Jackie, I think around the Renfrew area - this based on the fact that they lived near a port, and there were stone quarries around there. Hugh Young Jr. stated on his passport that he departed Scotland from Grennock. Doesn't necessarily mean he lived ther tho. Thanks again for your interest. Juanita

Hi Moira - no I don't know when he was born - his son was born 1834 (this according to son's death cert, but I think he lied about his age). However, HY Sr. 's death would have been around 1845. I know this is thin information, but I do keep butting my head against the brick wall! Regards, Juanita

Hi there, yes I'd be happy to look for him. On past evidence I'd expect there to be about thirty with his name, of whom half would be Scottish, some will have put Scotland, some Renfrewshire and maybe some would have put Glasgow! Do you have a date of birth for him? Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyndy Cotton" <cyndy_cotton@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:50 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Re: merchant seamen > Moira > > Any details about my Great-Uncle Andrew ROSS from Paisley would be greatly > appreciated. He was a Merchant Seaman during WW1. > > Many thanks, > > Cyndy > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Moira Any details about my Great-Uncle Andrew ROSS from Paisley would be greatly appreciated. He was a Merchant Seaman during WW1. Many thanks, Cyndy _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Juanita, Are your Carruths/Campbells from somewhere in Renfrew or just somewhere in Scotland? I haven't had a chance to go thru my Carruth reference info but I will and see if anything matches up. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <JuanitaPatterson@cs.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Carruth/Campbell/Shaw - "Mariners" web address > Hi Jackie, sorry to be so late getting back to iyou, but I was ready to toss > my computer into the bay last night! > > My Campbells: Elizabeth Carruth b Scotland c 1814 married a Hugh Young, b > Scotland-he was a "seaman" . They had one son, Hugh Young Jr. b Scotland c > 1834. Hustand Hugh Young was lost at sea c 1844. She and her small son lived > on some Campbell property and ___Campbell (believe William lShaw Campbell) > saw her when the Campbell bailiff was getting ready to evict them. Campbell > saw her- she was very beautiful and he married her. They had 1 son John > Graine Campbell (my gggf). John came to US c 1868. he was born Scotland 1845 > (based on Parker County Texas 1880 census which listed his age as 33). John > studied law in Scotland but became a mason in this country. > I think we are the last of the line. I had hoped fo find some distant cousins > in Scotland, but I can't get to place in Scotland where all the things took > place. > I have been to SRO several times (costing $$$) - evidently they lived in an > area where the parish registers have not yet been inclused at SRO. > > Does any of this sound familiar to you? Too bad this was not a large family > so that there would be Campbells of this branch all over. This is my brick > wall and I keep hoping for a miracle. > > Regards, > Juanita > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

Moira, appreciate your letting me know. My period of interest is around 1844. If you perchance ever see anything for that period of time will you let me know? Many thanks. Juanita

Hi there, I know now the archive only includes seamen still at sea in 1918 (however old they were then). If any of your names fit that category then I'm happy to look. however if they are earlier i'm sorry but they wont be there. Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Joy Lyle" <d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: [Renfrew] merchant seamen > Moira, > I think you have opened a Pandora's Box here. Are these records searchable > via Internet and can anybody look at them? If not I have four names for you > please. Credidio, Bratchie, Brotchie & Lyle. Your help would be most > appreciated if you have the time. > >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 09:28:47 +0100 > >From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > >Dear Marjorie, > > I understand that going to Kew with just a name is > >likely to be a long and tedious process. If Robert was a fisherman you have > >no choice, but if he was a merchant seaman, especially if he got a ticket as > >a mate or similar then he might be in my local archives. Then you'd have a > >number for him too. > > These are free to search. > >Do you have a date of birth and place of birth for Robert, > >If so I will have a look for you. > > Moira > > Regards > > David B. Lyle > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > > >

hi need help tracing these ppl Andrew Carson b abt 1810 married Margaret Morrison b abt 1812 they had a son William Carson born 31st march 1834 renfrew William emigrated somewhere between 1834-60 to new Zealand and married Janet Lawrence in Kaitangata otago New Zealand so any help would be wonderful steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 18/04/2003

Hello Trevor, The 2 main Paisley cemeteries used at present are - HAWKHEAD - opened 1891 - to date nearly 79,000 burials. (Hawkhead Road, Paisley) WOODSIDE - opened 1845 - to date over 76,000 burials (now mainly cremations) (46 Broomlands Street, Paisley) For burial information, contact - Hawkhead Cemetery Records, Environmental Services Dept., South Building, Cotton St., PAISLEY, PA1 1UG, Renfrewshire, Scotland. (Tel. 0141 840 3504) Woodside Cemetery & Crematorium, 46 Broomlands St., PAISLEY, PA1 2NP, Renfrewshire, Scotland. (Tel. 0141 889 2260 or 0141 889 9283) They can give the exact Section & Lair No. in the cemetery, but only if the name & date of death is known - there's no name index. However, if the name of the Lair Owner is known, they can find details of a particular grave. With my own queries, the staff in both places have at all times been very courteous and helpful. Jack

Hi Jackie, sorry to be so late getting back to iyou, but I was ready to toss my computer into the bay last night! My Campbells: Elizabeth Carruth b Scotland c 1814 married a Hugh Young, b Scotland-he was a "seaman" . They had one son, Hugh Young Jr. b Scotland c 1834. Hustand Hugh Young was lost at sea c 1844. She and her small son lived on some Campbell property and ___Campbell (believe William lShaw Campbell) saw her when the Campbell bailiff was getting ready to evict them. Campbell saw her- she was very beautiful and he married her. They had 1 son John Graine Campbell (my gggf). John came to US c 1868. he was born Scotland 1845 (based on Parker County Texas 1880 census which listed his age as 33). John studied law in Scotland but became a mason in this country. I think we are the last of the line. I had hoped fo find some distant cousins in Scotland, but I can't get to place in Scotland where all the things took place. I have been to SRO several times (costing $$$) - evidently they lived in an area where the parish registers have not yet been inclused at SRO. Does any of this sound familiar to you? Too bad this was not a large family so that there would be Campbells of this branch all over. This is my brick wall and I keep hoping for a miracle. Regards, Juanita

Hi folks I have been off list for a while but thought I would post these baptisms from St Paul Presbyterian Church in Auckland in 1849. These were families that were first imigrants from ships from Greenock from the early 1840's when Auckland was just a beach and volcanic mountains. They would have come from boats such as the "Duchess of Argyle" and the "Jane Gifford" both left Greenock in early 1842 ariving Oct 9th 1842. There will be lots more- this is only 2 pages of the register- my rellies were McIntosh and Munro. I could see if I can transcribe more if anyone is interested, or want me to do a look up. The Auckland Minister of this time was Rev John F. CHURTON. The baptisms without his name were baptised in Scotland and placed on the Auckland register: PAGE 13 MCINNESS: Thomas born May 22 1836, Baptised July 11th by Revd James LANG " Anne ' Mar 25th 1829, Baptised April 23rd by Revd P LEARY " Bridget ' Aug 3rd 1832, Baptised Aug 19th by Revd Dr ADAMSON Children of Lachlan MCINNES, born March 1798, baptised by Rev Donald MCKINNON MCINTOSH; Marion born May 1842, Baptised by Revd Mr BREWSTER, Paisley " Peter " Dec 1845, Bapt by Revd Mr CHURTON " Daniel " March 1847 " " " " " " Janet " April 1849 " " " " " Children of James McIntosh, from Paisley, Scotland and Christina MUNRO his spouse. MACINTOSH James born Aug 1845 Bapt by Revd W. LAWRY " Mary " Feb 1847 " " " " " Children of James MACINTOSH from Paisley, born Aug 1820, baptised by Revd J. RANKIN and Mary MACINTOSH his spouse born 1821 MCINTOSH George Born April 29th 1846 Bapt Feb 25th 1849 by Revd G.A. PANTON " John Gunn Born Jan 6th 1849 Bapt " " " " " " " " Children of William MCINTOSH, from Glasgow, and Isabella MCINTOSH his spouse MCINTYRE Catherine born April 29th 1829 Bapt May 7th in the army? " Eliza " July 16th 1830 " July 20th " " " " John " Nov 12th 1832 " Nov 27th " " " " jean " June 26th 1841 " June 30th at sea Children of John MCINTYRE, from Paisley, born Oct 1805, bapt Oct 16th 1805, by Revd Dr. BEGG, and Mrs MCINTYRE, his spouse,born Sept 6th 1806 PAGE 16 Continued from previous page MILLER Margaret born Aug 20th 1847, Bapt Oct 1847, by Revd J CHURTON Children of James MILLER, from Lochwinnoch, Scotland and Janet LAURIE, his spouse, born Paisley MORRISON James born Jan 3rd 1844, Bapt in April by Revd W. CAMSIE Son of John morrison, from Paisley Scotland and......Unreadable MUNRO Ellen born Aug 12th 1831 " Margaret " May 12th 1838 " Daniel " May 7th 1840 " Catherine " June 7th 1842, Baptised by Revd John F. CHURTON Children of Daniel MUNRO, from Paisley, Scotland, born Oct 12th 1804, and Elizabeth CONNEL, his spouse, born May 7th 1807 NELSON Agnes born June 28th 1838, baptised July 1838 by Revd J EDWARDS, Glasgow " Janet born Jan 3rd 1841, bapt Feb 1841 by Revd N WOON, Hokianga (N.Z) " Catherine born Oct 14th 1844 " Nov 1844 " " " " " " " Christina " April 28th 1848 Bapt (blank) Children of James NELSON from Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Agnes NELSON his spouse Donna Aitken Auckland New Zealand

Hi Juanita, Web addresses were never designed to be user friendly, they are strictly for computers to hassle with!! You shouldn't ever need to work it out on your own keyboard, just click on the address I sent you, i.e.: http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ which will take you to the site, after which you can bookmark it as a favourite. All done without you ever having to take the trouble of typing it out yourself. If you want to send it to someone else, then just use the 'copy' facility, don't try to retype it. HTH Brian

I have an Elizabeth Scott from Rauntree Hill (Roundrtree?), b. appx. 1732, married to Alexander Laird July 25, 1753. Children: James Laird, Helen Laird, Alexander Laird, Robert Laird, William Laird, Joseph C. Laird, Another Joseph, John, and Thomas. Unfortunately, I have no record of her parent's names, which I would like to get. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cjfar2cool2@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:02 PM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re [Renfrew] UPDATE ON NAMES I AM RESEARCHING IN RENFREWSHIRE Hi, I have a James McCready who marries a Stewart SCOTT in Paisley in the year 1819. Stewart SCOTT's parents are James SCOTT and Margaret Robertson. Is there any connection to your list. Chris McCready ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.htmlGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Jackie, just rec'd your e-mail. I want to think about this and answer when I have my wits about me - I have been on this computer so long that my eyes are glazing over. More later. But --- yes, these things do tie in don't they? Regards, Juanita

Brian, thanks for your kind words of advice. I have learned something! Juanita

Jackie, thanks - going to get right to it! Juanita

Someone furnished address: http://www.mariners-1.co.uk/ - I could not find a symbol -1 except the number. Would someone be aable to tell me where on my keyboard to find the perpendicular bar following mariners-?. Sorry to be so stupid but have searched my keyboard w/no luck. Many thanks J.

Hi, They are not on line, I dont mind doing some look ups. The Archives are open tues to friday so its a lunch hour job. I found one out of two of my own and nil out of one for a friend, so no guarantees! Three out of four of your names are unusual which helps. Can you give me first anems and dates of birth to go with them please. Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Joy Lyle" <d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: [Renfrew] merchant seamen > Moira, > I think you have opened a Pandora's Box here. Are these records searchable > via Internet and can anybody look at them? If not I have four names for you > please. Credidio, Bratchie, Brotchie & Lyle. Your help would be most > appreciated if you have the time. > >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 09:28:47 +0100 > >From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > >Dear Marjorie, > > I understand that going to Kew with just a name is > >likely to be a long and tedious process. If Robert was a fisherman you have > >no choice, but if he was a merchant seaman, especially if he got a ticket as > >a mate or similar then he might be in my local archives. Then you'd have a > >number for him too. > > These are free to search. > >Do you have a date of birth and place of birth for Robert, > >If so I will have a look for you. > > Moira > > Regards > > David B. Lyle > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > > >

Hi, I have a James McCready who marries a Stewart SCOTT in Paisley in the year 1819. Stewart SCOTT's parents are James SCOTT and Margaret Robertson. Is there any connection to your list. Chris McCready

Hi again Juanita, I was reading thru some recent postings you made. This is strange. I have Carruths from Paisley, who were originally from Houston & Killellan, Renfrew. I also have a Carruth/Campbell cousin connection (that I haven't quite pieced together yet). In another closely related family line, I have a William Shaw who married into the family. We have a lot of names in common, don't you think. I haven't made it back as far as you yet, my dates, so far, are 1850-1900's. Any of this sound familiar to you? Any of your Carruth or Campbell's have a connection to Houston & Killellan or Paisley? Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA