Thanks for looking Mike. This area of the family is extremely elusive, but I will print off and keep your list, as you say it could be relatives further down the line. George however is Robert's brother, I have had past luck with him. Perhaps Robert & co didn't move from Dunbartonshire to Renfrewshire until after both censuses were taken. Many thanks Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dowding" <m.dowding@virgin.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841/1851 census renfrew McMurrich > Hi > I can't find any Robert of the right age just one who is 9 years old. In > case he is a descendant carrying on the name here is his group > > At Houston & Killellen, District 446/1 Book 11 Page 12 > Line 1, Samuel aged 48 > Line 2, Catherine 38 > Line 3 John 18 > Line 4 Catherine 16 > Line 5 William 12 > Line 6 Robert 9 > Lne 7 Jane 6 > Line 8 Hugh 4 > Line 9 Samuel 1 > > There is however at H & K District 447 Book 5 Page 4 > Line 1 George aged 67 > Line 2 Janet age 57 > Line 3 Marion aged 11 > > Mike > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Hi I can't find any Robert of the right age just one who is 9 years old. In case he is a descendant carrying on the name here is his group At Houston & Killellen, District 446/1 Book 11 Page 12 Line 1, Samuel aged 48 Line 2, Catherine 38 Line 3 John 18 Line 4 Catherine 16 Line 5 William 12 Line 6 Robert 9 Lne 7 Jane 6 Line 8 Hugh 4 Line 9 Samuel 1 There is however at H & K District 447 Book 5 Page 4 Line 1 George aged 67 Line 2 Janet age 57 Line 3 Marion aged 11 Mike

Hi there would some kind person having access to either of the above be able to do a look up for me? It's for Houston & Killellan Robert McMurrich born 1790 West Kilpatrick So I guess in 1841 he would have been aprox 51 & 61 in 1851.(I know he was alive as I found a death for him in 1874, Houston & Killellan) I would really like to know the name of his wife and their children (if there are any still living at home) their names may help me to find out a little more about his father (also Robert) he was born about 1753 -1757, but I don't think they registered it many thanks Lynda

Hello Don. I am most grateful for your detailed reply to my query. This will be very useful information. Thankyou, Jane in Midlothian. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DonW16@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Electoral/Voters Rolls > Regarding a recent query re: Electoral rolls: > > The Local Studies Library in Paisley has Electoral/Voters Rolls for most > elections between 1834 and 1879 in Paisley, some information about householders in > the 4 Wards in Johnstone 1858-1866. Lists of those entitled to vote in > parliamentary and town councils for Renfrew Burgh from 1872-1913. > > The Mitchell Library holds a series of voter’s rolls for Glasgow only, > beginning at 1832 to date, with some gaps. Remember that Glasgow during the > earlier years was smaller than it is now. > > These rolls tend to give name, address and occupation (up to 1914). > > Hope this helpful, > > Don Wilson, (Spanish Fork, Utah) > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Juanita, The IGI has Margaret Carswell Young's parents as Andrew Young & Marion Waterston who married 21 June 1801 Middle Church Paisley. Looking for the Carswell connection, there was a James Young christened 28 Jan 1776 at Oakshaw East Associate Congregation Paisley (below) His parents were James Young & Elizabeth Carswell !. who were married 6 Oct 1751 . (Marriage registered in Neilston Parish, records show that James Young was from the town of Paisley, no information on Elizabeth Carswell). Looking in Neilston Parish Records for tha birth of Eliz Carswell 2 entries were found that may be relevant:- Eiizabeth Carswell born 9 April 1723to Alexander Carswell of Glanderstown. Elizabeth Carswell born 14th Feb 1720 to John Carswell of Dumgrains. The Carswells were tenant farmers in Neilston Parish for centuries. Regards, John Carswell NSW Australia Researching Carswell, Howie, Stevenson, Gemmell , McKay in Neilston Parish Renfrewshire. ANDREW YOUNG Male ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 JAN 1776 Oakshaw East Associate Congregation, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland Death: Burial: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: Father: JAMES YOUNG Family Mother: ELEZABETH CARSWEL ----- Original Message ----- From: <JuanitaPatterson@cs.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Campbell-Carswell Young > I may be on the verge of breaking thru my brick wall of many years. Would > some kind soul have anything in which they could find out more about: > > William Campbell married Margaret Carswell Young 02Aug1840, Abbey (Paisley) > Renfrew Scotland. > > This is all of the info I have but the names fit and I wonder if anyone has > anything which could shed further light. I will be glad to pay a fee for any > time spend on this. I have been researching my Campbell's for years and this is > the closes I have come to a William Campbell marrying a Widow Young. > > Appreciate ANY info or advice. > > Juanita Patterson > Mobile, lAL > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Hi again fellow listers, Tonight I am a happy camper as I finally got on the Stirlingshire mailing list! It only worked when I wrote direct to the list administrator.Thanks to everyone for your help. Kind regards Elizabeth

John, Many thaanks. This doesn't fit w/my Campbell branch. I am looking for a William Campbell who married a widow Young. I surely thought I had something tho. Meanwhile, back to the brick wall! Regards, Juanita

Hello list If anyone has time could they possible look up a John Seath (born 1818) and Marion Taylor Seath (born about 1819) living in Greenock (they might be located in the St Andrews Street area). Any and all help is appreciated. Kindest regards, Jennifer

Regarding a recent query re: Electoral rolls: The Local Studies Library in Paisley has Electoral/Voters Rolls for most elections between 1834 and 1879 in Paisley, some information about householders in the 4 Wards in Johnstone 1858-1866. Lists of those entitled to vote in parliamentary and town councils for Renfrew Burgh from 1872-1913. The Mitchell Library holds a series of voter’s rolls for Glasgow only, beginning at 1832 to date, with some gaps. Remember that Glasgow during the earlier years was smaller than it is now. These rolls tend to give name, address and occupation (up to 1914). Hope this helpful, Don Wilson, (Spanish Fork, Utah)

Hi Debbie, Afraid my research has been confined to William who I eventually traced to Glasgow. The 1841 Census for Coylton will soon be online at Freecens: http://www.speakeasy.org/~jgribble/ayr.html Regards Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: <DAHUNTDIX@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] CALDWELL Census Lookup Please > Does your research of your Caldwell family take you to Ayrshire at all? > My Caldwell family was in New Cumnock for a while before immigrating to > Canada. > > Thank you > Debbie > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ > >

Attention Mike Dowding, Mike, would I be overstepping the mark in asking for an 1851 census lookup for the following CALDWELL family. James b c1800 Janet (nee HUTCHISON) b c1800 they were married in Paisley 27.2.1823 Children who may be living with them, are:- Mary b 8.5.1823 Paisley John b c1829 Paisley John m 21.12.1855 Jean/Jane BROWN & emigrated to Australia in 1862 Fingers crossed!!! With thanks, John Wareham Central Coast NSW in Oz SEARCHING - AYRSHIRE BROWN, CALDWELL, HUTCHISON, MAGGAT

Hi Tom Either hope that someone on the list can do a look up for you in the full transcript OR if you have an LDS near see if you can get the film in. I haven't done that myself so perhaps someone can advise how you get the correct film. Maybe a look on their site www.familysearch.org can give you information Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <TTCarverFL@aol.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: [Renfrew] RE:1851 Census/ Renfrew / Paisley/ Keith/ V03 #139 # 5 > Hi Mike, > > Thank you very much for the Census Index Lookup! > > That was indeed my James Keith family. > > Where do I find the census record that would list their home address and > where the people were born? > > Paisley District 468N Book 1 Page 6. > Thanks again Tom in Florida. > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > >

Hi there, Unless I am much mistaken James Caldwell died before between 1833 & 1838 and Janet Hutchison remarried Robert Malcolm in 1838. In 1841 Census they can be found living in George Street, Paisley (but Janet's name has been altered looks like Mary) also living with them are John Caldwell b Abt 1826, Janet b Abt 1827, James b Abt 1829 & William b abt 1833. They show up again in the 1851 Census although Janet has gone. I have managed to trace William's family forward a bit and I have the details somewhere but to date I have found no trace of John, James or Janet. Regards Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: <jswareham@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: [Renfrew] CALDWELL Census Lookup Please > Attention Mike Dowding, > Mike, would I be overstepping the mark in asking for an 1851 census lookup > for the following CALDWELL family. > > James b c1800 > Janet (nee HUTCHISON) b c1800 > they were married in Paisley 27.2.1823 > Children who may be living with them, are:- > Mary b 8.5.1823 Paisley > John b c1829 Paisley > > John m 21.12.1855 Jean/Jane BROWN & emigrated to Australia in 1862 > > Fingers crossed!!! > With thanks, > John Wareham > Central Coast NSW in Oz > > SEARCHING - AYRSHIRE > BROWN, CALDWELL, HUTCHISON, MAGGAT > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Hi Mike, Thank you very much for the Census Index Lookup! That was indeed my James Keith family. Where do I find the census record that would list their home address and where the people were born? Paisley District 468N Book 1 Page 6. Thanks again Tom in Florida.

William Campbell will be more difficult,you'd be better trying for his death Certificate from1855 on. Scotlands People would be the best way to go. RE -You said ( > . I will be glad to pay a fee for any time spend on this) If the info I've given you works out,you owe me a Guinness !! :-) Frank McGonigal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > William Campbell married Margaret Carswell Young 02Aug1840, Abbey (Paisley) > Renfrew Scotland. > . I will be glad to pay a fee for any time spend on this. I have been researching my Campbell's for years and this is > the closes I have come to a William Campbell marrying a Widow Young. > > Appreciate ANY info or advice. > > Juanita Patterson > Mobile, lAL > >

And these are the rest of the children including Margaret. Frank McGonigal ~~~~~~~~~~ 1. JOHN YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 02 APR 1818 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 2. MORRICE YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 01 DEC 1822 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 3. ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 22 MAR 1802 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 4. WILLIAM YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 07 DEC 1806 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 5. JAMES YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 01 JUN 1804 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 6. GEORGE YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 15 DEC 1811 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 7. MARGARET CARSWELL YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 23 NOV 1814 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland 8. ROBERT YOUNG - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 06 FEB 1809 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <JuanitaPatterson@cs.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Campbell-Carswell Young > I may be on the verge of breaking thru my brick wall of many years. Would > some kind soul have anything in which they could find out more about: > > William Campbell married Margaret Carswell Young 02Aug1840, Abbey (Paisley) > Renfrew Scotland. > > This is all of the info I have but the names fit and I wonder if anyone has > anything which could shed further light. I will be glad to pay a fee for any > time spend on this. I have been researching my Campbell's for years and this is > the closes I have come to a William Campbell marrying a Widow Young. > > Appreciate ANY info or advice. > > Juanita Patterson > Mobile, lAL > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

Dear listers, iam still looking for any info on my grandfathers( jOHN MCDOUGALL Fleming ) brothers and sisters,the night of the census 1881 at 19 Ingleston street Greenock they were. Robert aged 21 isabella aged 19 Alexander aged 14 Elizabeth aged 12 and there was a granddaughter her name was MARIE ANCKIESON aged 1month M any thanks for any help. Your Roberta Fleming robbiefleming63@hotmail.com Image by FlamingText.com _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. Get five times more storage - 10MB in your Hotmail account. Go to http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au

Does your research of your Caldwell family take you to Ayrshire at all? My Caldwell family was in New Cumnock for a while before immigrating to Canada. Thank you Debbie

I may be on the verge of breaking thru my brick wall of many years. Would some kind soul have anything in which they could find out more about: William Campbell married Margaret Carswell Young 02Aug1840, Abbey (Paisley) Renfrew Scotland. This is all of the info I have but the names fit and I wonder if anyone has anything which could shed further light. I will be glad to pay a fee for any time spend on this. I have been researching my Campbell's for years and this is the closes I have come to a William Campbell marrying a Widow Young. Appreciate ANY info or advice. Juanita Patterson Mobile, lAL

Hi Phyllis Sorry about this one, the nearest I can find is as follows At Paisley District 460 Book 6 Page 11 John Richmond aged 63 Line 10 Agnes aged 67 Line 11 John aged 35 line 12 William aged 27 line 13 Hugh aged 25 line 14 There are no Charles or Montgomery's, several Ann, Agnes Mary but without ages I can't help. No occupations are given on the index only the age and where enumerated. So I can't help with the Ferguson query without more info. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Ziajka" <pziajka@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Census Lookup Please > Hello Mike: > I'm wondering if you could ask you to do a lookup on your census index please for any RICHMOND or FERGUSON who was a butcher or flesher, either 1851 or 1841. > > If you have an 1841 census index could you please see if there is a family of John Richmond and his wife Ann, plus several children, including a Charles, Agnes, Ann, Mary, Montgomery and perhaps others. The parents would be about 50 yrs. old. > > Thanks very much for any help you can offer. > Cheers, > Phyllis, in Canada > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ >