At 01:04 AM 2003-04-15 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:04:24 -0700 >From: Elenore Chamberland <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > >Hi David: >Mymain interest in the Lyule family is Isobel Lyle d/o David Lyle and >Margaret Lang who married James Laird s/o Alexander Laird and Janet Laird >8 May 1794. at Kilmalcolm. Isobel (Isabell) Lyle has two dates for her marriage and I believe there is a transcription error in it as the first date is shown as 25 April 1793 (marriage banns?). The second marriage date is listed as you said 8th May 1794. Someone else may have the answer for this one I hope. >David and Margaret were married 12 March 1763 at Kilmalcolm but I have yet >to find their parents. This marriage is listed as 12 January 1765 on the IGI. David Lyle was born 31 October 1731. His parents were David Lyle & Janet Lyle who married 21st August 1729. Margaret Lang birth unknown, father was James Lang. >I am also looking for the parents of MaryLyle who married James Holm 22 >June 1801 at Houston but their children were all baptized at Kilmalcolm. > >I have another more recent Lyle family of interest. John Boyd Lyle s/o >William Lyle and Christine McIntyre. ,married Grace Love Pollock d/o >Walter Pollock and Mary Ann Simpson 7 June 1894 at Port Glasgow. Grace >Love Pollock was my grandfather's sister. There are three marriages listed for a John Lyle in 1894. Would the Port-Glasgow Entry No. 51 be your John Boyd Lyle? I would be interested to know where the Boyd name came in? >Elenore I would like to see your Lyle GEDCOM file as I am confused now. Are all the above linked to you or are you just fishing for all Lyle names in the Kilmacolm area? My line goes back to David & Janet Lyle 1731. Please send to my email address. Regards David B. Lyle

Barbara Is District No; different from Parish No;?? I have Parish No; 462 as being Kinross,Scotland.They have No's; from 460-464. 460-Cliesh,461-Fossoway(Tulliebole),462-Kinross,463-Orwell,464- Portmoak. Hope this helps John

I too am new to the list and am looking for the following names in the in Lochwinnoch area. Cranie/Craney/Crannie/McVittie/McVitey/McVity

Thanks Bob , it looks like I will need to order the film. I have traced them in all other census so that is next step. Appreciate your help Irene in New Zealand.

Hello, I am new to the list and am loooking for my cousin, Henry HUGHES and his wife Annie HATTON. They were living in Howwood around 1900-1950 Thanks for your time and efforts,Sharon/ USA sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

I have read your posting and have kept the emails concerned. What Lyle & Laird names are you researching? At 09:00 AM 2003-04-12 -0600, you wrote: >______________________________X-Message: #9 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:33:05 -0700 >From: Elenore Chamberland <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030411202749.026b0a10@mail.ocis.net> >Subject: [Renfrew] Kilmalcolm Names of interest >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Hi: > >I am posting my names of interest in Kilmalcolm in hopes they may connect >with someone else on this list. > >Lang, Laird, Love, Holm (es) Fleming, Lyle, Gibb and Scott > >It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the >film in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very >difficult to read, faded ink, etc. Regards David B. Lyle

Hi David: Mymain interest in the Lyule family is Isobel Lyle d/o David Lyle and Margaret Lang who married James Laird s/o Alexander Laird and Janet Laird 8 May 1794. at Kilmalcolm. David and Margaret were married 12 March 1763 at Kilmalcolm but I have yet to find their parents. I am also looking for the parents of MaryLyle who married James Holm 22 June 1801 at Houston but their children were all baptized at Kilmalcolm. I have another more recent Lyle family of interest. John Boyd Lyle s/o William Lyle and Christine McIntyre. ,married Grace Love Pollock d/o Walter Pollock and Mary Ann Simpson 7 June 1894 at Port Glasgow. Grace Love Pollock was my grandfather's sister. Elenore At 05:27 AM 04/15/2003 +0800, you wrote: >I have read your posting and have kept the emails concerned. What Lyle & >Laird names are you researching? > >At 09:00 AM 2003-04-12 -0600, you wrote: >>______________________________X-Message: #9 >>Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:33:05 -0700 >>From: Elenore Chamberland <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> >>To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >>Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030411202749.026b0a10@mail.ocis.net> >>Subject: [Renfrew] Kilmalcolm Names of interest >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >>Hi: >> >>I am posting my names of interest in Kilmalcolm in hopes they may connect >>with someone else on this list. >> >>Lang, Laird, Love, Holm (es) Fleming, Lyle, Gibb and Scott >> >>It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the >>film in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very >>difficult to read, faded ink, etc. > >Regards > >David B. Lyle > > Kamloops, B.C.

Could a lister please tell me the name of District No 462 in the 1851 Census. I am looking for George Rennie (probably listed as a widower)and Robert aged 23, Margaret 19, Ann 17, George 11. Also in the same district his brother James, wife Margaret, Janet aged 18 and John 9. There may be another child listed. I have searched census films for 1851 unsuccessfully.....However they were listed in an index for 1851 census under the above mentioned district. Many thanks, Barbara in Australia

Good afternoon District 462 is Kinross - hope that helps. Ewan All round Genealogy and Family History Service. Unique and Individual Tours - www.caledoniaroutes.co.uk Genealogy and Family History - www.ancestryroots.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara hunt" <bjhunt@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:10 AM Subject: [Renfrew] 1851 CENSUS DISTRICT > Could a lister please tell me the name of District No 462 in the 1851 Census. I am looking for > George Rennie (probably listed as a widower)and Robert aged 23, Margaret 19, Ann 17, George 11. > Also in the same district his brother James, wife Margaret, Janet aged 18 and John 9. There may be another child listed. > > I have searched census films for 1851 unsuccessfully.....However they were listed in an index for 1851 census under the above mentioned district. > > Many thanks, > Barbara > in Australia >

Hi . . . thanks for your trouble . . . I may have read your original post wrong . . . thought you said you had the 1871 census . . . that's what I was interested in. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marv and Jo Stevens" <jomarv@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Cathcart > Hi Sandy, The 1881 census shows > > Dwelling : Tenement No 27 > Census Place : Cathcart, Renfew, Scotland > Source : FHL Film 0203567 GRO ref Volume 560 EnumDist 1 Page 26 > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > > James Laurie M 57 M Ireland > Head > Carter > Martha Laurie M 56 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland > Wife > John Laurie U 22 M Cathcart Renfrew Scotland > Son > Carter > Martha Laurie U 19 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland > Dau > Carters Dau > Maggie Laurie U 16 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland > Dau > Mill Worker > Charles Laurie U 14 M Cathcart Renfrew Scotland > Son > Office Boy > Annie Strachan U 17 F Glasgow Lanark Scotland > Boarder > Mill worker > > No James or William. > > Joan > Canada > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Thank you, Ed, for your insight re the inscription by R. Little, C.B., at the foot of the headstone fro Agnes McLean and James Clint in Auchencairn Cemetery. This begs the question, however: I wonder how my antecedents could have afforded to pay such an auspicious gentleman, shall we say, to put his imprimatur at the bottom of the headstone. From what I can understand "my ain folk were puir and plain folk," to paraphrase the song, most earning their living as agricultural workers. John Clint, who, to my untrained eye, was a talented artist, may have been the exception and could very well have been acquainted with R. Little, CB. There is the possibility that Robert Little, therefore, either offered his services gratis to design the headstone, or was commissioned by someone in the family who had a wee bitty extra siller to throw around. Another divergent road to explore! It has been suggested that headstones would have been comparatively cheap in the 19th century as the Dalbeattie granite works are fairly close by. Still, somebody HAD to be paid to "dress" the stones and make the inscriptions, and as it is a skill in itself, must not have come "cheap" even :"back then". I wonder if any memorial stone companies kept records from the 1700s on about the charges for the various-sized headstones, numbers of letters inscribed, etc., and best of all, who ordered and paid for the stones. Nowadays it is not an inexpensive undertaking to provide for modest gravestones, never mind larger headstones. Thank you again for your contribution to this Scarlet Pimpernel mystery! Maisie Egger (formerly from Glasgow, Scotland) Paso Robles, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Thompson" <ehthomps@hotmail.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Re: Auchencairn Cemetery Headstone > I've been away for a bit and may have misssed a reply, but if not may I > suggest Robert Little as a possible candidate for the "R.Little, C.B." on > the base of the headstone. The Robert Little I have in mind was a well-known > artist from Greenock (I think) who was active from the late 19th century > until well into the 20th century. He was a fellow of the RSA, RGI, RSW and > the Royal Society of Edinburgh, so could very well have picked up a CB as > well on the way. If so, he could have designed the headstone or perhaps have > been involved in some way with the erection of a memorial to a fellow > artist. > > Ed Thompson > Dundee, Scotland > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > >

Hello, I have the film for the 1871 census for the parishes of Cathcart, Eaglesham, Eastwood, & Erskine on loan at present. I will be happy to do some lookups. It will be most helpful if you have an address. Send details asap. Best wishes Janet Connochie Christchurch, NZ

Dear Janet I would be interested to see the census for the following people: Jessie Dalziel Adam (nee McLachlan) and David Adam - they were married in 1871 so I don't know whether it was before or after the census. Later on (on the 1881 census) they were living at 2 Cathkin Terrace, Cathcart, Renfrenshire. He was in the printing business and I would be interested to know where he lived. He was born on 15.1.1837 so he would be 34 years old. It would be interesting to know where he lived if this is the only information available. His (David Adam) parents were Alexander Adam and Bruce (female) Wilson, but I think they lived in Dunfermline - well they were married in Dunfermline, but perhaps they moived to Renfrewshire. This couple had 6 children but they were born betwee 1790 and 1813. If they are living in Cathcart perhaps you could let me know and I cangive you the names of all their children. Many thanks. Delma Adam delmaadam@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Connochie" <connochie@caverock.net.nz> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:16 AM Subject: [Renfrew] 1871 Census - Cathcart, Eaglesham, Eastwood & Erskine > Hello, > > I have the film for the 1871 census for the parishes of Cathcart, > Eaglesham, Eastwood, & Erskine on loan at present. > > I will be happy to do some lookups. It will be most helpful if you > have an address. Send details asap. > > Best wishes > Janet Connochie > Christchurch, NZ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ >

Dear Listers, I just thought I'd repost my intrest. Researching Thomas Lyall of Abbey Paisley b. January 13, 1838. He was the son of William Lyall a weaver and Elizabeth Rodger or Rodgers. The problem I have is on Thomas Lyall's OPR from Abbey his father has the first name of William and on his Thomas Lyall's death extract from Ferguslie, Paisley in 1899 it list his fathers first name as Thomas. His parents marriage took place on February 12, 1836 in the Parish of Abbey, Paisley. Have any other listers come across this before?. Does anyone have access to the OPR's from the 1830's who could verify this for me?. I would be willing to do look up on the 1881 census in return, which I have . Sincerely, Amy Gilroy

Hi Sandy, Slight correction to previous entry. Martha Laurie was also born in Ireland. Not in Scotland. Joan

Hi Sandy, The 1881 census shows Dwelling : Tenement No 27 Census Place : Cathcart, Renfew, Scotland Source : FHL Film 0203567 GRO ref Volume 560 EnumDist 1 Page 26 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James Laurie M 57 M Ireland Head Carter Martha Laurie M 56 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland Wife John Laurie U 22 M Cathcart Renfrew Scotland Son Carter Martha Laurie U 19 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland Dau Carters Dau Maggie Laurie U 16 F Cathcart Renfrew Scotland Dau Mill Worker Charles Laurie U 14 M Cathcart Renfrew Scotland Son Office Boy Annie Strachan U 17 F Glasgow Lanark Scotland Boarder Mill worker No James or William. Joan Canada

I am new to the list and I am looking for anyone who is connected to Henry HUGHES who married Annie HATTON. They married in Belfast, Northeren Ireland. Later had a son Brendan HUGHES, around 1948. Look forward to hearing from someone soon,Sharon/ USA sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

Hi Janet My husband's gr grandparents, James and Martha(sometimes Matilda)LAURIE lived in Cathcart . . . sorry, don't know where . . . oldest son at home, I believe would have been Wm., perhaps James. Thanks Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Connochie" <connochie@caverock.net.nz> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1871 Census - Cathcart, Eaglesham, Eastwood & Erskine > Hello, > > I have the film for the 1871 census for the parishes of Cathcart, > Eaglesham, Eastwood, & Erskine on loan at present. > > I will be happy to do some lookups. It will be most helpful if you > have an address. Send details asap. > > Best wishes > Janet Connochie > Christchurch, NZ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > >

Frank, Thanks for taking the time and doing the look up. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Enumeration District of Inkerman 1871? > Hi Jim > I'm pretty sure that this is the correct film so you won't need an E.D.# > > Census returns for Abbey (parish 559), 1841-1871 > 1871 Abbey Burgh 559/1 Abbey Landward 559/2 FHL BRITISH Film > 104080 > > > Cheers > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jabaxter" <jabaxter@eohio.net> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: [Renfrew] Enumeration District of Inkerman 1871? > > > > Hello, > > Would anyone on the list know what the enumeration district for > Inkerman,Abbey Landward was in the 1871 census. I would like to order the > film, but I don't know what district it would be in. > > TIA > > Jim > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > >

Bob Pollock, Can I please beg a look up on 1851 census of Paisley Would you be good enough to look on 1851 for a family for me. I have them on 1861-71-81census always in Stock Street Paisley . I have two infants on Headstone in Paisley's Woodside Cemetery who are new to me but should be in 1851 census. Looking for family of David and Elizabeth SWEENIE nee Richardson married Dec 1842 children: Anne SWEENIE b1843 this is one on headstone?? James SWEENIE b Nov 1844 *** this is mine William SWEENIE b 1846 this is other infant on headstone Janet Robertson SWEENIE b 1847 Mary Louise SWEENIE b 1849 David SWEENIE found on 1861 census but lost him again. Elizabeth Richardson SWEENIE b 1854 Irene in New Zealand.