Hi Kerri, I missed a Proclamation of Banns George JAAP - Marion BARBOUR both of this Parish - 22 Sept. 1839 - married 11, 1839 October by the Rev'd Mr. Graham. Regards Wilma - Canada RESEARCHING: M(a)CNEIL(L), LIVINGSTONE, ROBIN, McCOLL, McMILLAN, McPHERSON, HAY, ANDREW(s), DUNCAN, DRUMMOND, MANN, McMURRAY, BAXTER, NEILSON and many more

RESEARCHING: M(a)CNEIL(L), LIVINGSTONE, ROBIN, McCOLL, McMILLAN, McPHERSON, HAY, ANDREW(s), DUNCAN, DRUMMOND, MANN, McMURRAY, BAXTER, NEILSON and many more ----- Original Message ----- Subject: RE: SURNAME - JAAP Hi Kerri, A while back someone posted the surname JAAP, I am not sure if it was you. I happened to have a film for Paisley at my local FHC at that time and while looking through it for my own family I noticed the surname JAAP. I wrote down the little I found. Not sure if there will be a connection for you. I must have deleted the original e-mail so if this information does not fit your family it may help someone else. I will apologise if there are any mistakes but it sure would have helped if my writing was a bit neater. Marriage: STEWART/JAAP 3 Aug 1846, Peter STEWART Labourer-Abbey Street & Flora JAAP residing in Johnstone (Both of this Parish) registered to marry - Booked 18 July -3 days & married Paisley 7 August 1846 by Rec'd. Arch'd Baird -St.James' Street Chapel. PATERSON/JAAP - James Paterson - Dryer - 17 South Croft St & Flora JAAP 20 George St. Both of this Parish have been regularly proclaimed in order to marriage & no objection made, Booked 23 Nov - 3 days, Married 13th Dec by the Rev'd Alex Forrester, Minister of the Free Middle Church Paisley (Sorry I don't know why I have written 9 Dec. 1844 at the top of the page) Birth: JAAP Catherine DL of Matthew JAAP - Packing Master, Johnstone & Mary Lamont? (Lamon) B.30 Oct?-Registered 10 Nov 1841. JAAP Malcolm SL Matthew JAAP - Collier - Johnstone - Mary Lamond b.21 June? Registered 10 July? 1832. There wasn't always a month so I assumed the month from the entry above. JAAP Robert SL Robert JAAP - Flowerlasher - King Street - Jane Orr b.27 Oct? Registered Nov 7 1834. Baptism: Oct 4 1802 - John CRAWFORD 21 Joiner 38 Canal St.High/Jane JAAP Age 18-68 Canal St. High. Hope this info will be of use to you. Regards Wilma - Canada RESEARCHING: M(a)CNEIL(L), LIVINGSTONE, ROBIN, McCOLL, McMILLAN, McPHERSON, HAY, ANDREW(s), DUNCAN, DRUMMOND, MANN, McMURRAY, BAXTER, NEILSON and many more

Looking for census entry or entries for a JOHN JAAP. and wife Margaret in Paisley he was a Harness Tier and sometimes weaver born 1787 Paisley, Renfrew 1841 possible addresses either George Street or James Street 1851 possibly Broomlands St.... possibly spelled JAPP instead??? their children were James Jean Hannah Violet Richard any info gratefully appreciated Regards, Kerri _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

BROWN/PARK, Renfrew, Scotland, BROWN/DUNLOP, Renfrew, Scotland BROWN/WILKIE, Renfrew, Scotland ROBERTSON/BROWN, Renfrew, Scotland ROBERTSON/KEITH, Renfrew, Scotland ROBERTSON/HOARE, Renfrew, Scotland, Emerald Hill, Vic, Australia Cheers Jan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/03

Dear Listers, i have found some info that could be some family,well one can hope. their names are, Janet Johnston Mcewan born 27th dec 1925 Overton, Lanark death 11th jul 1992 John Mcewan born 25th jan 1922 Wishaw Lanark death 3 dec 1994 their parents were William Mcewan and May(mary)Kerr if any one is looking at these Mcewans i would love to hear from you. Yours Roberta Fleming robbiefleming63@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get five times more storage - 10MB in your Hotmail account. Go to http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au

Hello, I'm researching BARR in Renfrewshire, and I have in my database 4 MARGARET BARRs born between 1800 and 1823. The information comes from OPRs . They are: 1. Barr Margaret born 1819 parents JAMES BARR & MARGARET ALEXANDER . The parents were maried at Cathcart. 2. Barr Margaret born abt 1809 parents ARCHIBALD BARR & MARGARET DEWART 3. Barr Margaret born abt 1820 married JOHN WHITELAW 4. Barr Margaret born 1809 Kilwinning Ayrchire married EDWARD SHIRKY parents JAMES (JOHN?) BARR & AGNES LITTLEJOHN catherine

Moira Andrew was definately born in Paisley. Many thanks for looking up the Archives for me. Cyndy _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Please guys control your messages. The latest digest, SCT-RENFREW-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 129, contained five messages. Four of them took up the equivalent of 13 pages of print because you did not have the time to edit out what wasn't necessary. Please be a little considerate of others who pay by the minute for their downloads. It doesn't effect me but it sure is a pain having to scroll through all the repeated messages to read one ten line entry. 8-)) Regards David B. Lyle

Hello Jim, My WILLIAM BARR and JEAN BROWN were married in Johnstone (Abbey Parish) in 1823 and in 1841 lived in Walkinshaw Street, Johnstone a few doors from his brother JOHN and JEAN BARR. The men were masons and the women worked in the local cotton mill. Both families eldest children were 15 and 14 in 1841 so about half a generation out. Regards Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Baird" <jbaird@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] BARR and PATON in Johnstone (Abbey Paisley) > Hi Moira, > > I don't think I know enough about these ancestors (mine or yours) to make > any useful statement at this stage. Do you have anything further on your's? > > I do know that PATON was a very common name in the Paisley area (eg the > cotton spinning company of that name). > > I'm hoping Julie's lookups for the 1851 Census will shed a bit more light. > > ATB > Jim > in still stormy Western Australia > (tomorrow's golf might be at risk!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > Jim, > > Two people on my tree were given middle names of Barr and Paton in > > that order. The Paton is explicable as the birth surname of their father, > he > > was Robert Paton later Robert Paton Kerr as he was brought up by his Kerr > > grandparents and aunt, in Paisley > > I have not yet found a Barr connection. I am satisfied it is not in the > > direct line back from the family, but an important side link. Could it be > > the one you are researching? > > Moira > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Baird" <jbaird@hotmail.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > > > > Hi Julie, > > > > > > I've waited a little in the hope that the rush to take up your generous > > > offer will have died down a bit. > > > > > > If you are not already sick of doing lookups, I'd be grateful for any > > > information you can turn up on the PATON and BARR families in the town > of > > > Johnstone (this is in the parish of Abbey, Paisley) for 1841 and 1851. > > > > > > My g.g.grandparents Archibald PATON and Margaret BARR were married at > > Abbey > > > (Paisley) in 1841, but I've had some difficulty gleaning any other > > > information about them. > > > > > > I'm hoping you can find them and that any other information you can > supply > > > on PATON and BARR families in the area will help me to tie them in. > > > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > Jim > > > in stormy Western Australia > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:11 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look > at > > on > > > > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has > > > been > > > > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the > > > microfiche, > > > > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and > line > > > > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking > > for > > > > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names > and > > > > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > > > > > > > Julie Dufault > > > > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > > > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the Rootsweb lists go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

I am researching the family of Robert Stevenson (1762-1844) and Margaret Cochran (1763-1850) of the Parish of Beith. They were married in June 1787 at Beith. Several of their children ended up in Renfrewshire. The Stevenson children include: John (1788-1886) unmarried David (1791-1843) who married Jean Lockhart Jeanie (1793-1836) who married Rev. Andrew Symington 1811 (or 1814) Isabella (1794-1848) who married William Clark (my line) Jennet (or Janet) (1796-1864) who married Hugh Miller in 1814 Margaret (1798-1880) who married John Robertson of Browhill, Beith Elizabeth (1800-1883) who married James Cunningham and Andrew Brown Agnes (1801-1866) Robert (1803-1874) of Townhead, Beith Lillias (1805-1877) who married Walter Symington Mary (1805-18??) who Thomas Struthers Martha (1807-1896) who married James Caldwell of Rockfield, Paisley If anyone is researching any of these families, I would love to hear from you. Annette Fulford British Columbia

Dear listers, iam trying to find out what happened to all the flemings that lived at 19 Ingleston street Greenock this was back in 1881 head, Humphry fleming 46 years engine fitter wife, Elizabeth 44 years Children, Robert 21 years coppersmith Isabella 19 Alexander 14 Elizabeth 12 John 4 and a grandaughter Marie Anckieson at 1 month Parents????? If any one can look up the1891 census for me please i would be very greatful yours Roberta Fleming (robbie) Aust robbiefleming63@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. 30MB of storage on ninemsn Groups - great for sharing photos and documents. Go to http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au

Hi Moira, I don't think I know enough about these ancestors (mine or yours) to make any useful statement at this stage. Do you have anything further on your's? I do know that PATON was a very common name in the Paisley area (eg the cotton spinning company of that name). I'm hoping Julie's lookups for the 1851 Census will shed a bit more light. ATB Jim in still stormy Western Australia (tomorrow's golf might be at risk!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moira Ledger" <moira@maledger.fsnet.co.uk> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Jim, > Two people on my tree were given middle names of Barr and Paton in > that order. The Paton is explicable as the birth surname of their father, he > was Robert Paton later Robert Paton Kerr as he was brought up by his Kerr > grandparents and aunt, in Paisley > I have not yet found a Barr connection. I am satisfied it is not in the > direct line back from the family, but an important side link. Could it be > the one you are researching? > Moira > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Baird" <jbaird@hotmail.com> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > Hi Julie, > > > > I've waited a little in the hope that the rush to take up your generous > > offer will have died down a bit. > > > > If you are not already sick of doing lookups, I'd be grateful for any > > information you can turn up on the PATON and BARR families in the town of > > Johnstone (this is in the parish of Abbey, Paisley) for 1841 and 1851. > > > > My g.g.grandparents Archibald PATON and Margaret BARR were married at > Abbey > > (Paisley) in 1841, but I've had some difficulty gleaning any other > > information about them. > > > > I'm hoping you can find them and that any other information you can supply > > on PATON and BARR families in the area will help me to tie them in. > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Jim > > in stormy Western Australia > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:11 AM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at > on > > > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has > > been > > > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the > > microfiche, > > > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > > > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking > for > > > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > > > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > > > > > Julie Dufault > > > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > > > > > > ______________________________

Hi Could these be yours? I only have the index - so no other information On the index as Abbey parish, district 473, Book 12, Page 8 Archibald aged 28, line 1 Margaret aged 32, line 2 David aged 7, line 3 Alexander aged 6, line 4 Miran aged 5, line 5 Mary aged 3, line 6 John aged 1, line 7 Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Baird" <jbaird@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Hi Julie, > > I've waited a little in the hope that the rush to take up your generous > offer will have died down a bit. > > If you are not already sick of doing lookups, I'd be grateful for any > information you can turn up on the PATON and BARR families in the town of > Johnstone (this is in the parish of Abbey, Paisley) for 1841 and 1851. > > My g.g.grandparents Archibald PATON and Margaret BARR were married at Abbey > (Paisley) in 1841, but I've had some difficulty gleaning any other > information about them. > > I'm hoping you can find them and that any other information you can supply > on PATON and BARR families in the area will help me to tie them in. > > Many thanks in advance, > Jim > in stormy Western Australia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > Chris, > > > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on > > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has > been > > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the > microfiche, > > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for > > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > > > Julie Dufault > > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > >

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Hi Don: I'm just back from a few days away and see your note & offer. I would LOVE if you could check a family for me please - just one! Their last known child was born at Paisley Middle Church in 1838, name of Montgomery Cunningham Richmond. The father is John Richmond and the mother is Ann m/s Ferguson. They would also have several other children in 1841, including an Agnes, Mary and Ann. If you can find them for me in the 1841 "index" I'd be very very pleased. Thank you so much for your offer. Regards, Phyllis in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <DonW16@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:11 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Re: 1841 Census Index > Hello everyone, > > Can I add a small but important correction to Julie's information and > her kind offer regarding the 1841 & 1851 Census Index information > > While there isn't an 1841 Index for Renfrew., there is an Index for the > 1841 census of the Paisley parishes (Abbey Parish is only partly complete). > It is held at the Paisley Local Studies Library. > I don't know if their staff has the time to do look-ups. However, they may > check a family if you phone 0141 889 2360 or E mail the Library at > locstuds.els@renfrewshire.gov.uk. A person may need to phone back at a > particular time to get the results. > > I used the Index last summer, so I know it's there and that it is very > worthwhile. > > I will be in Paisley at the Library for 2-3 days in June and [I hope I > won't regret this ;-) ] would be willing to check a family for listers. > Perhaps one family per person until I see what the response is? And please, > if there is a problem and I'm not able to complete this offer for everyone, > will you be OK with that? Remember the Index is for Paisley only. > > I will do my best, > > Cheers, > > Don Wilson, A.G., Spanish Fork, UT. > (formerly Pt. Sydney & Oakville, Ontario) > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

I have just found a whole set of new relatives in Greenock,Erskine and Kilbarchan.Mainly Farmers,or Butchers,they include:- Peter McAulay/Annie Lochhead m1860 Jane Scott McAuley/John Park m.1883 Allan McKechnie/poss.Jean Rankin m/1845 ch.Joanne Park McKechnie Marion Rankin McKechnie George Alexander McKechnie James Weir McKechnie Jane Hunter McKechnie Jemima Mariane McKechnie if anyone revognises any of these names please contact me as I seem to have hit brick wall egards Merrylee

Hi Julie, I've waited a little in the hope that the rush to take up your generous offer will have died down a bit. If you are not already sick of doing lookups, I'd be grateful for any information you can turn up on the PATON and BARR families in the town of Johnstone (this is in the parish of Abbey, Paisley) for 1841 and 1851. My g.g.grandparents Archibald PATON and Margaret BARR were married at Abbey (Paisley) in 1841, but I've had some difficulty gleaning any other information about them. I'm hoping you can find them and that any other information you can supply on PATON and BARR families in the area will help me to tie them in. Many thanks in advance, Jim in stormy Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Chris, > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has been > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the microfiche, > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > Julie Dufault > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > ______________________________

Hi William Mitchell Young (b.1818 Paisley) Will anyone with access to the 1951 Census, and later, please let me know the residence and occupation of my great grandfather? Thanks. Warmly - Ian

Jim, Two people on my tree were given middle names of Barr and Paton in that order. The Paton is explicable as the birth surname of their father, he was Robert Paton later Robert Paton Kerr as he was brought up by his Kerr grandparents and aunt, in Paisley I have not yet found a Barr connection. I am satisfied it is not in the direct line back from the family, but an important side link. Could it be the one you are researching? Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Baird" <jbaird@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > Hi Julie, > > I've waited a little in the hope that the rush to take up your generous > offer will have died down a bit. > > If you are not already sick of doing lookups, I'd be grateful for any > information you can turn up on the PATON and BARR families in the town of > Johnstone (this is in the parish of Abbey, Paisley) for 1841 and 1851. > > My g.g.grandparents Archibald PATON and Margaret BARR were married at Abbey > (Paisley) in 1841, but I've had some difficulty gleaning any other > information about them. > > I'm hoping you can find them and that any other information you can supply > on PATON and BARR families in the area will help me to tie them in. > > Many thanks in advance, > Jim > in stormy Western Australia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken & Julie Dufault" <kjathome@aspi.net> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841 and 1851 Census > > > > Chris, > > > > The 1841 and 1851 census is not on CD. They can get them in to look at on > > microfilm thru the LDS FHC's. No index for the 1841, but the 1851 has > been > > indexed by the Glasgow and West of Scotland Society. I have the > microfiche, > > which will give you name, age, parish, district, book/ed, page and line > > numbers, save time not having to read the census line by line looking for > > your family. I can check the index for you. Let me know the names and > > approximate ages and I'll see what comes up. > > > > Julie Dufault > > Merrimack, New Hampshire, USA > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > >

Hello, I am not sure if I read the entire thread. I am also not sure if my thinking is correct, but I understand that the IGI was created with submissions by churchmembers and then progressed to extractions which then were added to the index after templework had been done. I now understand that this is not the process and extracted (but unindexed) events are now made available through cds such as the BVRI. It is also my understanding that earlier IGI (such as the fiche pre the days of computer cds) actually contained events that were dropped from the later resource. It is also my understanding that many records were never allowed to be filmed by the Mormon Church. I understand for example that many Suffolk, England bishops would not approve. I wonder about Wales and I am unsure also regarding Scotland. I do know that I fully appreciate every effort by Salt Lake to provide access to the records of the world. What a tremendous undertaking and all their resources are very reasonably priced at a time when countries are now getting into the business of genealogy. As long as we continue to have choices, I will continue seeking and recording my family history. Please advise if my understandings miss the mark of truth. Lois