Alistair Thanks for the response. I do hope I didnt sound like a moan yesterday. All previous research sorties have been so very enjoyable. This one, taken in a snatched hour from work (as I just couldnt wait to get to my fiche) proved to be just plain frustrating so I gave up and went back to work. I really do appreciate all the free research facilities and could happily volunteer myself, must be most rewarding when someone gets a 'hit', if it were not for a rather full time job. Roll on retirement. A quick check on LDS reveals that the fiche which awaits me tomorrow at the LDS centre is : (Books OPR 857a ; vols. 1-2) Contents: Baptisms, 1768-1855 -- Marriages, 1805-1854. Subjects Scotland, Kirkcudbright, Balmaghie - Church records I have already found my GGG Grandfather (Alexander Millar/Millers) 3 marriages, his eldest son Robert by his first wife (Grissel Mc Lansburgh), his 5 children (including my GG Grandfather George and 2 children named after the first wife !!) by his second wife (Agnes Barclay/Barcley)and the death of his 3rd wife (Mary Anderson). This last was attended by stepson Robert Millar which was wonderful as it set me wondering who on earth was Robert and lo and behold the first marriage came to light. What I am now trying to do is find any Miller/Millar entry in the area before the first of the marriages in 1917. I am in particular trying to find Alexanders birth which I assume to be late 1700s - a search on GROS which is where I found all the rest reveals Zilch. Nor can I find the record of any Miller death which I had been hoping to find. I noted down some McLansburgh entries yesterday so know that this family is from there. If I fail to find any Millers do I assume Alexander was born somewhere else and moved there with his first marriage or just that the records are incomplete ? Regards Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Alistair Cameron <[email protected]> To: JOY SALT <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: LDS PARISH RECORD FICHE > > > JOY SALT wrote: > > > Dear listers > > > > A question to which I am sure one of you has the answer. > > > > What is on a parish record fiche. Sounds a silly question I know but today I attacked the Balmaghie fiche. > > Can you please supply the fiche serial number. Otherwise you may get unsuitable advice. I'd like to help you. > > > > > A. The fiche reader being sited 18 inches too high for the chair > > B. The rapidly changing focus of my eyesight which means I don't wear glasses to read, do for distance and take them on and off for the PC (Off at the moment but..) > > C. The 2 grandchildren of the LDS site supervisor this morning who were lovely children but didnt seem to understand (and no-one told them) that they werent in the nursery. I had extreme difficulty concentrating on what my eyes were seeing because my ears were hearing too much too loudly! (Who revoked the rule that said children should be seen and not heard ....) > > These problems are found in free community resources, staffed by volunteers. There is another side to that problem, as I well know being myself a volunteer, enjoying myself while helping public, with four different societies. > > > Cheers......... > > ALISTAIR > >

JOY SALT wrote: > Thanks for the response. I do hope I didnt sound like a moan yesterday. Moaning is healthy. It stimulates the survival glands! > A quick check on LDS reveals that the fiche which awaits me tomorrow at the > LDS centre is : > (Books OPR 857a ; vols. 1-2) > Contents: Baptisms, 1768-1855 -- Marriages, 1805-1854. > Subjects Scotland, Kirkcudbright, Balmaghie - Church records > > Oh dear, we still don't have the actual fiche #. I *fear* you may have ordered > #6901416, which includes: Title Computer printout of Balmaghie, Krkcdb., Scot Note Location Film Births and christenings, A thru Z 1768-1853 FHL BRITISH Fiche 6901416 Marriages, A thru Z, 1805-1854 FHL BRITISH Fiche 6901417 © 2000 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. =================================== If you used #6901416 then be warned, that is a secondary source. Subject to errors and omissions. The primary source in handwriting, for 1768-1853 is #1067973 and hoorah! it probably has entries in it that have NOT been extracted to IGI or Printout. And note also, a lot of Borders events that are readable of film were NOT indexed into the OPR Index nor the Church Records CD. > I am in particular trying to find Alexanders birth which I assume to be late > 1700s - a search on GROS which is where I found all the rest reveals Zilch. If you know his parents' names, then finding his birth may be no great advantage. On the other hand, if those parent names are unproved then hope! that Alexander and his wife died in SCT after 1855 in which case the deaths entries should show the parentage incl. mothers' maiden surnames. And if the actual fiche # differs from 6901416, then do inform me 'cos I get my kicks as an amateur detective ;~) Cheers......... ALISTAIR

Alistair Thanks, Not sure which film I've got but it certainly has mostly handwritten notices. I think it must therefore be #1067973 . I will check the number on monday and let you know. Today I did a lot better and have identified that it is split into several parishes : Balmaghie (the one I want) Borgue Buitle Carshairn (can't read my own scribble) Colvern. Now I know which bit I want I can go through it at my leisure. ( or next time I sneak out of work for a long lunch - on Monday) I think I may order Tongland and Kirkcudbright in next if I don't have any success with this one. I have spotted 3 birth entries with a Mary Miller (married to David Mc Kie (I think)) who must be about same age as Alexander or a bit younger - so suspect she may be Alexanders sister. There are very few Miller entries on this Balmaghie film and most I already have. I unfortunately don't have any names for Alexanders parents - that is where I am stuck. I could suspect a fathers name of Robert -as that is the name of his first son - but that could just be a false clue put in there to trip me up. I spent several weeks assuming fathers name was Alexander until I discovered older brother Robert. Regards Joy - Original Message ----- From: Alistair Cameron <[email protected]> To: JOY SALT <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: LDS PARISH RECORD FICHE JOY SALT wrote: > Thanks for the response. I do hope I didnt sound like a moan yesterday. Moaning is healthy. It stimulates the survival glands! > A quick check on LDS reveals that the fiche which awaits me tomorrow at the > LDS centre is : > (Books OPR 857a ; vols. 1-2) > Contents: Baptisms, 1768-1855 -- Marriages, 1805-1854. > Subjects Scotland, Kirkcudbright, Balmaghie - Church records > > Oh dear, we still don't have the actual fiche #. I *fear* you may have ordered > #6901416, which includes: Title Computer printout of Balmaghie, Krkcdb., Scot Note Location Film Births and christenings, A thru Z 1768-1853 FHL BRITISH Fiche 6901416 Marriages, A thru Z, 1805-1854 FHL BRITISH Fiche 6901417 © 2000 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. =================================== If you used #6901416 then be warned, that is a secondary source. Subject to errors and omissions. The primary source in handwriting, for 1768-1853 is #1067973 and hoorah! it probably has entries in it that have NOT been extracted to IGI or Printout. And note also, a lot of Borders events that are readable of film were NOT indexed into the OPR Index nor the Church Records CD. > I am in particular trying to find Alexanders birth which I assume to be late > 1700s - a search on GROS which is where I found all the rest reveals Zilch. If you know his parents' names, then finding his birth may be no great advantage. On the other hand, if those parent names are unproved then hope! that Alexander and his wife died in SCT after 1855 in which case the deaths entries should show the parentage incl. mothers' maiden surnames. And if the actual fiche # differs from 6901416, then do inform me 'cos I get my kicks as an amateur detective ;~) Cheers......... ALISTAIR

Hi Joy I'm scrounging! I noticed your film includes Colvend. If you should get the chance, please would you mind looking for a marriage 1820-1822-ish between Robert Anderson and Isabella Dobie. I'm doubtful you'll find it as it wasn't in the index, nor on IGI or Origins. But, who knows? As I say, only if you have the time. Thanks Allan Anderson (near Liverpool) Researching ANDERSON/DOBIE/MARTIN/BEGG/GIBSON (Kirkcudbright, Dumfries) KAYLL/KAYLE (IOM,Liverpool,etc) http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/allanganderson/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOY SALT" <[email protected]> Today I did a lot better and have identified that it is split into several parishes : Balmaghie (the one I want) Borgue Buitle Carshairn (can't read my own scribble) Colvern.