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    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery Comment
    2. Maggie Peters
    3. and everybody forgot about the apple okay lets get back to genealogy my gr. gr. grandfather came from alvie, scotland charles mcintosh was his name and married to marjory forbes my gr grand fathers name was charles mcintoshborn aug 2, 1833 married janet mcpherson my grandfather was charles mcintosh married to ida belle corrigan if anyone from alvie, scotland is out there, please drop me a line. i was the first girl in 71 years. maggie mpeters@xcelco.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Falink" <jfalink@rconnect.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:22 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery Comment > > I have been a member of this list for some time and have always found > everyone to have the same goal which is to seek Scottish ancestors in a > professional, courteous way. > > It has been pointed out that many locations share dual identies. For > example, individuals from Ulm, Germany who emigrated to the U.S. called > their settlement in Minnesota, New Ulm, and even today, old German > traditions still exist. An example of Scottish identity is Macalester > College in St. Paul, Minnesota, which holds an annual Scottish Fest and > includes a bag pipe competition. It is well-attended, as are Scottish > fests all across the U.S. and Canada, since North Americans are also > very proud of their Scottish heritage. > > Sociology teaches us not to stereotype. For example, if one says they > don't know a great deal about Scots who emigrated to North America yet > stereotypes them as being after "easy money," upon what is this > hypothesis based? In actuality, in the 1700's and 1800's, great numbers > of brave, adventurous, pioneer Scots risked their lives at sea by > emigrating not only to the New World, but to the West Indies as well. > Greenock also has an interesting interlocking history to the Caribbean, > and my ancestors who were born in Greenock owned property in Jamaica. > > At one time or another, large numbers of Scots were transported to the > islands as political or captured war prisoners. Additionally, the > fateful Darien expedition also brought Scots in a round-about way to the > New World. Scots who remained loyal to the Crown in the Revolutionary > War found property and possessions confiscated. Labeled "Loyalists," > they also became residents of the Caribbean Islands as one of the places > of refuge offered to them. Many went to Canada. > > An enlightening book, "Sojourners in the Sun" by Alan L. Karras, relates > to Scottish migration to Jamaica, the other Caribbean islands, and to > the New World from 1740-1800. Karras tells of tobacco connections > whereby Scots grew crops in the Carolinas and Virginia which they > shipped to dealers in Glasgow, Leith, and Edinburgh. Scots, along with > their English counterparts, also grew sugarcane and various spices in > the islands for shipment to Scotland along with puncheons of rum. > Additionally, the Shetlander economy was enhanced at the time by their > shipping of dried saltfish to countrymen in the islands. > > In addition to economic reasons, many young Scots left home because of > the rule where family estates and monies were left to firstborn sons, > and younger brothers were forced to seek their fortune elsewhere. > Therefore, life was only easy for the firstborn son. > > Another great source of information regarding Scottish migration are > the books of David Dobson, a Scot, who has a web site at which > the titles of his books are listed. Dobson has spent a great deal of > time compiling lists of Scots who went abroad from old newspapers, > books, and other sources in Scotland. Two of his books are entitled, > "The Original Scots Colonists of Early America, Caribbean Supplement > 1611-1707" and "Scots in the West Indies 1707-1857." Dobson > also has written a book about Scottish migration to Australia along with > lists of people who emigrated. Many people do not realize when they > reach a brick wall there are other avenues to pursue, for example, the > islands as mentioned above. > > I hope this helps Janelle understand that Americans don't really have > closed minds. If we did, we certainly wouldn't want to expand our > knowledge by learning more about our elusive ancestors. > > Joyce Falink > Cannon Falls, Minnesota > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

    06/09/2003 06:36:09
    1. [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery Comment
    2. Joyce Falink
    3. I have been a member of this list for some time and have always found everyone to have the same goal which is to seek Scottish ancestors in a professional, courteous way. It has been pointed out that many locations share dual identies. For example, individuals from Ulm, Germany who emigrated to the U.S. called their settlement in Minnesota, New Ulm, and even today, old German traditions still exist. An example of Scottish identity is Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota, which holds an annual Scottish Fest and includes a bag pipe competition. It is well-attended, as are Scottish fests all across the U.S. and Canada, since North Americans are also very proud of their Scottish heritage. Sociology teaches us not to stereotype. For example, if one says they don't know a great deal about Scots who emigrated to North America yet stereotypes them as being after "easy money," upon what is this hypothesis based? In actuality, in the 1700's and 1800's, great numbers of brave, adventurous, pioneer Scots risked their lives at sea by emigrating not only to the New World, but to the West Indies as well. Greenock also has an interesting interlocking history to the Caribbean, and my ancestors who were born in Greenock owned property in Jamaica. At one time or another, large numbers of Scots were transported to the islands as political or captured war prisoners. Additionally, the fateful Darien expedition also brought Scots in a round-about way to the New World. Scots who remained loyal to the Crown in the Revolutionary War found property and possessions confiscated. Labeled "Loyalists," they also became residents of the Caribbean Islands as one of the places of refuge offered to them. Many went to Canada. An enlightening book, "Sojourners in the Sun" by Alan L. Karras, relates to Scottish migration to Jamaica, the other Caribbean islands, and to the New World from 1740-1800. Karras tells of tobacco connections whereby Scots grew crops in the Carolinas and Virginia which they shipped to dealers in Glasgow, Leith, and Edinburgh. Scots, along with their English counterparts, also grew sugarcane and various spices in the islands for shipment to Scotland along with puncheons of rum. Additionally, the Shetlander economy was enhanced at the time by their shipping of dried saltfish to countrymen in the islands. In addition to economic reasons, many young Scots left home because of the rule where family estates and monies were left to firstborn sons, and younger brothers were forced to seek their fortune elsewhere. Therefore, life was only easy for the firstborn son. Another great source of information regarding Scottish migration are the books of David Dobson, a Scot, who has a web site at which the titles of his books are listed. Dobson has spent a great deal of time compiling lists of Scots who went abroad from old newspapers, books, and other sources in Scotland. Two of his books are entitled, "The Original Scots Colonists of Early America, Caribbean Supplement 1611-1707" and "Scots in the West Indies 1707-1857." Dobson also has written a book about Scottish migration to Australia along with lists of people who emigrated. Many people do not realize when they reach a brick wall there are other avenues to pursue, for example, the islands as mentioned above. I hope this helps Janelle understand that Americans don't really have closed minds. If we did, we certainly wouldn't want to expand our knowledge by learning more about our elusive ancestors. Joyce Falink Cannon Falls, Minnesota

    06/09/2003 05:22:57
    1. Re: [Renfrew] RE: Janelle's Greenock Cemetery
    2. Brian Cave
    3. Hasn't this 'flaming' theme gone on long enough? - It's not advancing anybody's knowledge of Renfrew genealogy. It wouldn't be so bad if people snipped messages - instead of repeating yards and yards of them in every reply. Brian

    06/09/2003 04:23:39
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery,Scotland
    2. Bill Brown
    3. Sharon The Monumental Inscriptions for Greenock Cemetery & West Greenock Cemetery have been transcribed for the period up to 1855, which does not help with your first query. There is no record of a Molloy in the pre- 1855 transcripts. Bill Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery,Scotland > Thank you Maggie for your reply. However I am looking for information in > Scotland. > Would once again like to ask if someone knows the address of the Greenock > Cemetery in Renfrew Scotland. James Molloy/Malloy died at 5 Smiths Lane in > Middle Greenock Jan 9, 1880. > Also hoping that someone may be able to check records older than 1880 for > a Bernard Molloy married to an Ann Burns Molloy. > Thanks Sharon > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > believe in, and it will come naturally." > --- David Frost > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

    06/09/2003 03:27:40
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. Bill Brown
    3. Maggie Nicely and quietly said Maggie. Well done and thanks. We all have them. Bill Brown Sydney Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > on top of this at least 3 times a day i help people from aust. with their > gen. and im from canada > maggie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janelle" <jcmch@cyberone.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously > CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think > ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies > heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be > hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were > ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where > near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in > the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? > > > > I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... > in 1856 > > > > This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old > you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are > for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! > > > > I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus > Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 > has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 > or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions > ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, > which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no > "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... > haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! > > > > Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead > ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that > "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will > be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God > who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a > book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you > believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY > Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. > > > > Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more > than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all > know how males "embellish" their stories. > > > > IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They > left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold > Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and > THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today > ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... > the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish > connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd > Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had > an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. > Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you > can? > > > > I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America > ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the > PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. > > > > Be Happy > > > > Janelle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland > > Rose > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for > > one > > > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed > in > > > the phone book by that name. > > > maggie > > > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > > > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > > > there is a family by the name of mallory > > > maggie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > > > Rose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? > I > > > was > > > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow > > lost > > > > the > > > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. > > Records > > > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on > Jan > > > > 9,1880 > > > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census > I > > > > would > > > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and > > Virus Protection Service, and is believed to > > be clean from viruses. 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    06/09/2003 03:02:12
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. You sound very bitter about a lot of things. Is this forum the place for all that tripe?l Juanita Patterson - USof A!

    06/09/2003 01:09:03
    1. [Renfrew] Re: Cusen Home
    2. Theresa Forsyth
    3. Hi There is a Coustonholme Road in Polokshaws and has been since the time of your ancestors. It is possible a farm was situated there in 19 century. Theresa _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

    06/09/2003 12:27:39
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. Janelle
    3. Northern Americans,and I thought it was only USAmericans, but obviously CANADIANS have no idea either WHERE SCOTLAND IS!!! ........ they think ONLY of their region .....closed minds ...... what IF every time we Aussies heard "New England" we thought of England, or ... hell, there must be hundreds of towns named after our ancestors townships. As IF you were ponderring where your ancestors were buried ...... SCOTLAND is NOT any where near Canada or the bloody US of A. Greenock in CANADA? Hey this was in the Renfrew (Scottish) List ..... are some people that STUPID? I am SO GLAD that my Scottish ancestors decided to come to Australia ..... in 1856 This stupidity with SOME listers is unforgivable. Regardless of how old you are........ USA is NOT the centre of the Earth ..... these Lists are for people researching their SCOTTISH heritage!!!!! I have been deleting lots of emails about RELIGION ....... USA versus Scotland and all that stuff ...... what is "normal" in the US of A in 2003 has NOTHING to do with what was the normal, average, religion in, say 1800 or before that in Scotland....... the USA has so many "made up" religions ..... buy which ever you want LOL Supermarket religion LOL Presbyterian, which I relate to better than anything else is SCOTTISH ...no kneeling, no "catholic" (or if you wish anglican) waving of things or Priests, etc) .... haven't had the monthly Communion in maybe 30 years! Who cares, anyway? I'm an ATHIEST and proud of it ........ Dead is Dead ..... IF Heaven is so DIVIDED who wants to go there? Remember that "heaven" is not just a christian thing .... those muslims, and others, will be up there with YOU ..... they believe in the SAME heaven and the SAME God who created The World .... they just have a different way of teaching and a book (bible) of the scriptures that is in Arabic or Itlalian!. IF you believe that GOD who supposedly "created the world in 7 days" was ONLY Christian ..... you are kidding yourselves. Jesus was a JEW, remember? I don't believe the "New Testament" any more than I would the "Old Testament" .... Old Men's Tales .......and you all know how males "embellish" their stories. IF you have SCOTTISH connections, BE very GRATEFUL that you do. They left their homeland, some as sailors to seek their fortune in the Gold Fields,. which most didn't .... they brought out their wives or lovers and THEY were the the people who made countries like AUSTRALIA what it is today ...... those women who followed their Scottish men, Scottish PRIDE ..... the "faith" never came down to me ......but the proudness did. My Scottish connections migrated here to Australia in the 1850's ..... so I am a 3rd Generation Aussie ...... religion had no say in anything ..... but PRIDE had an awful lot to do with my upbringing and how I raised my own child. Presbyterian "rules" ..... ?? Do unto others ....... ? NOT get what you can? I don't know a great deal about the Scottish who went to NORTH America ....... maybe they just were after EASY MONEY? They certainly weren't the PIONEERS who migrated to Australia ........ a totally different attitutude. Be Happy Janelle Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for one > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > the phone book by that name. > maggie > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > there is a family by the name of mallory > maggie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > Rose > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > was > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost > > the > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > 9,1880 > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > would > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and Virus Protection Service, and is believed to be clean from viruses. 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    06/09/2003 12:15:05
    1. Re: [Renfrew] 1851 census
    2. Mike Dowding
    3. Hi Heather (and any other requests) I have a problem in that the bulb on my fiche reader has gone and nochance to get one before the weekend. Please forgive any delay in replies, I will get to them as soon as I can find a supplier in my area. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Fromme" <fromme@marshlake.polarcom.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1851 census > Hello Mike > May I ask you to look for surname GILOGLEY spelling often GILLOGLEY and or sim. > Thank you > Heather > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > >

    06/09/2003 12:11:17
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery,Scotland
    2. Chris Bradshaw
    3. Hi Bill... Are there any BRADSHAW listings?? Chris Bradshaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Brown" <bbrown@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery,Scotland > Sharon > The Monumental Inscriptions for Greenock Cemetery & West Greenock Cemetery > have been transcribed for the period up to 1855, which does not help with > your first query. > There is no record of a Molloy in the pre- 1855 transcripts. > Bill Brown > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:41 PM > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery,Scotland > > > > Thank you Maggie for your reply. However I am looking for information in > > Scotland. > > Would once again like to ask if someone knows the address of the Greenock > > Cemetery in Renfrew Scotland. James Molloy/Malloy died at 5 Smiths Lane in > > Middle Greenock Jan 9, 1880. > > Also hoping that someone may be able to check records older than 1880 > for > > a Bernard Molloy married to an Ann Burns Molloy. > > Thanks Sharon > > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > --- David Frost > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > Need an LDS film number to order a film at your local LDS library? Try > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/1311/13300-scottishreference.htm >

    06/09/2003 12:10:35
    1. Re: [Renfrew] RE: Snipping Messages
    2. Jean Brocklebank
    3. > From: "Brian Cave" <Beejaycave@btinternet.com> > Samantha asked, "How do you snip messages? Sounds like a good idea." > Like I've done here - Perhaps these might help Samantha: > https://www.ku.edu/acs/docs/listproc/netiquette.shtml, > http://psego.tripod.com/email_and_listserv_mailing_list.htm, > http://www.dm.net/handbook/netiquette.html. _______________ Brian! Thank you so much for sharing your websites. These are great suggestions for any list. I like to think of them as part of my Scottish (read "thrifty") heritage. Jean Brocklebank McGowan, McAulay, McLachlan

    06/09/2003 10:51:38
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. Rose
    3. Whoops I'm after the Greennock cemetries in Scotland Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > greenoch cemetery is near clifford, ont. canada, if you are looking for one > in canada. and i looked in the phone book for you and no one is listed in > the phone book by that name. > maggie > Author of Mcintosh's Genealogy of Canada book > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > there is a family by the name of mallory > maggie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rose" <Rosemari@bigpond.com.au> > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and > > addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries > > Rose > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> > > To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM > > Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I > was > > > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost > > the > > > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records > > > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan > > 9,1880 > > > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > > > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I > > would > > > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > > > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > > > believe in, and it will come naturally." > > > --- David Frost > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > > ********************************************************************** > > > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > > ********************************************************************** > > To search the archived lists, including this list go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >

    06/09/2003 10:32:44
    1. [Renfrew] RE: April's Greenock Cemetery
    2. Jackie Thorpe
    3. Hi April, Nice words to live by. Jackie Scottsdale, Arizona USA ___________ April Dice said: "For, especially if you do not believe in a higher power, the responsibility of easing the cares of life for ourselves and others rests squarely upon the shoulders of each one of us."

    06/09/2003 10:10:12
    1. Re: [Renfrew] RE: Janelle's Greenock Cemetery
    2. Samantha Parnell
    3. Brian... I'm a techno-dummy. How do you snip messages? Sounds like a good idea. Silver ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Cave Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:28 PM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Renfrew] RE: Janelle's Greenock Cemetery Hasn't this 'flaming' theme gone on long enough? - It's not advancing anybody's knowledge of Renfrew genealogy. It wouldn't be so bad if people snipped messages - instead of repeating yards and yards of them in every reply. Brian ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.htmlGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    06/09/2003 09:49:48
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. Hello Janelle I for one want to thank you for your email. Up until now I didn't realize I was an ignorant, close minded, uneducated Yank. I'll try to be more like you and hate everyone but I don't think I'll have much success. For some strange reason my family does know where Scotland is located. God Bless Gene

    06/09/2003 09:11:00
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Peace in our list!
    2. Samantha Parnell
    3. I agree. I VERY MUCH appreciate this list and the kind people who have helped me. it isn't necessary to point out errors, etc. We're all human, after all. Peace to all! let's all kiss and make up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Aitken Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:03 PM To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Renfrew] Peace in our list! Well said Jane I am sitting here feeling slightly embarressed for living down here in the Southern hemisphere :o) We all have the same goal- no matter where we are in the world- to find out stories and links to our ancestors- religion is very much part of that story especially as the Presbyterian Church sponsored many of Glasgow's poor to New Zealand in the 1840's. Please lets not fight and enjoy sharing our knowledge with each other. Donna Auckland New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <jbright5190@rogers.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 10, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Not impressed > Hi > > I thought that this list was for looking up my ancestors, not for putting down someone just because there may be duplicate names of people and places floating around the world. There are many Scots in Canada as well a duplicated scottish names and places, does anyone recognize Nova Scotia(New Scotland). I myself have scottish blood as well as Native Canadian Indian and I am proud of my heritage. > > My point is that to err is human, and to try to share what knowledge you have is what I thought this list was for. > > A brick wall may never be broken down if we turn off even one person who may have a link. > > Jane > > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    06/09/2003 09:07:39
    1. [Renfrew] Not impressed
    2. Hi I thought that this list was for looking up my ancestors, not for putting down someone just because there may be duplicate names of people and places floating around the world. There are many Scots in Canada as well a duplicated scottish names and places, does anyone recognize Nova Scotia(New Scotland). I myself have scottish blood as well as Native Canadian Indian and I am proud of my heritage. My point is that to err is human, and to try to share what knowledge you have is what I thought this list was for. A brick wall may never be broken down if we turn off even one person who may have a link. Jane

    06/09/2003 08:44:08
    1. RE: [Renfrew] RE: Janelle's Greenock Cemetery
    2. April Dice
    3. Now, now, Brian, everyone is entitled to express their thoughts. I think that support for the one flamed is in order -- imagine that feeling. Also, setting a tone and guidelines for the list is important. Thus, such a situation really should not be ignored. I have been pleased and enlightened by the responses, yours as well. . . And the guidance about editing replies. Thank you. April : )

    06/09/2003 08:34:22
    1. [Renfrew] Look Up Please!
    2. Ruth
    3. Looking for information on Mary Millar, born, 11 April 1847 Greenock, would like a look up from one of the censuses she is apparently living with someone else as her parents were both deceased before 1855, we would like to know who she is living with and their ages, and the rest of the data. Ruth

    06/09/2003 08:20:47
    1. Re: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery
    2. Rose
    3. Could you Please reply to the list as I am also looking the names and addresses of all the Greenock Cemetries Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Stamis" <queenbee_44@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:24 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Greenock Cemetery > > Could someone please help me with the address to Greenock Cemetery? I was > fortunate enough to have a gentleman send it to me but have somehow lost the > letter. Looking to see if a James Malloy/Molloy is buried there. Records > show that he died at age 44 in Middle Greenock, County Renfrew on Jan 9,1880 > married to Margaret Gillespie Malloy. > Also if anyone can help me with a look up of his parents in a census I would > appreciate it. Bernard Molloy and Ann Burns. > "Don't aim for success if you want it; just do what you love and > believe in, and it will come naturally." > --- David Frost > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ >

    06/09/2003 07:44:45