Listers, Seeking location of Crossflat, Renfrewshire. On 1881 Census my ancestor, Margaret Watson Ritchie gives Crossflat as her birthplace i 1830. I have a newpaper article from 1874 which mentions Crossflat Nursery furnishing decorations for a party and a Mrs. Fullerton from Crossflat in attendance. It would be helpful in trying to locate her parish birth records and information on her parents, which are given as William and Jane Wilson Watson, his occupation, Weaver's Warper on Margaret Ritchie's death record of 1881. Thanks for any help, Sally Drain

Hi Have you a Nile Elder from that era in your tree? Bill ======================================== Message Received: Sep 14 2006, 09:47 PM From: "Terri Lynn" To: "Sct Renfrew" Cc: Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Elder ancestors Hello Everyone; This is my first post to your list. Genealogy is something that I'm learning as I go along. I'm seeking information on my grandfather, Thomas Elder, born abt mid 1890, in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland ( I think?) I am sorry to say that I don't have an exact date of birth. According to a family story he was a Seaman, one story goes he alone went over board & was lost, the other story is that the entire ship went down & all on board lost. This was right around the start of WW2. Unfortunately I do not know the name of his ship. The information that I have at present is not very much, some of it I'm not to sure about, any help or advice will greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Terri Lynn Today well lived, makes everyday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bill; Sorry, I don't think that I have a Nile Elder. But I will certainly keep an eye out for him as my grandad did have siblings, but I don't know the names. I'm pretty sure that his parents were Thomas Elder & Margaret Brown Elder, nee Luke. Does this sound familiar to you? Regards, Terri Alberta, Canada william baxter <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Have you a Nile Elder from that era in your tree? Bill ======================================== Message Received: Sep 14 2006, 09:47 PM From: "Terri Lynn" To: "Sct Renfrew" Cc: Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Elder ancestors Hello Everyone; This is my first post to your list. Genealogy is something that I'm learning as I go along. I'm seeking information on my grandfather, Thomas Elder, born abt mid 1890, in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland ( I think?) I am sorry to say that I don't have an exact date of birth. According to a family story he was a Seaman, one story goes he alone went over board & was lost, the other story is that the entire ship went down & all on board lost. This was right around the start of WW2. Unfortunately I do not know the name of his ship. The information that I have at present is not very much, some of it I'm not to sure about, any help or advice will greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Terri Lynn Today well lived, makes everyday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Hello Terri Good luck in your quest. There are a number of sites you may find useful, one of which is Scotland's People. It is a pay site on which you can actually view and print out records since 1855 and order those beforehand. I would have expected to find a death like the one you describe in the Minor Records for Military or Shipping records, but instead I found someone who seems remarkably similar in some details - dying from some sort of accident in what appears to be a civil hospital in Kirkaldy, with the informant his son. I don't know how certain you are about the eafaring information on your Thomas Elder, but it wouldn't be the first time that the reality might be quite different from the stories passed down. Kirkaldy Fife 1942 Thomas Elder aged 52 male Linoleum worker married to Elizabeth Dawson September 5th Kirkaldy Hospital (time not clearly legible but something.33 p.m) parents Robert Stuart Elder, tailor and Christina Elder m.s. Haxton (Hapton? deceased cause: Extensive burns, 1 day shock, as cert. by Edward Whyte Informant L C (?) Elder, son. If you do think this could be your relative, then it would probably be worthwhile signing up with Scotland's People, as there is enough information for you to take the family further back from there. I couldn't resist checking this one out, and if you like I can send you the record off the list, but then you can have fun with the site yourself. As I say, it costs money, but nothing like the amount it would if you were to visit the GRO yourself or even order the records by mail. Living in Holland, we have found the website a boon and it has helped us open up a whole world of family history we never even dreamed of: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Good luck! Katie de Haan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Lynn" <[email protected]> To: "Sct Renfrew" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [SCT-RENFREW] Elder ancestors > Hello Everyone; > This is my first post to your list. Genealogy is something that I'm > learning as I go along. I'm seeking information on my grandfather, Thomas > Elder, born abt mid 1890, in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland ( I think?) I am > sorry to say that I don't have an exact date of birth. According to a > family story he was a Seaman, one story goes he alone went over board & > was lost, the other story is that the entire ship went down & all on board > lost. This was right around the start of WW2. Unfortunately I do not know > the name of his ship. The information that I have at present is not very > much, some of it I'm not to sure about, any help or advice will greatly > appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Terri Lynn > > > Today well lived, makes everyday a dream of happiness, > and every tomorrow a vision of hope. > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, John. My ggr, Charles Robin of Paisley, named his son John Bell Robin. I'm always looking to find a connection. But then I found that John Bell is the name of a composer of religious songs(from a page in my hymnal). Once I think I saw there was a marriage between the Bells and Robins back in 1700+. Someday I hope to find that info again. If you know of it, please let me know.

Hello Everyone; This is my first post to your list. Genealogy is something that I'm learning as I go along. I'm seeking information on my grandfather, Thomas Elder, born abt mid 1890, in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland ( I think?) I am sorry to say that I don't have an exact date of birth. According to a family story he was a Seaman, one story goes he alone went over board & was lost, the other story is that the entire ship went down & all on board lost. This was right around the start of WW2. Unfortunately I do not know the name of his ship. The information that I have at present is not very much, some of it I'm not to sure about, any help or advice will greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Terri Lynn Today well lived, makes everyday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

G'day List, I am re-posting my names in more detail as I often find I get queries from people on one mailing list asking about names from another list, and they are often very helpful too. In this game one never knows where leads are going to end up, so here is my full list: ABBOTT - Devon and Ireland ARCHER - Devon ASHFORD - Devon: Tiverton, Loxbeare AYRE - Devon: Tiverton BAMPTON - Surrey BARUGH - Yorkshire: Burneston area BELL - Scotland: Lanarkshire BODY/BODDY - Yorkshire: Kirkby Fleetham. Bedale, Aiskew, Newton BOWLEY - Birmingham area - Handsworth, Aston CHERY/CHERRY - Northampton, London CLAPHAM - Yorkshire: Snape, Burneston area CONNELL - Scotland: Lanarkshire COWDEROY - Yorkshire: Ripon, Londonderry and in Devon; London; Berkshire CROAD - Yorkshire: Downholme/Reeth area, Burneston, Pickhill CROWTHER - London; possibly Yorkshire and possibly Devon DEER/DEAR - Surrey?, London DIETRICHSEN - Scotland, Essex, Nottingham DODSWORTH - Yorkshire: Thornton Steward, Burneston area DONNE - Somerset EDEN - Devon, Kent, Essex ELKINS - Surrey: Farnham ELLERTON - Yorkshire: Downholme area, Bedale area, Burneston area ELLERTON - Devon: Tiverton HARRISON - Yorkshire: Burneston area HART - Surrey: Farnham; London HOBSON - Yorkshire: Bridlington KEEN - Surrey: Farnham; Hampshire KIVER - Devon, London KNIGHT - Hampshire LANKESTER - London?? LOWE - Westmoorland (Barrow-in-Furness) MATTHEWS - Essex, Derbyshire MITCHELL - Dublin, Eire MITCHELL - Yorkshire: Gatenby, Burneston NORTH - Yorkshire: Aiskew, Bedale area PATTERSON - Devon: Tiverton; maybe Surrey RENWICK - Hampshire, Dorset RIPLEY - Yorkshire: Bedale area RIVERS - Devon, Kent, Essex ROSSITER - Devon: Tiverton SCOT/SCOTT - Yorkshire: Newton, Bedale, Exelby, Londonderry SHANN - London, Essex SMITH - Yorkshire: Leeming, Burneston area SMITH - Surrey: Farnham (connected to HART) SMITH - Surrey: Farnham (connected to STURT) SPENCER - Devon STOCKDALE - Middlesex, Devon STURT - Surrey: Farnham TUCKER - Devon: Tiverton TUNSTALL - Yorkshire: Carthorpe, Burneston area VOISEY - Devon: Tiverton, Dawlish, Tavistock WALKER - Yorkshire: Leeming, Burneston area WEBSTER - Yorkshire: Kirkby Fleetham. Bedale, Aiskew, Newton WILLS - Devon: Tiverton, Tavistock WILTON - Devon, Sunderland: South Shields area WOODWARD - Yorkshire: Great Ouseburn, Dunsforth, Branton Green

Hi Johan, That's wonderful! Thanks so much for the info. Robert's wife was Elizabeth Topping(s), so I'm guessing the Lappings is a mistranscription. I'm really pleased to see an Irish connection as the only entry that fits for Robert in the 1841 census is this one in Neilston: Cross Arthurlie Village COOK John M 35 Calico Printer Ireland COOK Margaret F 35 Ireland COOK Elizabeth F 15 Bleacher Ireland COOK Mary F 13 Bleacher Ireland COOK Robert M 11 Ireland COOK William M 8 Ireland and I know he was born in Paisley in 1829. But the parents' names are right plus the age of his sister Mary Ann, so I'm guessing that the transcriber put Ireland for all the children when it only applied to the parents. :-) Also Robert's death certificate says he was married in Ireland, when the IGI shows a marriage on 11 Oct 1848 in Abbey Paisley. You've been a great help! Regards Jan >Hello Jan, >Happy to be able to let you know that Line 5 is Jean Lappings, mother-in-law, widow age 53, domestic srvant, born Ireland. >Also in the household is a John Malcolm, agricultural Labour, age illegible, born Ireland. >Regards >Johan Lochridge

Hi all, I've just joined this list after discovering my COOK family living in Abbey Paisley in the 1840s and 1850s. They emigrated to Tasmania in 1855. I've been sent this entry from the 1851 census index: Abbey, ward 474,enum 22,Page 4, Lines 1-4 Robert Cook aged 24 Elizabeth Cook aged 26 Robert aged 3 Jean aged 1 and Abbey, ward 474,enum 22,Page 4, Line 6 John Cook aged 8 I'm pretty sure that John is Robert's younger brother born 1829 Paisley (which probably means his parents have died). Does anyone have the census who could see who is on Line 5 (ward 474,enum 22,Page 4)please? It can't be a COOK as they would have shown up in the index. Many thanks Jan Qld Australia

Hello Jan, Happy to be able to let you know that Line 5 is Jean Lappings, mother-in-law, widow age 53, domestic srvant, born Ireland. Also in the household is a John Malcolm, agricultural Labour, age illegible, born Ireland. Regards Johan Lochridge ----- Original Message ---- From: Jan Glasby <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 7 September, 2006 5:06:48 PM Subject: [Renfrew] 1851 Abbey Paisley census - COOK Hi all, I've just joined this list after discovering my COOK family living in Abbey Paisley in the 1840s and 1850s. They emigrated to Tasmania in 1855. I've been sent this entry from the 1851 census index: Abbey, ward 474,enum 22,Page 4, Lines 1-4 Robert Cook aged 24 Elizabeth Cook aged 26 Robert aged 3 Jean aged 1 and Abbey, ward 474,enum 22,Page 4, Line 6 John Cook aged 8 I'm pretty sure that John is Robert's younger brother born 1829 Paisley (which probably means his parents have died). Does anyone have the census who could see who is on Line 5 (ward 474,enum 22,Page 4)please? It can't be a COOK as they would have shown up in the index. Many thanks Jan Qld Australia

Hi Listers, Anyone looking for any of the following: James Gilmour, born 1845, married Mary Crossan, 1867 Lochwinnoch Children: Sarah-1867; Adam-1869; Jeanie- 1871; Mary-1872; Grace-1874; James-1877; Matthew-1879; (Second wife- Jane's children: Isabella-1884; Allan-1891? Sally Drain Florida

G'day List, I am new to the list and am posting my interests below. From this list I am particularly seeking anyone searching the DIETRICHSEN name. Best wishes, John -- John Ellerton Searching for: Yorkshire: ELLERTON, BODDY, HARRISON, SCOT, COWDEROY, WEBSTER, RIPLEY, HOBSON Surrey: HART, KEEN Devon: TUCKER, WILTON, WILLS, WINTON London: MATTHEWS Anywhere: DIETRICHSEN

List. I am researching PERKS. An ancestor. (my grandfathers half brother) from Dorset(Weymouth) went up to Gourock,and worked in the Torpedo factory.. Sydney George Dawson PERKS, baptized. May be known as George Sydney PERKS..? died in 1941 aged 56 I understand he had children and that he also had some brothers. Anything would be helpful.. Lew.

Hi John There is a Cary B Dietrichsen female aged 71yrs born London of 8 Bexley Rd , Erith , Kent . England. in 1881 census. Bill ======================================== Message Received: Sep 03 2006, 04:20 AM From: "John Ellerton" To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: [Renfrew] Posting intersts - DIETRICHSEN G'day List, I am new to the list and am posting my interests below. From this list I am particularly seeking anyone searching the DIETRICHSEN name. Best wishes, John -- John Ellerton Searching for: Yorkshire: ELLERTON, BODDY, HARRISON, SCOT, COWDEROY, WEBSTER, RIPLEY, HOBSON Surrey: HART, KEEN Devon: TUCKER, WILTON, WILLS, WINTON London: MATTHEWS Anywhere: DIETRICHSEN

John Do you happen to have a Job Hobson born abt 1808 in Manchester, that emmigrated to the US abt 1829. If so I have him. Contact me direct (off list). Michael Paton On 9/2/06, John Ellerton <[email protected]> wrote:

HI Irene Patricia Taggart here, from our Cornish Group. I didn't know you had Caldwells, and you had no reason to know I had them either. My husband's Caldwells are from Kilbarchen too and we have a Robert born 1808. I think we need to share info. Look forward to hearing from you. Patricia -----Original Message----- From: Irene Polkinghorne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 11:26 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [Renfrew] Fw: CALDWELL JOHN - MARY DONALD new info also McMILLAN ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Polkinghorne To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: CALDWELL JOHN - MARY DONALD new info also McMILLAN Hello List I have returned with new info. With help of Certificates I now have new info JOHN CALDWELL b 1784 Ireland Parents are new married to MARY DONALD b 1791 Renfrewshire parents of: Mary CALDWELL b 1821 RFW Robert Donald CALDWELL b 1824 Kilbarchan ,RFW Mine********* I have a large line here married Margaret GROVE 20 Nov 1843 Paisley,RFW,Scotland William CALDWELL b 1831 RFW John CALDWELL B 1834 b RFW new info Married to ********* This is new Janet MCMILLAN 11 Nov 1854 Abbey Paisley RFW Jane CALDWELL b 1837 b RFW Any help would be great. Irene in New Zealand Years ago someone sent me the family on 1841 census have just now proved it. Anyone own any of the other kids.???

----- Original Message ----- From: Irene Polkinghorne To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: CALDWELL JOHN - MARY DONALD new info also McMILLAN Hello List I have returned with new info. With help of Certificates I now have new info JOHN CALDWELL b 1784 Ireland Parents are new married to MARY DONALD b 1791 Renfrewshire parents of: Mary CALDWELL b 1821 RFW Robert Donald CALDWELL b 1824 Kilbarchan ,RFW Mine********* I have a large line here married Margaret GROVE 20 Nov 1843 Paisley,RFW,Scotland William CALDWELL b 1831 RFW John CALDWELL B 1834 b RFW new info Married to ********* This is new Janet MCMILLAN 11 Nov 1854 Abbey Paisley RFW Jane CALDWELL b 1837 b RFW Any help would be great. Irene in New Zealand Years ago someone sent me the family on 1841 census have just now proved it. Anyone own any of the other kids.???

Just reposting my surname interests: BRODIE, CHRISTIE & DAWSON all from Paisley Also interested in reasons weavers might get involved in droving and move south to Norwich during the 1840s.

Does anybody have information on James Collins, a baker from Greenock, born about 1795 and died about 1838. He married 1. Agnes Collins in Linlithgow West Lothian in 1814. They had one son, James Potter Collins born 1818 and another son with the same name born 1822. James Potter Collins was also a baker. He married Helen Cain, born 1828 Inch Wigtownshire, in 1847 Old or West Parish Greenock. 2. Margaret Bennie in Campsie Stirling 1824. They had one daughter, Margaret Collins born West or Old Parish Greenock 1827. 3 Agnes Cruden 1833. They also had one daughter, Agnes Shearer Collins, born Old or West Parish Greenock abt 1836. Any information would be appreciated Regards Sandra

One line of my McDougall's come from the Isle of Lismore in Argyll and my g.g.grandmother came from Muthill, Perth/Stirlingshire. My husband's Pattison come from Dumfriesshire. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shell Leo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [Renfrew] pattison/mcdougall > hi to be honest i dont know where they come from this > is an off branch of the my family and im trying to > tidy up some loose ends > my guess is jane is from paisley but dont quote me on > it thanks michele > > --- alistair Stevenson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Do you know where your McDougall's came from in > > Scotland as I have them in > > two lines of my family tree. Sandy (Wagga x 2) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shell Leo" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:10 AM > > Subject: [Renfrew] pattison/mcdougall > > > > > > > WILLIAM 2 PATTISON (JAMES 1 ) was born 1822 in > > Abbey > > > (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland, and died 08 Apr 1891 > > in > > > 382 London > > > Road, Glasgow, lanark, Scotland. He married JANE > > > MCDOUGALL 27 Dec 1847 in Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, > > > Scotland. > > > More About WILLIAM PATTISON: > > > Cause of Death: Cancer of the Liver > > > Christening: 15 Dec 1822, Abbey (Paisley), > > Renfrew, > > > Scotland > > > Medical Information: His son William signed the > > death > > > certificate. > > > Occupation: 1891, Dyers Engine Keeper > > > > > > Children of WILLIAM PATTISON and JANE MCDOUGALL > > are: > > > i. WILLIAM 3 PATTISON, b. 1850, Johnstone, > > Renfrew, > > > Scotland; m. ISABELLA; b. 1852, Glasgow, Lanark, > > > Scotland. > > > Marriage Notes for WILLIAM PATTISON and ISABELLA: > > > Dwelling: 68 Canning Street > > > Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland > > > Source: FHL Film 0203644 GRO Ref Volume 644-4 > > EnumDist > > > 72 Page 15 > > > Mar r Age Sex Birthplace > > > William PATTISON M 30 M Johnstone, Renfrew, > > Scotland > > > Rel: Head > > > Occ: Provision Merchant (Master Employing 4 Men) > > > Isabella PATTISON M 28 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > > > Rel: Wife > > > Annie PATTISON U 27 F Lochwinnock, Renfrew, > > Scotland > > > Rel: Sister > > > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > ii. ANNIE PATTISON, b. 1852, Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, > > > Scotland. > > > iii. JAMES PATTISON, b. 1854, Lochwinnoch, > > Renfrew, > > > Scotland. > > > iv. THOMAS PATTISON, b. 1857, Lochwinnoch, > > Renfrew, > > > Scotland. > > > v. JEAN PATTISON, b. 03 Jul 1859, Old Field, > > > Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, Scotland. > > > vi. JANET PATTISON, b. 1862, Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, > > > Scotland. > > > vii. AMELIA PATTISON, b. 25 Sep 1865, Old Field, > > > Lochwinnoch, Renfrew, Scotland. > > > viii. JOHN PATTISON, b. 1867, Glasgow, Lanark, > > > Scotland. > > > ix. CATHERINE PATTISON, b. 1870, Glasgow, Lanark, > > > Scotland. > > > 4. x. MARY PATTISON, b. 1848, Johnston, Renfrew, > > > Scotland; d. 24 May 1908, 1 Blairtum Terrace, > > > Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland. > > > > > > hi would love to hear from anyone researching this > > > family thanks Michele > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >