Thank you Susanne. Very well put. Marie Spears

As Benjamin Franklin said "Many have quarrelled about religion who have never practised it."

Janelle is way out of line here. For someone who deletes religion items from her list seems to be more bitter than some of the most bitter in the world. It is a shame that manners, and how to treat others were never passed on to you. There is a difference between pride and conceit look it up. Susanne Turcotte Ontario Canada

Janelle, Actually, in reading the very first inquiry for "Cemeteries in Greenock", I found the request to be very open-ended as it was for "all" Greenock Cemeteries and, thus, Maggie's reply fit the request. You signed your email "Be happy." I hope that you can be happy in your life and that you also may choose to do, say and type things that truly encourage happiness in others' lives as well. For, especially if you do not believe in a higher power, the responsibility of easing the cares of life for ourselves and others rests squarely upon the shoulders of each one of us. April Dice -----Original Message----- From: Janelle [mailto:jcmch@cyberone.com.au] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:15 AM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... in 1856 This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all know how males "embellish" their stories. IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you can? I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. Be Happy Janelle Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for one > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > the phone book by that name. > maggie > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > there is a family by the name of mallory > maggie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > Rose > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > was > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost > > the > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > 9,1880 > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > would > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and Virus Protection Service, and is believed to be clean from viruses. 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Hello Mike May I ask you to look for surname GILOGLEY spelling often GILLOGLEY and or sim. Thank you Heather

Thank you Maggie for your reply. However I am looking for information in Scotland. Would once again like to ask if someone knows the address of the Greenock Cemetery in Renfrew Scotland. James Molloy/Malloy died at 5 Smiths Lane in Middle Greenock Jan 9, 1880. Also hoping that someone may be able to check records older than 1880 for a Bernard Molloy married to an Ann Burns Molloy. Thanks Sharon "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and believe in, and it will come naturally." --- David Frost _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Hi Margaret I have the same problem with my common surnames; James MCINTOSH(45) and Christina MUNRO (15 according to 1841 census!)were married in 1840 in Abbey, were in the 1841 census living in Faldside in Renfrew with a Peter McIntosh which may be Jame's father according to his approx age (70), had their daughter Marion the month before they too sailed to New Zealand on the Duchess of Argyle in June 1842. According to the census none were born in Renfrew- so I have also hit the brick wall :o( Donna Aitken Auckland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Given" <margaretg@paradise.net.nz> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 08, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Ancestors > In the 1841 census of Paisley Robert Andrew and wife Mary were living at 90 Cannel St with children James,Robert, Margaret and William. The parents were listed as Irish. They were weavers and had married in 1828 in the Low church. in > Paisley. Would there have been any relatives living near by? > In June 1842 the family sailed in the 'Duchess of Argyle" to Auckland, New Zealand. > I think I have hit the proverbial brick wall! Margaret > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Hi All , I recently transcribed three En Districts for Larkhall in Lanark ( 1891 ) if you would care to go to my home page below and click on the link to the Larkhall transcription ( over 3,000 entries ) you will notice quite a number of families from Renfrew. If anyone finds family I'd love to hear back , I can also link surnames to web sites if anyone finds a relie and wants a link . I kept the index to Surname / Christian Name / Age and Place of Birth . To transcribe the data in it's entirety would have taken a year or more . The Index will be useful as an aid when it comes to ordering the full extract from PRO, Cheers Angela BANKIER FAMILY WEB SITE http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~palmtreeqld The Scottish Gaelic Association of Australia http://www.ozgaelic.org/

Yes Jim, and it's still there. Try a search on one of these sites for modern day places - < http://www.multimap.com/ > < http://www.mapquest.co.uk/ > < http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ < http://mappoint.msn.com/uk/(xyup3imdwlr1zx45novduj55)/home.aspx > or for older maps < http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ > Jack ================== Hello Listers, Can someone tell me if this a valid street in Paisley c.1901........."46 Kilnside Rd". The info was taken from the 1901 Census, I did check maps but was unable to find it. TIA. Jim.

Hi Rose, Greenock Cemetery and Crematorium, 1 South Street, Greenock PH16 8UG Tel; 01475-715658. This is the largest cemetery in Greenock. Kind Regards Jeanette (from sunny Pilochry)

on top of this at least 3 times a day i help people from aust. with their gen. and im from canada maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janelle" <jcmch@cyberone.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? > > I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... in 1856 > > This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! > > I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! > > Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. > > Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all know how males "embellish" their stories. > > IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you can? > > I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. > > Be Happy > > Janelle > > > > > > > > > > Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for > one > > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > > the phone book by that name. > > maggie > > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > > there is a family by the name of mallory > > maggie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > > Rose > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > > was > > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow > lost > > > the > > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. > Records > > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > > 9,1880 > > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > > would > > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and > Virus Protection Service, and is believed to > be clean from viruses. 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I SEE YOU ARE FROM AUSTRALIA, CHARLES MCINTOSH A FAMOUS PILOT MOVED FROM SCOTLAND TO AUSTRALIA. MAGGIE mpeters nee mcintosh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janelle" <jcmch@cyberone.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? > > I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... in 1856 > > This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! > > I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! > > Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. > > Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all know how males "embellish" their stories. > > IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you can? > > I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. > > Be Happy > > Janelle > > > > > > > > > > Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for > one > > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > > the phone book by that name. > > maggie > > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > > there is a family by the name of mallory > > maggie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > > Rose > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > > was > > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow > lost > > > the > > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. > Records > > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > > 9,1880 > > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > > would > > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and > Virus Protection Service, and is believed to > be clean from viruses. 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so janelle, what do you really think????????? Janelle wrote: > Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? > > I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... in 1856 > > This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! > > I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! > > Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. > > Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all know how males "embellish" their stories. > > IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you can? > > I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. > > Be Happy > > Janelle > > Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for > one > > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > > the phone book by that name. > > maggie > > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > > there is a family by the name of mallory > > maggie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > > Rose > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > > was > > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow > lost > > > the > > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. > Records > > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > > 9,1880 > > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > > would > > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and > Virus Protection Service, and is believed to > be clean from viruses. 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greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for one in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in the phone book by that name. maggie Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book mpeters@xcelco.on.ca there is a family by the name of mallory maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > Rose > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I was > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost > the > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > 9,1880 > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > would > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > --- David Frost > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >

PAISLEY SCOTLAND OR ONT. CANADA I HAVE INFORMATION ON ONT. AND SCOTLAND. AND SOME SEARCH TOOLS, I RECEIVED FROM MY GENEALOGIST IN SCOTLAND MAGGIE MCINTOSH'S GENEALOGY BOOK ALL ENTRIES TO CAN & USA 1600-1800"S EVERY NEWBORN BABY SHOULD HAVE ONE BNFT TO A MCINTOSH FAM.VICT. OF CANCER E MAIL mpeters@xcelco.on.ca OR WRITE TO M. PETERS, BOX 335 CORUNNA, ONT. CANADA INCLUDES 1ST LAND CLAIM IN SCOTLAND Add this card to your address book ----- Original Message ----- From: "Win MacKenzie" <mackenzietree@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:07 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1851 census index > Hi Mike, > Thanks for checking on this JAAP family. > I suspect the Robert you found will be connected somehow. I don't know > too much about collateral lines yet - my ancestor was Elizabeth JAAP. > She was the dau of Robert and Honora. Elizabeth JAAP married James SMITH > in 1833 in Paisley. They forgot to record the births of their children. > :-) > If I can reciprocate with British Columbia lookups let me know. > Win MacKenzie > > >Hi Win > >I can't find a Robert or Nora or Honorah on the 1851 of the right age. > >There is a Robert aged 38in Paisley District 463 Book 20 Page 18 Line 11 > >with him are > >George aged 2 line 15 > >Janet aged 1line 16 > >Jean aged 4 line 14 > >Jean aged 38 line 12 > >Matthew aged 9 line 13 > > > >Mike > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the Rootsweb lists go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Hello Listers, Can someone tell me if this a valid street in Paisley c.1901........."46 Kilnside Rd". The info was taken from the 1901 Census, I did check maps but was unable to find it. TIA. Jim.

Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I was fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost the letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan 9,1880 married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I would appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and believe in, and it will come naturally." --- David Frost _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Mike, Thanks for checking on this JAAP family. I suspect the Robert you found will be connected somehow. I don't know too much about collateral lines yet - my ancestor was Elizabeth JAAP. She was the dau of Robert and Honora. Elizabeth JAAP married James SMITH in 1833 in Paisley. They forgot to record the births of their children. :-) If I can reciprocate with British Columbia lookups let me know. Win MacKenzie >Hi Win >I can't find a Robert or Nora or Honorah on the 1851 of the right age. >There is a Robert aged 38in Paisley District 463 Book 20 Page 18 Line 11 >with him are >George aged 2 line 15 >Janet aged 1line 16 >Jean aged 4 line 14 >Jean aged 38 line 12 >Matthew aged 9 line 13 > >Mike >

In the 1841 census of Paisley Robert Andrew and wife Mary were living at 90 Cannel St with children James,Robert, Margaret and William. The parents were listed as Irish. They were weavers and had married in 1828 in the Low church. in Paisley. Would there have been any relatives living near by? In June 1842 the family sailed in the 'Duchess of Argyle" to Auckland, New Zealand. I think I have hit the proverbial brick wall! Margaret

Hi Mike Thanks again for looking, sorry to lead you a dance. I do recognise some of the McMurrichs one is Robert's brother and some his nieces and nephews. Yes, you are obviously right, they probably moved away from Houston after the last child was born in 1842, and he returned after the census and died there. I don't have his birth certificate, I looked his death up on the Government site and saw the record in the Stat Register. Thanks anyway Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Dowding" <m.dowding@virgin.net> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] 1841/1851 census renfrew McMurrich > Hi Lynda > Since ther are only a samll number of McMurrich on the index for both East > and West Renfrew I thought I might as well send the lot > The order of things is. Name; age; Parish; District; Book; Page; Line > in East Renfrew > Agnes; 5; Abbey; 470; 1; 9; 3 > Alexander; 14; Paisley; 466; 1; 17; 14 > Catherine; 30; Abbey; 470; 1; 9; 2 > George; 26; Abbey; 470; 1; 9; 1 > Janet; 20; Abbey; 470; 7; 16; 9 > Janet W; 1; Abbey; 470; 1; 9; 5 > Jean; 3; Abbey; 470; 1; 9; 4 > > In West Renfrew > Ann; 21; Greenock; 440; 83; 8; 15 > Catherine; 38; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; 12; 2 > Catherin; 16l; Port Glasgow; 16; 446/1; 11; 12; 4 > George; 67; Houston & Killellen; 447; 5; 4; 1 > Hugh; 4; Port Glasgow; 446/1' 11; 12; 8 > Jane; 6; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; 12; 7 > Janet; 57; Houston & Killellen; 447; 5; 4; 2 > Jessie; 30; Greenock; 433; 5; 12; 7 > John; 18; Houston Killellen; 447; 1; 3; 5 > John; 18; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; 12; 3 > Marion; 11; Houston & Killellen; 447; 5; 4; 3 > Mathew; 30; Greenock; 433; 5; 12; 6 > Robert; 9; Port Glasgow; 446/1; ; 6 > Samuel; 48; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; 12; 1 > Samuel; 1; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; ; 9 > Thomas D; 2; Greenock; 433; 5; 12; 8 > William; 12; Port Glasgow; 446/1; 11; 12; 5 > > As you will see your couple do not appear to be there although if you have > the DoB of the children you may be able to work out if any of these others > are related. The fact that they married in H & K and Robert died there may > only mean that he returned home for his death. Have you got the death > certifictate? > I can't, of course vouch for the accuracy of the index. However, I did get > this from the Glasgow & West of Scotland FHS, so I should think it would be > OK. I have also the 1861 for East Ayshire but there are no McMurrich's at > all. It might be worth trying Lanarkshire, particularly Glasgow, as it is > not that far away for work. > > Kind regards > Mike > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GENUKI page is at > http://www.skylinc.net/~lasmith/genuki/RFW/ >