Hi Ken, I have family from Kincardine is this index you have online or is this something that takes you much typing to respond to queries? I am particularlly interested in Gerard as Alexander Gerard and Janet Irvine buried in Fetteresso are top of that line. John Gerard is the father and I found their grave in Fetteresso and the grave for Alexander Gerard and Isabel Lindsay where Alexander was born in 1738 (possibly a brother or of the same family as my John Gerard b abt 1733) Gordon McLeod Calgary, Alberta descenant of these Kincardine families Burness (share same ancestors as Robbie Burns (or Burness)), Mollison, Gerard, Murray, Scot(t) Fetteresso, Fordoun, Glenbervie, Marykirk, Arbuthnott -----Original Message----- From: Ken Coull [mailto:kcoull@shaw.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:12 AM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] MAT(T)HEWSON MIs Pre-1855 Kincardineshire Hi Rosemary, Although I can't help with your Census queries, I do have a copy of "Pre-1855 Gravestone Inscriptions: An Index for Kincardineshire (The Mearns)" edited by Alison Mitchell, 1986. The Laurencekirk cemetery contains no entries for MAT(T)HEWSONs. In fact, there are only a couple of entries for MAT(T)HEWSONs in all 29 Kincardineshire cemetries indexed in this publication both of which are in cemetries fairly distant from Laurencekirk: Fetteresso Kirkyard #347 1863. by Wm Donald tenant in Bridge of Leppie died Redmyre 11.7.1874 79, wife Ann Mackie 28.3.1863 54, 2nd son William 9.4.1861 24, 5th daughter Elsie Watson 6.11.1869 18, 4th son Alexander 27.5.1873 30, 3rd daughter Margaret 29.4.1904 58 (husband Alexander Mathewson tenant in Mansefield died 18.11.1894 76, his sister Janet Mathewson 21.8.1897 89) Maryculter, New Kirk #16 coped stone. by Sarah Stewart in memory of father Rev. William Law, 25 years schoolmaster in this parish & 30 years minister Portlethen died Mains of Portlethen 11.1.1870 73, mother Isobella Mathewson died Mains of Portlethen 17.2.1855 57, brother William died Assam, India 19.7.1864 24 (Ed: see Fasti vi) However, there are several MATHI(E)SONs: 5 MIs in Banchory Devenick Kirkyard; 1 in Durris Kirkyard; 3 in Fetteresso Kirkyard; and 1 in Cowie Kirkyard. Unfortunately, none of these are close to Laurencekirk. However, if you want the details about any or all of them please contact me off list: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kcoull&I11.x=31&I11.y=9 Ken Coull ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet http://www.snopes.com/ <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Rosemary, Although I can't help with your Census queries, I do have a copy of "Pre-1855 Gravestone Inscriptions: An Index for Kincardineshire (The Mearns)" edited by Alison Mitchell, 1986. The Laurencekirk cemetery contains no entries for MAT(T)HEWSONs. In fact, there are only a couple of entries for MAT(T)HEWSONs in all 29 Kincardineshire cemetries indexed in this publication both of which are in cemetries fairly distant from Laurencekirk: Fetteresso Kirkyard #347 1863. by Wm Donald tenant in Bridge of Leppie died Redmyre 11.7.1874 79, wife Ann Mackie 28.3.1863 54, 2nd son William 9.4.1861 24, 5th daughter Elsie Watson 6.11.1869 18, 4th son Alexander 27.5.1873 30, 3rd daughter Margaret 29.4.1904 58 (husband Alexander Mathewson tenant in Mansefield died 18.11.1894 76, his sister Janet Mathewson 21.8.1897 89) Maryculter, New Kirk #16 coped stone. by Sarah Stewart in memory of father Rev. William Law, 25 years schoolmaster in this parish & 30 years minister Portlethen died Mains of Portlethen 11.1.1870 73, mother Isobella Mathewson died Mains of Portlethen 17.2.1855 57, brother William died Assam, India 19.7.1864 24 (Ed: see Fasti vi) However, there are several MATHI(E)SONs: 5 MIs in Banchory Devenick Kirkyard; 1 in Durris Kirkyard; 3 in Fetteresso Kirkyard; and 1 in Cowie Kirkyard. Unfortunately, none of these are close to Laurencekirk. However, if you want the details about any or all of them please contact me off list: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kcoull&I11.x=31&I11.y=9 Ken Coull

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Hello Listers This is my first venture into your part of Scotland so please forgive my ignorance. Please does SKS have the 1861 census of Laurencekirk & would be willing to look for a William MATHEWSON? At Scottishdocuments.com Index Index of Wills I have found a Mathewson William, 25/7/1865, Assistant Factor, "residing in Laurencekirk", Stonehaven Sheriff Court. Can anyone tell me how many large Estates employing 'Factors' would be in the Laurencekirk area? Also, if there is one, would SKS please check for him on the 1851 census index? Genuki tells me that pre-1855 Gravestones at Laurencekirk have been Indexed. Does SKS have this index & would check for any MAT[T]HEWSONs please? Is there any index of later burials, specifically 1865? Many thanks Rosemary in Western Australia

Hi Ruth: I have no relationship to this family. However, I can pass on something that happened on my research. As you know death cert. info is only as good as it's informant. Which can be a relative who never knew the grandparents or a son in law who is reporting hearsay. In my research I obtained the death certificates for two brothers, one gave the mother's name as Agnes Mcrobert and the other said Agnes Crawford. My first thought was that the father married twice. After searching it turned that Agnes Mcrobert was the mother and that Agnes Crawford was the grandmother of the deceased. One of the informant got his grandmother and great grand mother names' confused. Something to keep in mind. >----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: "Ruth Edwards" <bredwards@datafast.net.au> >To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: James Beattie > >Hello Listers, >would anyone have a James Beattie and an Isobel Ritchie in their tree. >On my G G Grandmother's death certificate, in 1870 in Benholm it states >_Julia Strachan age 59 m/s Beattie, Father James Beattie, mother Isobel >Ritchie, both dec. >On the 1851 and 1861 census she is listed as having been born in Dun , >Forfar. >I can find no record of this couple, Julia and her husband David Strachan >did not have an Isobel, but did have a James, some of their children also >had a James and a James Beattie. >If anyone has any ideas on this , I would be delighted to hear from them. >Thanks >Ruth Edwards ****************************** Subscription-free Internet: Connect to: 0845 608 1304 ID: scot - Password: free It's that easy! Pass it on! ******************************

A parish by parish account of the war memorials for the men and women from Kincardineshire who died in the Great War is up and running at http://vzone.virgin.net/ian.edwards2/kincardine.htm If you can't find who you're looking for, just ask. Ian Edwards Montrose

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Hello Dorothy I am insterested in the part of your email regarding Whitestone in Maryculter, Kincardine. Was/is this Whitestone a farm or a village? I am linked through my family to Whitestone farm outside of Kemnay, Aberdeen, and wonder if this is one and the same place. Regards Mary NZ

Hello Doug, thank you very much for the information about Whitehall. I have entered the information into my computer program. I have another question for you and I will be happy to pay you for the information. My ancestors were Jane Nicol and James Gordon. They were married Feb. 7, 1819 in Strachen. Jane died Feb. 9, 1832 at Blackhall Mansion, Strachen. I descend from their first child, Jannet (Jessie) Gordon. Jannet was born Nov. 20, 1819 in Strachen. Do you have any information concerning the family of Jane Nicol? All I know about her is her marriage and death dates. I do not know who her parents were or her place of birth. Is this a branch of the Nicol family that you have researched? If so, could I have the information. Again, I thank you for the information you sent me. Sincerely, Dorothy Bailey dgcdmb@Bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Nicol" <ndnicol@epix.net> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Massie/Shepherd > Hello Mary and Dorothy, > > Whitestone is/was a dwelling house in Maryculter on the south side of > Hill of Blairs, west of Greenloaning, and is part of the Kingcausie estate. > > Best wishes, > > Doug Nicol > > -- > Norman D. Nicol, Ph.D. > Professional Genealogist/Family Historian > Specializing in NE Pennsylvania, NYC, > Scotland, England, esp. Cornwall > > > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Mary and Dorothy, Whitestone is/was a dwelling house in Maryculter on the south side of Hill of Blairs, west of Greenloaning, and is part of the Kingcausie estate. Best wishes, Doug Nicol -- Norman D. Nicol, Ph.D. Professional Genealogist/Family Historian Specializing in NE Pennsylvania, NYC, Scotland, England, esp. Cornwall

Hello all, I have another ancestor I don't know anything about, his name is Alexander Wattie. Alexander married Betsy McPherson in April 1851 in Strachan. My gr-grandmother Ann Wattie was their first child. I believe Alexander Wattie had something to do with water. Perhaps he did something on a boat, or fishing, or a bridge tender, . I have no idea why I think this. Does anyone know anything about Alexander and or his parents? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Good luck in your research. Sincerely- Dorothy Bailey Louisiana, USA dgcdmb@Bellsouth.net

Hello all, I hope some one can help me. I am researching the family of my grandfather Alexander Massie. My gr-grandmother, Agnes Forbes Massie died May 1, 1916 at Whitestone in Maryculter, Kincardine. The informant of her death was her son-in-law, John Shepherd. Does anyone know of this John Shepherd and his family? Was the name of his wife Agnes Massie? Is anyone researching a Shepherd or Massie family from the Udny or Culsalmond, Aberdeenshire area or the Maryculter area? Any information about the Massie and/or Shepherd families would be greatly appreciated. On my grandmother's side I would like to learn about William Collie. William Collie and Jannet Gordon had a son, George Shepherd Collie, born Nov. 23, 1848 in Strachan. William and Jannet did not marry. William Collie is my gr-gr-grandfather. The only thing I know about him is his name. Thank you all for reading this rather long note. Good luck in your research. Sincerely- Dorothy Bailey Louisiana, USA dgcdmb@Bellsouth.net

I'm sorry to say I don't have any more information on Alexander Stewart. I have noted the marriage to Jean officer before but have not been able to prove the link. Good luck. Iain -----Original Message----- From: mscaleb [mailto:mscaleb@texas.net] Sent: 14 August 2004 18:18 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Interests: STUART... I'm looking for my 3rd great grandfather Alexander Stewart, born in 'Smith, Scotland.' He married Jean Officer, no birth info, on December 18, 1830, in Arbuthnott. Their daughter Mary Jean Stewart was born February 28, 1838, in Laurancekirk. On March 14, 1857, in Laurancekirk, she married John Ross, born about October 4, 1833, in Fearn Parish, Ross & Cromarty. Do you have any information on your Alexander Stuart that would link him to teh above information? Iain Stewart wrote: >Dear List, > >I am interested in David Stuart born circa 1781 who married Jean Sharp on 27 >May 1805 in Fordoun. He was a farm servant/general labourer and died on 14 >Nov 1859 in Laurencekirk and was buried there. On his death certificate his >parents were declared as (---?---) Stewart and Margaret Tindal and that his >father was a miller. > >Children: > >1. James Stuart christened 22 Sep 1805 in Fordoun >2. Elizabeth Stuart christened 27 Nov 1806 in Fordoun >3. David Stuart born 6 Nov 1808 in Logie-Pert, Married Betsy Milne, >Died 30 Nov 1870 in St Cyrus >4. John Stuart born 1 Mar 1810 in Logie-Pert, Married (a) Margaret >Nicol (b) Betsy Gabriel, Died 26 Feb 1884 in Laurencekirk (my >g-g-grandfather) >5. Alexander Stuart christened 10 Jan 1812 in Fordoun >6. Charles Stuart born christened Oct 1815 in Fordoun > >If anyone has any further information I would be really grateful. > >Iain Stewart >Warwick, England > > >

I'm looking for my 3rd great grandfather Alexander Stewart, born in 'Smith, Scotland.' He married Jean Officer, no birth info, on December 18, 1830, in Arbuthnott. Their daughter Mary Jean Stewart was born February 28, 1838, in Laurancekirk. On March 14, 1857, in Laurancekirk, she married John Ross, born about October 4, 1833, in Fearn Parish, Ross & Cromarty. Do you have any information on your Alexander Stuart that would link him to teh above information? Iain Stewart wrote: >Dear List, > >I am interested in David Stuart born circa 1781 who married Jean Sharp on 27 >May 1805 in Fordoun. He was a farm servant/general labourer and died on 14 >Nov 1859 in Laurencekirk and was buried there. On his death certificate his >parents were declared as (---?---) Stewart and Margaret Tindal and that his >father was a miller. > >Children: > >1. James Stuart christened 22 Sep 1805 in Fordoun >2. Elizabeth Stuart christened 27 Nov 1806 in Fordoun >3. David Stuart born 6 Nov 1808 in Logie-Pert, Married Betsy Milne, >Died 30 Nov 1870 in St Cyrus >4. John Stuart born 1 Mar 1810 in Logie-Pert, Married (a) Margaret >Nicol (b) Betsy Gabriel, Died 26 Feb 1884 in Laurencekirk (my >g-g-grandfather) >5. Alexander Stuart christened 10 Jan 1812 in Fordoun >6. Charles Stuart born christened Oct 1815 in Fordoun > >If anyone has any further information I would be really grateful. > >Iain Stewart >Warwick, England > > >

Dear List, I am interested in David Stuart born circa 1781 who married Jean Sharp on 27 May 1805 in Fordoun. He was a farm servant/general labourer and died on 14 Nov 1859 in Laurencekirk and was buried there. On his death certificate his parents were declared as (---?---) Stewart and Margaret Tindal and that his father was a miller. Children: 1. James Stuart christened 22 Sep 1805 in Fordoun 2. Elizabeth Stuart christened 27 Nov 1806 in Fordoun 3. David Stuart born 6 Nov 1808 in Logie-Pert, Married Betsy Milne, Died 30 Nov 1870 in St Cyrus 4. John Stuart born 1 Mar 1810 in Logie-Pert, Married (a) Margaret Nicol (b) Betsy Gabriel, Died 26 Feb 1884 in Laurencekirk (my g-g-grandfather) 5. Alexander Stuart christened 10 Jan 1812 in Fordoun 6. Charles Stuart born christened Oct 1815 in Fordoun If anyone has any further information I would be really grateful. Iain Stewart Warwick, England

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Hi Ruth, Thanks so much for your note --- I wonder if it would have been one of my ancestors? My grandfather was Joseph BIRSE, great grandfather was William BIRSE . Great uncles were Alexander , James & William. They would have been the only living male BIRSE relatives in 1900. A BIRSE relative, Euphemia did emigrate to Australia and married an A. DOUGLAS -- that's all the information that I have about her. Good Luck with your searches, Betty in Ontario, Canada Barbara Edwards wrote: >Hello Betty, >funny coincidence, I have an invitation,for my Grandmother Isabella Strachan >and Thomas Aitchison 20th July 1900 in the Laurencekirk Masonic Hall, the >invitation is to Mr and Mrs Birse, pity it didn't have a Christian name, or >address. >I have often wondered who they were. >Ruth Edwards > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Moe and Betty Hemsley" <elmoe.hemsley@sympatico.ca> >To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:26 AM >Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: BIRSE / RIDDELL / ROSS / > > > > >>Renewing my research for any descendants of these families - >>BIRSE - c 1675 >>RIDDELL - c 1752 >>ROSS - c 1779 all in Kincardineshire >>Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. >>Betty - in Canada >> >> >>==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== >>We have archives! Search for your SCT-KINCARDINE information here..... >>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=SCT-KINCARDINE >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > >==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== >List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: >Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

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Hello Betty, funny coincidence, I have an invitation,for my Grandmother Isabella Strachan and Thomas Aitchison 20th July 1900 in the Laurencekirk Masonic Hall, the invitation is to Mr and Mrs Birse, pity it didn't have a Christian name, or address. I have often wondered who they were. Ruth Edwards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe and Betty Hemsley" <elmoe.hemsley@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: BIRSE / RIDDELL / ROSS / > Renewing my research for any descendants of these families - > BIRSE - c 1675 > RIDDELL - c 1752 > ROSS - c 1779 all in Kincardineshire > Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. > Betty - in Canada > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > We have archives! Search for your SCT-KINCARDINE information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=SCT-KINCARDINE > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Further to my posting Gray Francis William Grant Gray C.27/1/1854 } Kirriemuir Angus 1885. Jane Barrie B. 15/4/1857 } Kirriemuir Angus 1885. William Gray & Ann Mann Parents of FWG Gray. (OPR 54 299/ 1-3). I've found the following; William Gray & Ann Mann married 24/5/1840 Kirriemuir. (M112994). Children: Charles Gray c.18/1/1836 Kirriemuir Angus. Elizabeth (Betty) Gray c.13/11/1841 Kirriemuir Angus. James Gray c.13/10/1843 Kirriemuir Angus. William Gray c.23/2/1848 Kirriemuir Angus. David Gray c.13/7/1850 Kirriemuir Angus. Robert Craig Gray b.14/6/1855 Kirriemuir Angus. Ann Gray b.28/6/1857 Kirriemuir Angus. George Mann Gray b.27/7/1859 Kirriemuir Angus. John Fairley Gray b.8/10/1861 Kirriemuir Angus. William Gray b.2/1/1864 Kirriemuir Angus. Further to Ann Mann Wife of William Gray. Ann Mann b. 30/1/1823 c.7/2/1823 (C112994). Parents James Mann & Elizabeth (Betty) Low . Children Mary Mann c. 26/1/1821 Kirriemuir. Ann Mann c. 7/2/1823 Kirriemuir. Margaret Mann b. 13/2/1827 Kirriemuir. Alistair Bell.