca> >> Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >> To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Renfrew] RICHMOND >> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:18:37 -0600 >> >> Hello Listers: >> >> I'm new on the Renfrew List and would like to post my surname interest >> >> The family I'm researching is: >> >> JOHN RICHMOND (b. at Riccarton ca. 1788) marred ANN FERGUSON (b. at >> Kilmarnock ca. 1797). They married at Paisley High Curch in 1814. >> Their children are as follows (all born at Paisley): >> >> Montgomery Richmond, b. 1816 (High Church) - died before 1838 >> John Richmond, b. 1817 (High Church) >> Ann b. 1819 (High Church) died before 1820 >> Ann b. 1820 (High Church) died before 1830 >> Robert Richmond b. 1822 (High Church) >> Margaret Richmond b. 1824, High Church) >> Charles Richmond b. 1827 (High Church) >> Ann Ferguson Richmond, b. 1830 (High Church)* >> Mary Campbell Richmond, b. 1833 (High Church) >> Agnes Richmond, b. 1835, (Middle Church) >> Montgomery Cunningham Richmond, b. 1838 (Middle Church) >> >> I am descended from Ann Ferguson Richmond and have further info on >> her marriage, children, grandchildren, etc. >> >> I would be most interested in hearing from anyone descended from one >> of the other children listed above, or anyone who has connections to >> any Richmonds from Riccarton; Fergusons from Kilmarnock; or Richmonds >> from Paisley. If anyone has access to the 1841 census for Paisley >> and can give me any info on this family from that census I'd be very >> grateful. I have the parents and 2 youngest children (Agnes & >> Montgomery) on the 1851 census (at Kilmarnock), and the father died >> there the following year. He was a weaver, but a pauper at the time >> of his death (approximately 64 yrs. old). >> >> I look forward to hearing from anyone who thinks they might have a >> connection, and also from anyone else with info to share. >> Thanks in advance, >> Phyllis, in Canada >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== >> ********************************************************************** >> To search the archived lists, including this list go to >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > >