Hi Alex, I suspect the census record was listing both Perthshire and Dunnottar as a birth place because the person giving the information to the census taker didn't know which was the actual birthplace. I lived in Stonehaven (which is in Kincardinshire not Aberdeenshire). I have been to Dunnottar Castle, which is actually now part of Stonehaven, but was once a part of the Dunnottar "parish" , and in fact the church is still there etc., in Kincardinshire, but doubt it was ever PERTHSHIRE. There are 60 - 80 miles in between the two areas. My mother is Scottish born and raised, and has many books on the areas of both Kincardineshire and Perthshire. Also in response to your question about Rabbie Burns... yes he was born in Kincardinshire and his family is from that area. They were farmers just outside Stonehaven. I am a distant cousin. I have a document with the genealogy lines showing the relationship. There is also a man who has a web site with much more information on the Burns family, but can't remember the site address right now. I will look it out for you if you are interested. If I can be of any more help, please let me know. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Help - Kincardineshire Hi, I need some help. I have entries from the Scottish 1851 Census, which say that a relative was born at Perthshire, Dunnottar. He would have been born circa 1800. I am Scottish, and please forgive my ignorance, but I have never heard of a Town/Village called Dunnottar. The only Dunnottar I know of is Dunnottar Castle, near Stonehaven, and Glenbervie, which are in Aberdeenshire. Is it possible that the Shire boundaries have been changed since 1800..?? Is/was Dunnottar a Parish in Perthshire. I remember reading that Rabbie Burns' family came from Glenbervie, Kincardineshire, is that true..?? Did Kincardinshire stretch all the way up to near Stonehaven at one time..?? I'm really confused about this one. Any help would be much appreciated. Best regards, Alex Brown