Apologies to those who have replied already - should have clarified that I have 1851 Birse Census information plus 1861 Strachan, 1881 Birse showing their whereabouts. Also have copies of Parish records Strachan and Birse and Certiicates for post 1855 births of:- James born 1844 28 Mar Kincardine O'Neil bap 29 May John born 1845 27 August bap 8 September Janet born1847 24 Jan ScoliesCross, bap 24 February Jane born 1850 Meikle Ennochy Birse, 4 August bap 25 September William born 1852 29 August Meikle Ennochy, bap 6 October Margaret born 1854 Bridge of Dye, 23 June bap 29 August Elizabeth born 1855 Smithy Glen Dye, 15 December David born 1858 Bridge of Dye 11 July Charles born 1860 GlenDye 5 August Charles came out to NZ 1879, his sister Elspeth(Jane) preceeded him and had married Angus Mc Intyre in 1871. Diane Johns