Hi Julie, how wonderful of you to do this. I am looking for; ANGUS CHISHOLM married to MARGARET " (nee Campbell) brn Lochaber, Inverness 1821/23 JOHN " " Nitshill, Renfrewshire abt. 1846 Charles " " " " " " If you could have a look for me, no rush, they are not going anywhere. Many Thanks Kind Regards Jeanette ( from Pitlochry)

Hi Jeanette, Are your Chisholm's from Paisley? Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Janoch2000@aol.com> > ANGUS CHISHOLM married to > > MARGARET " (nee Campbell) brn Lochaber, Inverness 1821/23 > > JOHN " " Nitshill, Renfrewshire > abt. 1846 > > Charles " " " " > " " > Jeanette ( from Pitlochry)

Hi Robbie, glad to have helped, you are very welcome. If you need further help, just ask. Kind Regards Jeanette

Hi, Julie...I would really appreciate a look up in census information (1841) and 1851 on: James STIRRAT b. June 6, 1779 in Abbey, Renfrew m. Catherine McDOUGAL (Dugal) b. May 12, 1779 in Paisley Renfrew m. December 17 1819 in Abbey Paisley Church, Paisley, Renfrew I haven't been able to pin down parents of James, but think it may have been ROBERT STIRRAT (STIRRET) with wife JEAN SMITH (?) Thanks in advance for your help! Grace (Stirrat) Hicks Roswell, GA ghicks3973@aol.com

Hi Julie, Could I please impose on you in respect of a lookup on the 1851 census index for Renfrew. I am looking for the family of WILLIAM MCAUSLAND/MACAUSLAND born circa 1856 at Paisley his father was GEORGE LEMON MCAUSLAND date of birth unknown but I would estimate it to be circa 1820's + or -. Thanking you in anticipation. Best Wishes, Brian in Bedminster, Bristol, England Family History Webpage: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/n/Brian-Jones/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 11 May 2003 19:11 Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Chris, > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has been > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the microfiche, > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > Julie Dufault > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

Broadcast times for the BBC-Radio Scotland series, "The Lowland Clearances", are: Sundays, 11:00 am UK time: --May 18, 2003 --May 25, 2003 --June 1, 2003 Each program will also be repeated on the following Saturday at 20:30 UK time: --May 24, 2003 --May 31, 2003 --June 7, 2003 A good portion of the series is based on the experiences of some Ayrshire Scots who went to Scarborough, Ontario. In January this year, BBC-Radio Scotland interviewed the McCowan family in Canada, tracing the family's movements from Cumnock, Ayrshire, to Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire in 1799 and, finally, to Scarborough, Canada in 1833. Many families migrated from rural Ayrshire to the new industrial towns in Renfrewshire -- this is their story too. Further information is available at www.mccowan.org or by email at bea@beamccowan.com The James McCowan Memorial Social History Society endeavours to keep Canada's Scottish heritage both vibrant and valued through various publications and projects, briefly described at www.mccowan.org. Bea and Bruce McCowan 416-447-4895 bea@beamccowan.com www.scarboroughrecord.com

Hi Julie; Could you see what is on the 1851 index for John Polson b.6 Apr 1847 Greenock Renfrew Sct and Agnes Crawford b. 29 June 1847 Nielston Renfrew Sct. I would much appreciate it Don McCarter Concord N.H. (we must be neighbors) Ken & Julie Dufault wrote: > Chris, > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has been > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the microfiche, > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > Julie Dufault > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew

Dear Jeanette, I think you have found my great grandparents, the Ingleston street is of the same number that is written on my fathers birth/cert.As my grandparents children had the same names.All i could say when i read your email mail was( oh my god), now we know none of them came from another planet. If i knew where you live a would send you a bunch of flowers to say a big THANK YOU, Well i better go and ring my brother and tell him the news.Many many thanks again.this is the best mothers day present i have ever had. Yours Robbie Fleming Aust robbiefleming63@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Julie, how is the 1851 census indexed - by name of entire family or just head of family?Also do you ( or anyone) know how the name of a woman who had been married twice woould be listed? For example would she be mrs Elizabeth Young(1sthusband)Campbell(2nd husband). or just Elizabeth Campbell? Also would the death certificate of this person use both names or perhaps even include her maiden name? Would appreciate ANY help from anyone. Many thanks! Juanita Patterson Mobile, Ala jjuanitapatterson@cs.com

Hi Juanita, The Death Certificates I have found for a married lady are something like this: "Elizabeth Cambell (widow of/wife of William Shaw Campbell, husband's occupation) ......Father: (father's name, occupation, if deceased).....Mother: (mothers married name & maiden name)" When a family member or someone is left to give the coroner the father/mother info, then the death registry does list/index her as both Elizabeth Campbell and also by her maiden name Elizabeth Carruth. Believe it or not, I actually tried a death lookup at Scotlands People on a grgrandmother with a very common name by her married name and then by her maiden name and found her under each name with the same GRO codes...that is how I narrowed down which one was her. In case you are interested, here is a a transcript of a death certificate from my notes for my GrAunt, who was married twice. This will let you see the typical info on a death certificate from Renfrew....also she is listed in the death index as both Elizabeth Killin and Elizabeth Fleming. GRO 564/01 0486 Death search on Elizabeth Fleming (Killin) 1941, Female, 82 yrs, Greenock East 1941-DEATH: Elizabeth Fleming, Widow of Fergus Fleming, a Tugboatman, 3 November 1941 at 8h.10m. PM, 10 MacDougall Street, Greenock, female, 82 yrs old. Father: Andrew Killin, a Shoemaker, (dec.). Mother: Sarah Killin m/s PAUL, (dec.). Elizabeth died of Intestinal Carcinoma. As Certified by W.A. Milne, M.B. Informant: Margaret Keane (signed), Niece, Present. Registered 5 November 1941 at Greenock by J.W. MacPhail, Registrar. Also the 1851 census index lists each household member and their age, but wouldn't give a married lady's maiden name. Hope this helps, Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <JuanitaPatterson@cs.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Julie, how is the 1851 census indexed - by name of entire family or just head > of family?Also do you ( or anyone) know how the name of a woman who had been > married twice woould be listed? For example would she be mrs Elizabeth > Young(1sthusband)Campbell(2nd husband). or just Elizabeth Campbell? Also > would the death certificate of this person use both names or perhaps even > include her maiden name? Would appreciate ANY help from anyone. Many thanks! > > Juanita Patterson > Mobile, Ala

Chris, The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has been indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the microfiche, which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. Julie Dufault Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA

Hi Everyone, does anyone know if the 1841 and 1851 census is on a CD and if so where can I purchase it from. As I am searching for James McCready and Stewart Scot they married in Paisley in 1819. Thanks Chris McCready

Hi Robbie, I had a look on the 1881 census for your JOHN FLEMING. I did not have his age, but I found this. Dwelling 19, Ingleston St. Greenock, Renfrew,Scotland Source FHL Film 0203572 GRO Ref Volume 564-2 Enum-Dist 23 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace HUMPHRY G FLEMING M 46 M Glasgow, Lanark Rel: Head Occ. Engine Fitter ELIZABETH " M 44 F Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire Rel; Wife ROBERT " U 21 M Greenock " Rel; Son Occ. Coppersmith ISABELLA " U 19 F " " Rel; Dau Occ; not stated ALEXANDER " 14 M " " Rel; Son Occ; Message Boy ELIZABETH " 12 F " " Rel; Dau Occ; Scholar JOHN " 4 M " " Rel; Son MARIE ANCKIESON 1month " " Rel; Grand/Dau Hope this helps. Kind Regards Jeanette

Lois, In Paisley library, there is an index to the Paisley Incorporation of Weavers from around 1702 - 1940+. As best I understand, there are a number records kept, e.g. cash books, minutes, record of memberships, and assistance provided to families. Most of these records are on microfilm, but I was not able to arrange for an inter-library loan. From what I saw there are about two hundred pages of information on each of several films. I suggest you need to get someone local to go there and look the records up. Maybe someone else on the list has done this before and can comment on the quality of information? Regards, Stuart Adam Aberdeen, Scotland From: "Lois McNaught" <lois.mcnaught@cogeco.ca> Subject: [Renfrew] Old Weavers in Paisley Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 10:03:01 -0400 Hi All, Does anyone know where there is a list of members of the Incorporation of Old Weavers in Paisley? I'm looking for my great-great-great-grandfather, Peter McNAUGHT, who was born about 1754 in Low Church, Paisley, and there is a strong possibility he was a weaver. Any information greatly appreciated. Lois McNaught Ontario, Canada

Thanks Robbie, I dont think they're any connection to mine. Jacqui robbie fleming <robbiefleming63@hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Jacqui, the only info i have on my grandmother is printed on my mothers birth/cert so here it is. Mary Beggs Kerr Nelson Square Wishaw and that was back in may the 4th 1924, my mother was born Bessie sutherland kerr november 29th 1920 at Omoa house cleland,so as you can see thats all the info i have on her. My mother was either fostered or adopted as she had later on in life a couple of other sir names after Kerr it was Mcalpine then Rankin, i dont know of the first name for the Mcalpine but the Rankin was Harry, I cant even tell you when Mary passed away, So as you can see i dont have much to go on. Then mum married my father Alexander Fleming on the 24th october 1941. I hope you can any help in that lot, but iam starting think mary aws from anther planet as i have hit a brick wall. Yours Robbie(Aust) good luck _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire Query board is at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience

Hi Louise I don't think that I can really help you at this time,but I noticed that you do have the name Kerr in your research. My Kerr is my great-great-grandmother who I was always told was "Grace Kerr who was born about 1789 and married Charles Macdonald who was born about 1792.Their son was born about 1813/14. I think that it is them in the IGI's alright.With her christening date as 6 Dec 1789 at the Abbey,Paisley,Renfrew,Scotland,and his birth in Greenoch,Renfrew,Scotland on 17 Jun 1792.Their is a marriage listed for them at the Abbey on 11 Jul 1811,but she is listed as Grizal Keir both times.Also I have found a possible birth for their daughter were she is listed as Grace Carr ! I know your Janet Kier was christened about 10 years before my Grace or Grizal was born, but possibly they were cousins.The one I have was a daughter to Alexander Keir and Agnes Craig and I have only found a sister Helen listed as well as a son Alexander.I am still trying to figure if this is the right couple by doing research at the FHC at the LDS church. If by chance any of this sounds familiar at all please let me know.Thanks. Kind Regards Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Lynch" <llynch@haymarket.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Re:Finding Family > Hello everyone, > > I am researching the following- PEACOCK John c1796 married ANGUS Margaret c1771 > ANGUS John c1749 married MCDONALD > Catherine > NOTMAN Robert married CROOKS Margaret > c1779 > HASTIE Archibald c1784 married KERR > or KIER Janet c1779 > MCFARLANE Margaret c1817 > > Almost all are from Paisley Renfrew -that far off place from which many of > my ancestors come! All help would be much appreciated. > > Many thanks, > > Louise in Perth Western Australia > > At 03:20 PM 5/05/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello Everyone > > > >Just a quick note to tell you that when you get a query for a name and you > >don't think it is yours,read it anyway,because this is what happened to me > >about two weeks ago.I was about to hit the delete when for some reason I > >decided to finish reading it. > >As it turned out there were a lot of names at the bottom of the letter > >being researched and one of them was in my paternal line. > >I sent off a query to that person and although she couldn't match us up > >right away she gave me the name and address of a person who appeared to be > >in my line, and sure enough we are cousins ! > > > >Kind Regards > > > >Elizabeth wehc@sprint.ca > > > >Names being researched are MACDONALD,McDONALD,KERR,KEIR,CARR,McCULLOCH, > >mostly in Renfrew,and Lanark, but could be anywhere in Scotland ! Also > >DUNCAN,GILLESPIE,BENNIE,BINNIE,BAIRD,MAXWELL,and SINCLAIR,mostly in Stirling, > >Midlothian,and West Lothian,but again they could be anywhere in Scotland ! > > > > > >==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > >********************************************************************** > >The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ >

Dear Jackie, Well my Flemings did come from Greenock. My fathers birth/cert states Alexander Mcdougall Fleming born 24th dec 1912 at Ingleston street Greenock My grandfather was John Mcdougll Fleming (blacksmith journeymen) and my grand mother was Barbara Thompson Fleming i take it that they were married 2nd october 1899 bridge of wier. My father had 3 other brothers Jack, Bill, and Walter.There were two girls as well but they passed away at a early age and there was another son as well, i know his name was Robert,hence the Roberta as they named me.Iam sorry i dont have any dates anywhere on my grandparents which makes my job to find out if i have any other family out there really hard. I hope you have some luck. Yours Robbie Fleming (Aust) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

Dear Jacqui, the only info i have on my grandmother is printed on my mothers birth/cert so here it is. Mary Beggs Kerr Nelson Square Wishaw and that was back in may the 4th 1924, my mother was born Bessie sutherland kerr november 29th 1920 at Omoa house cleland,so as you can see thats all the info i have on her. My mother was either fostered or adopted as she had later on in life a couple of other sir names after Kerr it was Mcalpine then Rankin, i dont know of the first name for the Mcalpine but the Rankin was Harry, I cant even tell you when Mary passed away, So as you can see i dont have much to go on. Then mum married my father Alexander Fleming on the 24th october 1941. I hope you can any help in that lot, but iam starting think mary aws from anther planet as i have hit a brick wall. Yours Robbie(Aust) good luck _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

Hi List, I am new to the list and wondered if SKS can lookup the following on the 1851 census: WILLIAM MCAUSLAND/MACAUSLAND born circa 1856 at Paisley, Renfrewshire. His father was GEORGE LEMON MCAUSLAND date of birth unknown but I would estimate it to be circa 1820's + or -. Thanking you in anticipation. Best Wishes, Brian in Bedminster, Bristol, England Family History Webpage: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/n/Brian-Jones/

>From: "Elaine" <dear@mts.net> >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com I would like to know where your LYLE interests are from? Mine are from Kilmacolm, Renfrew. Regards David B. Lyle