Aw, c'mon David, pull yer head in a bit, mate! I agree with your stand on unsnipped messages, but I think your method of delivery is O.T.T. (over the top) We've all been guilty at some stage, but to attack someone for a signature line that isn't his is a bit feral, don't you think? If you read the message, it's signed Mark but the signature line belongs to John M Sutherland-Fisher. Certainly it sounds a bit pompous in the context of a Genie List, but Mark was probably using someone else's business PC. So what about a little give and take, eh? All the best Jim in sunny, but chilly, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Joy Lyle" <d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Congratulations > Well Mark, > I hate myself when I resort to this but I believe congratulations are in > order for you. Your three line message in SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #164 > ................................. ______________________________

I answer between 25-30 each day but i write to their home address as i have rheumatoid arthritus and dont like to change from small to caps. my main people i have helped are from Australia, nz, Canada and usa. maggie mpeters@xcelco.on.ca let me know what you are seeking and i shall try to find. mpetersnee mcintosh canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Joy Lyle" <d.jlyle@net1.nw.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Apologies > I must apologise for my remarks recently. I meant no offence to anybody. > These message boards are here for others to help each other find their > ancestors. I am afraid my blood boiled a little when someone, in my > opinion, was advertising for business on this message board and not > offering any free advise to those who may have been interested. > > In the past five years I have freely given of my time and effort to assist > others build up some extensive family trees and I take offence when some on > these boards want payment. If that is an offence then so be it. To the > person concerned I also apologise but again this, and other boards, are > here for others to "freely" help each other and not openly drum up business. > > David Lyle (no Joy involved) > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

I have a Margaret Reid (parents Robert Reid & Christina Cunningham0 married to James McGechan and theirseventh child is Elizabeth Thoms McGechan - just wondering if there is any tie up with the THOMS name from your list Shirley ----- Original Message ----- [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > > > > Have (from Society Library) Renfrewshire MIs pre-1855. Have it borrowed > > until June 19. Would be happy to provide specifics. > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > To search the archived lists, including this list go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/search.html >

with regards to my mail about the pictures it should have read maggie nee mcintosh/Canada please write if you would like to have some photos of Scotland or McIntosh pictures back into 1700's mpeters@xcelco.on.ca

Regret I don't know of any link between my THOM family and McGECHAN. William THOM m. Mary SINCLAIR, 1838, Orkney or Greenock (Mary came from the Orkneys). Had 3 children: - Margaret THOM, chr. 11 Nov 1839, Greenock. - Mary Dunlop THOM, chr. 22 Aug 1841, Greenock, m. James MOWAT (from Glasgow), 4 Jan 1866 in Dunoon, had 8 children (first one and last two born in Dunoon, others born in Glasgow) - William, Eric Sinclair, Mary Sinclair, Jane Fraser, Elizabeth Agnes, James R, Walter S and Cecilia. - Elizabeth THOM, chr. 4 Feb 1844, Greenock, m. Alexander PATERSON, 18 Oct 1866 in Dunoon, had 5 children (all born in Glasgow) - Mary Sinclair, Alexander, Jessie Shaw, Margaret Thom and Agnes J. Currently I have no further information about any members of this family. Regards, Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "james albert bailey" <jbperc@senet.com.au> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Lookup request - Renfrewshire MIs pre 1855 - Margaret THOM, 1839- > I have a Margaret Reid (parents Robert Reid & Christina Cunningham0 married > to James McGechan and theirseventh child is Elizabeth Thoms McGechan - just > wondering if there is any tie up with the THOMS name from your list > Shirley

Well Mark, I hate myself when I resort to this but I believe congratulations are in order for you. Your three line message in SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #164 would have taken two A4 pages to print out if I had been silly enough to do so. The first page gave me the impression of how good and clever you were with all the positions that you had, or had held, the second page an unedited message from someone else. For such an "educated " person did no one teach you the ethics of editing to save wasted paper and stop wasting space and people's time downloading repeatedly unnecessary stuff. Spare a thought for those who have slow modems and are on pay as you go connection. If you have something to say be precise and cut out all the bull at the bottom. If you have something to offer, offer it. There is nothing worse than someone waving their greatness up my nose. I would hate to see what I got from you if you had done some research for me and I had to pay for it, especially if this is an example. Should those details have not applied to you I apologise. At 05:02 AM 2003-06-17 -0600, you wrote: >From: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk> >To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [Renfrew] Macintosh >Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #164 >I know its nothing to do with Renfrewshire but Moy Hall, 6 miles south of >Inverness is the family seat of the Mackintosh of Mackintosh, Chief of the >Clan Mackintosh (the correct spelling of the surname.) >Regards, >Mark Regards David B. Lyle

Hi Sharon If you have any time to spare before having to hand this book back to the library :-) could you have a look to see if there is any mention of a Margaret THOM, chr. 11 Nov 1839 in Greenock, parents William THOM and Mary SINCLAIR. Her father, William THOM, died in Greenock in 1845, and I assume is buried in Greenock cemetery. I have been unable to find any information about Margaret THOM after her birth, so currently assume that she died in childhood. If she did, again I would assume she would be buried in Greenock. Her mother re-married, to Robert Leslie SMITH in Dunoon (my g-g-grandfather), and moved there with the other two daughters of her first marriage, who subsequently both married in Dunoon, but of Margaret, her first child, no trace beyond the record of her christening. Keeping my fingers crossed that you might find something. Many thanks, Donna PS. If you don't have time, no problem. I know I'm late with this request, and others faster off the mark are further up the queue than me! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Exham" <sharon_exham@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > Have (from Society Library) Renfrewshire MIs pre-1855. Have it borrowed > until June 19. Would be happy to provide specifics.

Info gratefully received on: George Drinnan b. 1879 (perhaps adopted) son of George Drinnan and Margaret Rewcastle m. Helen Robertson in Glasgow in 1903 George Drinnan snr b.Tarbolton, Ayrshire 1845, d Greenock 1879 aged 34 Margaret Rewcastle b. Dalrymple, Ayrshire 1851, re-married Thomas Brewster of Kilmacolm, Renfrewshire in 1884 and d. in 1889 aged 38 Thomas Brewster re.married Janet Taylor and George appears living with them in the 1901 census Thank you Jean

To memover: Good riddance. We don't need you. Juanita Patterson

Hello Sharon Do you have any information on the names of ORR or KENNEDY from Kilbarchan Renfrew Scotland? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Bob ORR New Brunswick Canada > > From: "Sharon Exham" <sharon_exham@hotmail.com> > Date: 2003/06/15 Sun PM 05:43:24 GMT > To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > > Have (from Society Library) Renfrewshire MIs pre-1855. Have it borrowed > until June 19. Would be happy to provide specifics. > > > > > From: SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > To: SCT-RENFREW-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:00:43 -0600 > > << message2.txt >> > << message4.txt >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew > >

Hi Sharon I wonder if you would be kind enough to look up an Emelia (Emley) McMurrich mn Cameron Poss died Houston & Killellan, any info would be most welcome. Thank you Lynda

----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Peters" <mpeters@xcelco.on.ca> To: <SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: Fw: [SCT-INV]Mc/Mac/Mackintosh info > DOES ANYONE HAVE INFORMATION TO EXPAND ON MY INFORMATION IN ORDER TO EXPAND > AND INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THESE DESCENDANTS OTHER FAMILIES > AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CAPS AS MY RHEUMATOID ARTHRITUS IS BAD AND I AM > UNABLE TO SHIFT FROM SMALL TO CAPS. > maggie nee mcintosh/canada > mpeters@xcelco.on.ca > > > 1.SHAW MCDUFF > 1137-1179 > 2.SHAW MCINTOSH > 1179-1210 > 3.WILLIAM MCINTOSH > 4. SHAW MCINTOSH > 1210-1265 > 5. FARQUHARD MCINTOSH > 1265-1274 > DAUGHTER OF ANGUS MOR OF ISLA > 6. ANGUS MCINTOSH > 1274-1345 > WIFE EVA DALL, DTR OF DOUGAL DALL, CHIEF CLAN CHATTAN MARR 1291 > 7. WILLIAM MCINTOSH > DIED 1368 > MARRIED MARGARET MCLEOD > 8. MALCOLM MCINTOSH > DIED 1464 > MARRIED MORA MACDONALD OF MOYDART > 9. LACHLAN MCINTOSH BAEENOCH > MARRIED CATHERINE GRANT OF FREUCHIE > 10. LACHLAN 'BEG' MCINTOSH > DIED 1524 > MARR JEAN GORDON, DTR OF SIR ALEXANDER GORDON OF LOCHINVAR AND JANE KENNEDY, > MISTRESS OF JAMES IV > 11. WILLIAM MCINTOSH > 1522-1550 > MARRIED MARGARET OGILVIE OF DESKFORD AND FINDLATER > 12. LACHLAN MOR MCINTOSH > 1543-1606 > MARRIED AGNES MCKENZIE OF KINTAIL > 13. WILLIAM 2ND SON BORLUM BRANCH & FAMILY OF RAIGMORE MARR ELIZABETH INNES, > DTR OF ROBERT INNES OF INNERMARKLE IN 1594 > 14. LACHLAN MCINTOSH 2ND PROP OF BORLUM MARR HELEN GORDON OF GORDONSTONE IN > 1636 > 15. WILLIAM MCINTOSH 3RD PROP OF BORLUM MARRIED MARY BAILLIE, DTR OF WILLIAM > BAILLIE AND ISOBEL FORBES, DTR OF DUNCAN FORBES IN 1656 > 16. BRIG WILLIAM MCINTOSH > 1658-1743 > MARR MARY READE > 17. BENJAMIN MCINTOSH > 1686-1740 > MARRIED CATHERINE MCINTOSH DTR OF ANGUS > 18. JOHN MCINTOSH > 1715-1787 > MARRIED MARGARET MCGILLIVRAY > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Sharon, Could you please keep a look out for the surname MCCORKELL. I am looking for both David and Janet (nee Rodgers). Thanks for your generous offer. Paula

--=======51CD591D======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-623F5467; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, Just wanted to let everyone know what a wonderful list we have. A bit ago I was hunting for some relations who had died in Paisley and were buried at Hawkhead Cemetery, well to cut a long story short Jack Mills (of this list) said he would find the grave and photograph it for me , well today I recieved some wonderful photo's of this grave. Thank you Jack. Trevor Kersley Easingwold,North Yorks. Web Page http://www.Dortmund.co.uk --=======51CD591D======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-623F5467 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 --=======51CD591D=======--

Sharon, do you have any HALDANEs please? Thankyou for your time Julia T nee Haldane -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Exham [mailto:sharon_exham@hotmail.com] Sent: 15 June 2003 18:43 To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 Have (from Society Library) Renfrewshire MIs pre-1855. Have it borrowed until June 19. Would be happy to provide specifics. From: SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com To: SCT-RENFREW-D@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:00:43 -0600 << message2.txt >> << message4.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************** The Renfrewshire Query board is at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew

Yes David, it was in Eastwood Parish - 562 (457) En Dist. 7. Jack - Paisley =========================== First, can someone tell me whether this was in Eastwood Parish? Or was the White Cart Water the county boundary to Lanarkshire and Govan parish at this point. An 1868 gazetteer says the White Cart River goes through the parish of Eastwood, but there seems to be a boundary on the old OS map. Second, can someone tell me the reference for the 1851 census enumeration book for this area? Or even better, also tell me whether William CAMPBELL and wife Mirren (or Marion) were living at Coustonholm. It is described by the descendants in New Zealand as being a farm with an apple orchard, which looks possible from the old OS map. regards, David Hawgood London, England.

Dear Moira, i had a read of the letter you sent about Paton and Kerr, well if the info i have is the right thing, i have David Kerr who married Mary Wood Paton Mary Wood Paton born 4th may 1873 High Church,Glasgow, Larnark father John Paton and mother Janet Mcdougall And so the story goes they are great grand parents of mine yours Roberta Fleming(robbie) robbiefleming63@hotmail .com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

Hello Robbie, I cannot link this family into my tree (yet!). I dont know if we are suffering from common names or whether there is a kinship yet to be discovered. I am sorry I cannot snip, but when I reply the snip facilies goes dead and I am not technical enough to find out why it does! Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "robbie fleming" <robbiefleming63@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > Dear Moira, > i had a read of the letter you sent about Paton and Kerr, well if the info i > have is the right thing, i have David Kerr who married Mary Wood Paton > Mary Wood Paton born 4th may 1873 High Church,Glasgow, Larnark > father John Paton and mother Janet Mcdougall > And so the story goes they are great grand parents of mine > yours Roberta Fleming(robbie) > robbiefleming63@hotmail .com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctrfw/ > > >

Hi Sharon Would be grateful if you could let me know if you find any DUNLOPS from Paisley. Thanks Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Exham" <sharon_exham@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:43 AM Subject: [Renfrew] Re: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > Have (from Society Library) Renfrewshire MIs pre-1855. Have it borrowed > until June 19. Would be happy to provide specifics. > > > > > From: SCT-RENFREW-D-request@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: SCT-RENFREW-L@rootsweb.com > To: SCT-RENFREW-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: SCT-RENFREW-D Digest V03 #158 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:00:43 -0600 > > << message2.txt >> > << message4.txt >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== SCT-RENFREW Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************** > The Renfrewshire Query board is at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Renfrew >

Sharon, To add my request to the many others you've had, could you please check for George DAVIDSON, died Greenock sometime after 1810. Thanks a lot, Pete Davidson