Hello to everyone, Looking for the above family. Names associated are: William Gillespie LAING Donald McGillivray LAING William Gordon McLeod LAING. Do any of these names familiar Leanne,NSW,Australia

John AULD & Elizabeth CAMPBELL married re 1790. 11 children born between 1790 & 1810 in High Paisley. Second child -David AULD- christened 1791 married Agnes ADAMS 1819 High Paisley. Son David born 18-10-1825 & married Lockhart PATERSON 02-03-1850. Lockhart PATERSON (Father- Thomas PATERSON Mother - Isabella PATON) was born 22-03-1829 in Paisley. This last couple came to NSW Australia in late 1852. Can any one help with details re pre these dates please? Thank you

Hi Phyllis I have a few Richmonds way back which I have appended to the message. I come down from the Magaret Mitchell who married John McMuldroch Mike Descendants of James Richmond 1 James Richmond .. +Agnes Brown m: 19 September 1796 in Kilmarnock, Ayr ............. 2 Jean Richmond 1798 - 1884 b: 6 June 1798 in Kilmarnock. Ayr Occupation: 1871 Sick nurse d: 8 November 1884 in 22, Boyd St, Kilmarnock ................. +Archibald Mitchell 1799 - 1885 b: 1799 in Clachan, Argyle m: 28 June 1822 in Stewarton, Ayr Occupation: Bet. 1827 - 1841 Joiner d: 15 December 1885 in Kilmarnock, aged 84 ............................ 3 Janet Mitchell 1827 - b: 2 July 1827 ............................ 3 Robert (Richmond) Mitchell 1829 - b: 17 September 1829 Occupation: 1851 Cabinet maker ............................ 3 Christina Mitchell 1832 - 1888 b: 28 January 1832 in Kilmarnock Occupation: 1851 Dressmaker Burial: Kilmarnock d: 4 December 1888 in Kilmarnock ................................ +Hugh McMurtrie 1831 - 1912 b: 1831 m: Abt. 1880 Burial: Kilmarnock d: 18 November 1912 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 John McMurtrie 1865 - 1886 b: 1865 in Kilmarnock Burial: 1886 Kilmarnock d: 13 February 1886 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 Archibald McMurtrie 1869 - 1869 b: May 1869 in Kilmarnock Burial: 1869 Kilmarnock d: 17 August 1869 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 Elizabeth Wylie McMurtrie 1873 - 1937 b: 1873 in Kilmarnock Burial: 1937 Kilmarnock d: 7 August 1937 in Kilmarnock ............................................... +James Smith 1871 - 1938 b: 1871 in Kilmarnock d: 17 September 1938 in Kilmarnock ............................ 3 Mary Mitchell 1834 - 1860 b: 21 March 1834 in Kilmarnock Occupation: 1851 French polisher Cause of death (Facts Pg): 1860 pulmonary disease d: 18 April 1860 in Kilmarnock ................................ +James Ferguson 1836 - 1916 b: 1836 in Tarbolton m: 27 April 1857 in Kilmarnock, Ayr Occupation: 1860 Cabinet maker Burial: 1916 Kilmarnock d: 25 December 1916 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 George Ferguson 1857 - b: 29 April 1857 ........................................... 4 James Ferguson 1858 - 1858 b: 16 September 1858 d: 17 September 1858 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 Jeanie Richmond Ferguson 1860 - 1941 b: 3 February 1860 in 3, Montgomery St. Kilmarnock Occupation: 1881 Carpet designer d: 4 July 1941 in Castle Douglas ............................................... +Robert Badger 1858 - 1937 b: 26 September 1858 in West Shaw St. Kilmarnock at 11.15 pm m: 26 September 1884 in Kilmarnock, Ayr Occupation: post office worker became Postmaster in Kilmarnock then Castle Douglas d: 31 January 1937 in Castle Douglas ............................ 3 Margaret Mitchell 1837 - 1919 b: 28 February 1837 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire d: 12 September 1919 in 89, Dundonald Road, Kilmarnock,3:30 a.m., senile decay, informant Archibald McMuldroch (son) ................................ +John McMuldroch 1835 - 1898 b: 25 March 1835 m: 27 July 1860 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Occupation: 4 June 1891 Master Joiner d: 22 March 1898 in Kilmarnock, 11:45 p.m., Scarlet fever, Cardiac failure, 43 Boyd Street, Master Joiner, informant Archibald McMuldroch (son) registered 23rd March ........................................... 4 Jane McMuldroch 1862 - b: 18 February 1862 ........................................... 4 Agnes McMuldrock 1864 - b: 1 February 1864 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire ........................................... 4 George McMuldroch 1865 - 1867 b: 8 November 1865 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire d: 3 November 1867 in Wellington St, Kilmarnock, 3:30 a.m., Croup, informant John McMuldroch (father) ........................................... 4 Archibald McMuldroch 1868 - 1929 b: 2 November 1868 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Occupation: 17 June 1920 Joiner (journeyman) d: 1929 in 49, Green St, Huntington, LI, NY, USA, ............................................... +Jean Young 1870 - 1943 b: 12 April 1870 in Loudoun, Scotland m: 4 June 1891 in The Oddfellows Hall, Kilmarnock Cause of death (Facts Pg): 5 February 1943 Cerebral Hemorrhage (4 days) confirmed by Urine test Burial: 8 February 1943 Cold Spring Harbour NY Memorial Cemetery undertaker A.L. Jacobsen 1380 NY Avenue, Huntington Emigration: 21 August 1910 From Glasgow on the Caledonia via Ellis Island with Daughters Jean and Maisie d: 5 February 1943 in 5 Fairmont Avenue, Huntington, LI, NY, USA Suffolk County notified by Marion McMuldroch Chamberlin doctor attending Anthony Firenze, 81 New St, Huntington ........................................... 4 Janet McMuldroch 1870 - b: 22 December 1870 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire ........................................... 4 Margaret McMuldroch 1873 - b: 26 February 1873 Occupation: Milliner Burial: 21 December 1961 Grassyards Road, Kilmarnock, Lair F-48 d: in Rocklea, Cove, Dunbartonshire aged 88 ........................................... 4 Mary M. McMuldroch 1876 - b: Abt. 1876 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 Jane McMuldroch 1878 - b: Abt. 1878 in Kilmarnock ........................................... 4 Isabella McMuldroch 1882 - b: 1882 ............................................... +John Caldwell Whitehead m: 1907 ............................ 3 Margaret Richmond Mitchell 1837 - b: 29 December 1837 ............................ 3 Helen Mitchell 1841 - b: 1 February 1841 Occupation: 1861 Housekeeper ............. 2 John Richmond 1801 - b: 8 April 1801 ................. +Agnes Brown m: 19 December 1823 ............................ 3 James Richmond 1824 - b: 12 October 1824 ............................ 3 Hugh Richmond 1826 - b: 6 June 1826 ............................ 3 John Richmond 1828 - b: 29 August 1828 ............................ 3 John Richmond 1830 - b: 21 July 1830 ............................ 3 Margaret Richmond 1831 - b: 18 September 1831 ............................ 3 Agnes Brown Richmond 1833 - b: 3 December 1833 ............................ 3 John Richmond 1837 - b: 24 April 1837 ............................ 3 Barbara Richmond 1839 - b: 17 July 1839 ............. 2 James Richmond 1803 - 1855 b: 16 August 1803 d: 10 March 1855 in Dalry, Ayrshire ................. +Janet Muir m: 7 February 1829 ............................ 3 Margaret Richmond 1829 - b: 29 May 1829 ............................ 3 John Richmond 1833 - b: 3 November 1833 ............................ 3 William Richmond 1837 - b: 27 March 1837 ............. 2 Thomas Richmond 1806 - b: 24 April 1806 Occupation: Bet. 1840 - 1850 Spade Maker ................. +Agnes Rowat ............................ 3 Andrew Brown Richmond 1847 - b: 29 December 1847 ............................ 3 Thomas Richmond 1850 - b: 8 May 1850 ............. 2 Janet Richmond 1808 - b: 29 May 1808 ................. +William Hopkin? 1807 - 1853 b: Abt. 1807 m: 30 October 1832 in Kilmarnock, Ayr Burial: 1853 St Andrews, Kilmarnock d: 25 October 1853 in Kilmarnock ............. 2 Agnes Richmond 1811 - b: 8 February 1811 ............. 2 Margaret Richmond 1813 - b: 15 July 1813 ............. 2 William Richmond 1816 - b: 22 June 1816

Hello David, These are my Lyles. 1. John Lyle born 1669 - not sure where he was born - married 1699 in Greenock to Margarit Lyle 2. John Lyle born 1700 in Greenock - married 1728 in Greenock to Isabell Forrest 3. Abraham/Abram Lyle born 1741 in Greenock - married 1774 in Greenock to Rachael McAulay 4. Abraham/Abram Lyle born 1783 in Greenock - married 1806 in Greenock to Mary Campbell 5. Robert Lyle born 1822 in Greenock - married 1848 in Greenock to Agnes Broadfoot 6. James Broadfoot Lyle born 1854 in Greenock - married 1881 in Blacksfriars, Glasgow but lived in Greenock, to Mary Ann Bowden 7. Robert Lyle born 1881 in Greenock. James Broadfoot and Mary Ann Bowden immigrated to the U. S. in 1884. Jeannie Cunningham

Hi There is a Oakshaw East Associate Congregation church in Hugh Wallis IGI site cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <claymore@execulink.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: [Renfrew] RE: Gaelic Church, Paisley > Hi David, > Thank you kindly for your e-mail. > I tried 'google' - although I did get a few St. Columba's Churches I didn't find the one I was looking for in Paisley. > St. Columba's (formerly Gaelic Chapel) in Oakshaw Street Paisley. > I will give it another try in case I overlooked it. > Thank you again. > Wilma - Canada > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

At 04:00 PM 2003-04-17 -0600, you wrote: >From: <claymore@execulink.com> > > I have written to nas.gov.uk. but in the meantime I thought I would ask > the list if anyone has any information on this Church - St. Columba's > (formerly Gaelic Chapel) Using Google search engine http://www.google.co.uk type in "st. columba's church paisley" Regards David B. Lyle

At 04:00 PM 2003-04-17 -0600, you wrote: >From: Jeanniesnick@aol.com > My Lyle family was from Greenock as well. My Lyle family came to > Greenock about >1670. Do you know the parents of Jane Lyle that you speak of? > >Jeannie Cunningham I too am interested in the Lyle name in Renfrewshire. Would be interested in your Lyle connections to compare with mine which now goes back to 1704 in Kilmacolm. Regards David B. Lyle

Hello List: Is there anyone on the list who is researching the surname RICHMOND anywhere in Renfrewshire any time at all during the 1800's. I'm particularly interested in the Paisley area, but all of Renfrew is of interest to me. I'd love to hear from any fellow Richmond Researchers. Phyllis, in Canada

Hi David, Thank you kindly for your e-mail. I tried 'google' - although I did get a few St. Columba's Churches I didn't find the one I was looking for in Paisley. St. Columba's (formerly Gaelic Chapel) in Oakshaw Street Paisley. I will give it another try in case I overlooked it. Thank you again. Wilma - Canada

In a message dated 4/17/03 3:33:25 PM GMT Daylight Time, claymore@execulink.com writes: > This week I found a copy of Proclamation and Marriages for one of my > ancestors in Paisley - Mary Ann McNeil. > Hi, Found your search for the above woman ..and the Paisley Gaelic Church very interesting. While looking for a witness to an ancestor's wedding I found her at her address as given which turned out to be the "Calside Gaelic Manse". You did not give a year for Mary Ann McNeil's Marriage to James Hutchison (book binder). So this information may or may not be helpful......but........ In the 1881 Census via IGI (FHL film 0203583 : GRO ref Volume 573 :Enum Dist 67 :Page 14) you will find the following Maggie McNeil:Head :occ Housekeeper:35 Unmarried b. Kilarrron,Argyll , Scotland Elizabeth McIntosh cousin: Scholar: 15 Born Paisley Mary McIntosh:cousin:Scholar: 13 Born Paisley(probably thewitnessof 'my' wed1907) Duncan McIntosh:cousin: scholar: 11 b. Paisley Hugh McIntosh: cousin:Scholar: 10 b. Paisley b. Paisley Annie McIver servant:occ servant: U 23 b. Wig Lewis, Inverness Duncan Graham visitor :Minister Free Church: 51 U b. Knapdale ,Argyll, Scotland Alex McNeil brother: Forester U 23 b. * Kilarrow, Argyll, Scotland ( * possibly error ? Kilarron Argyll..as per Maggie above) It is further interesting to note that the next entry in the said census is for 12 Thread Street, Abbey, Renfrew Scotland. FHL film 0203584 GRRO ref Volume EnumDist 88 page 9 Andrew McIntosh head: Occ Currier: M 39 b. Crosslee, Renfrew, Scotland that is where I stopped printing the Census...so have no more information. I have been very interested in the above Mary McIntosh for she is the only long term friend to my g/mother who was married in Paisley in 1907. It seems they had been friends for 'years' having met in service somewhere. My Grandmother was/is in herself a great mystery to me...and very much MY brick wall for 20 odd years. I shall now check the rest of that 1881 Census re: Andrew McIntosh and write back directly to you if suitable? Possibly Mary Anne was called Maggie..who knows?? Perhaps the mystery of the McNeils, the Gaelic Manse & and the McIntoshes is all somehow intertwined??? I wonder???? Contact me directly if you wish. Moira in Scotland (Moirac40@aol.com)

Does anyone connect with the following family? 1 Janet (aka Jessie) BARBOUR b: 16-Feb-1836 in Houston d: 29-May-1928 in Eastwood .. married Colin Campbell GOVAN b: 16-Sep-1836 in Pollockshaws d: Bef. 1901 Children Janet (aka Jessie) Adam GOVAN b: Abt. 1860 in Houston d: 04-Nov-1889 in Kilbarchan (who married Thomas Alexander ROSS b: Abt. 1854 in England) Jean Campbell GOVAN b: 27-Apr-1862 in Shawlands Christina Ritchie GOVAN b: 20-Jul-1864 in Strathbungo Colina GOVAN b: 17-Jun-1867 in Strathbungo Elizabeth GOVAN b: 20-Mar-1869 in Strathbungo Mary GOVAN b: 19-Nov-1870 in Strathbungo John GOVAN b: 05-Feb-1873 in Strathbungo Helen GOVAN b: Abt. 1875 in Houston William GOVAN b: Abt. 1878 in Houston I would also appreciate advice on the Scottish naming convention The first three children were girls 1. Janet ADAM Govan - named after maternal grandmother as expected 2. Jean CAMPBELL Govan - named after paternal grandmother as expected 3. Christina RITCHIE Govan - where would RITCHIE have come from? The next three were girls too !! Stuart ADAM

Jeannie, Sorry, I have no information on Jane Lyle's ancestors. There were 1195 Lyles in Lowland Scotland in 1881, 346 of them living in Renfrewshire. I do have a note of 7 other Lyles who married Houstons - but no info on any of their parents. Regards Charles --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/2003

Hello Listers, I am new to this list and looking for any data on Mary Miller b. abt 1829 to 1831 in Greenock, Renfrew. Parents maybe, John Miller and Agnes McMillan. Allegedly married Andrew Ferryer in the Borders early 1850's. This is a brick wall, so any help appreciated. Jean.

Charles, I found your post about the Lyle and Houston family from Greenock. My Lyle family was from Greenock as well. My Lyle family came to Greenock about 1670. Do you know the parents of Jane Lyle that you speak of? Jeannie Cunningham

Hi Listers, This week I found a copy of Proclamation and Marriages for one of my ancestors in Paisley - Mary Ann McNeil. Her father is my brick wall and just maybe I have found a clue as to why I cannot get any information on him. *James McHutchison, Bookbinder, residing Abbey St & Mary Ann McNeil of Thread St both in this parish have been regularly proclaimed in order to marriage: & no objection made. 3 days. Married 1 August by John Campbell Minister of the Gaelic Church Paisley.* Would anyone know anything about this "Gaelic Church"? I have written to nas.gov.uk. but in the meantime I thought I would ask the list if anyone has any information on this Church - St. Columba's (formerly Gaelic Chapel) There are 3 more names on the page and would willingly pass along the information. Hill & Craig (Primitive Methodist Society, Paisley) McCann & Kilday Burnet & Manson (Parish of Kilbarchan) Any assistance would grealy be appreciated. Regards Wilma - Canada

my 3x grandfather was Daniel McGowan born Ireland about 1830 he married Margaret Cochran in Johnstone 1850 his kids were: daniel, neil, john, margaret, james, joseph, thomas they came to the USA Pennsylvania area abt 1869 I hope to find other family members to Daniel Sherry

Hi John, Thanks for your post - I am researching Houstons from Scotland. This is your family file as I now have it. Regards Charles --------------------------------------------------- Descendants of William HOUSTON Generation No. 1 1. William1 HOUSTON was born Abt. 1797 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland?. He married Jane LYLE 26 December 1820 in West Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland 7308805 M115648. She was born Abt. 1801 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland?. Children of William HOUSTON and Jane LYLE are: 2 i. Robert2 HOUSTON, born 9 April 1822 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland C119575. 3 ii. William HOUSTON, born 14 December 1823 in West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland RE: Scots Origins OPR. + 4 iii. George HOUSTON, born 5 November 1825 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland C119575. 5 iv. Margaret HOUSTON, born 9 August 1827 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland FHL Film 1041063; Emigrated to Australia bet 1840 - 1850. She married Christian BLORN; born Abt. 1823. 6 v. Eliza Ann HOUSTON, born 6 May 1829 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland FHL Film 10410. Generation No. 2 4. George2 HOUSTON (William1) was born 5 November 1825 in Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland C119575. He married Mary WEIR. She was born Abt. 1829 in Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland ?. Child of George HOUSTON and Mary WEIR is: 7 i. Maryann Stuart3 HOUSTON, born Abt. 4 December 1853 in Sir Michael Street United Presbyterian, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland C191001. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 25/02/2003

My GGGP's were married 1854 not 1954!!!!! Regards John Fordham

Hi List, I am also new to this list and was wondering if I can be helped with some info?? My GGG M was Margaret Houston, born 1823?, to William Houston and Janet Lyle. She moved to Australia sometime in 1840/50 with some of her family. One the way over she fell in love with the firstmate of the ship, Christian Blom, and they were married in 1954. TIA John Fordham Sunny Newcastle Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Joy Lyle" <d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Re: Lyle Interests > At 01:04 AM 2003-04-15 -0600, you wrote: > >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:04:24 -0700 > >From: Elenore Chamberland <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Hi David: > >Mymain interest in the Lyule family is Isobel Lyle d/o David Lyle and > >Margaret Lang who married James Laird s/o Alexander Laird and Janet Laird > >8 May 1794. at Kilmalcolm. > > Isobel (Isabell) Lyle has two dates for her marriage and I believe there is > a transcription error in it as the first date is shown as 25 April 1793 > (marriage banns?). The second marriage date is listed as you said 8th May > 1794. Someone else may have the answer for this one I hope. > > >David and Margaret were married 12 March 1763 at Kilmalcolm but I have yet > >to find their parents. > > This marriage is listed as 12 January 1765 on the IGI. > David Lyle was born 31 October 1731. > His parents were David Lyle & Janet Lyle who married 21st August 1729. > Margaret Lang birth unknown, father was James Lang. > > >I am also looking for the parents of MaryLyle who married James Holm 22 > >June 1801 at Houston but their children were all baptized at Kilmalcolm. > > > >I have another more recent Lyle family of interest. John Boyd Lyle s/o > >William Lyle and Christine McIntyre. ,married Grace Love Pollock d/o > >Walter Pollock and Mary Ann Simpson 7 June 1894 at Port Glasgow. Grace > >Love Pollock was my grandfather's sister. > > There are three marriages listed for a John Lyle in 1894. > Would the Port-Glasgow Entry No. 51 be your John Boyd Lyle? > I would be interested to know where the Boyd name came in? > > > >Elenore > > I would like to see your Lyle GEDCOM file as I am confused now. Are all the > above linked to you or are you just fishing for all Lyle names in the > Kilmacolm area? My line goes back to David & Janet Lyle 1731. Please send > to my email address. > > > Regards > > David B. Lyle > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > > >

At 01:04 AM 2003-04-15 -0600, you wrote: >>Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:33:05 -0700 >>From: Elenore Chamberland <elenorec@mail.ocis.net> >> >>It is keeping me busy trying to trace the correct families. I have the >>film in for Kilmalcolm at the FHC but have found a lot of it very >>difficult to read, faded ink, etc. Elenore, I would be very interested in all of the Lyle name on that film please. Would like to compare it with what I already have. Will also try to help you with anything else that I have on my Lyle database. Regards David Bratchie Lyle - Perth, Western Australia d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au Researching for :- BRATCHIE, BROTCHIE, CREDIDIO, GIBBINS, LAIRD, LYLE, MELLING, MITCHELL, TAYLOR Genealogy - Forever looking backwards