on 10/2/04 8:00 PM, Wece49@aol.com at Wece49@aol.com wrote: > Colin , Which is a good name One of my grandsons is Colin Jones. I have > printed out the information and I will dig back in my files. I think my James > father was Robert. If we are all from Kincardine and ended up in Brechin we > are most likely from the same bunch. I went to Scotland for 2 weeks in 2001. > I > was very lucky as I had a Grandmother from Brechin who filled my head with > stories about when she was young and her trips back and forth from Brechin to > New York City. Therefore I had good information. then on a Scottish chat > line > I met a wonderful woman born in Brechin now in CT. and she sent me more > information so that when I went over I had names and addresses. The people > were so > wonderful to us. I am an Episcopal Chaplain and I got in touch with the > Priest at the church they attended in 1888 and when we got there they had a > tea for > me and a cake that said Welcome Home Mary. > It is something I will never forget. Then we went to the Brechin Cathedral > and came around the corner to a huge stone that was my GGG Grandparents. I > cried and my husband did not know what had happened but to me it was > wonderful. > They had died back in the 1860s. From the census I had the address of my GG > grandparents and the people invited me to come sit on the stoop with them. > Marykirk, Lauerancekirk and several other little towns in Kincardine are very > small and the church yards are very old.. The tomb stones have not been keep > up so reading them is hard. We were there in April and walked 12 church > yards in the rain and cold wind. It is only about a 10 min drive from Angus > to > Kincardine. Little country roads. We rented a car as the train did not go > where we wanted to go. My Scotch familys are Bruce, Cooper , Duncan, Burness, > Low > and so many more. On the Burness side my GGGG GRandmother Helen Burness was a > cousin to Robert Burns the poet who was born Robert Burness in Kincardine. I > belong to the Scottish Clans of N Tex and I carry the Bruce Clan colors and > wear the Bruce Clan Plaid. > > > I see you are in Canada and I am in North , TX so we are far apart. Good > luck with your search. I am searching Scottish Welsh English and French > Huguenot. > > Mary Jones > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.snopes.com/ > <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > To Mary, Colin and all What a wonderful story. I have goose bumps just reading it. I wish I could find some living relatives from my Coutts relatives from Strachan. I have just recently learned who they are. I can keep hoping and looking. I know you will cherish those memories. -- Bev Phillips Markham Ontario Canada

Colin, I have an Isabel MATHERS c.8/7/1739 at Lethnot. She was the daughter of Alexander MATHERS & Margaret BOWMAN.. I also have a Sarah MILL.b11/10/1744 daughter of David MILL & Jean DUNDARG who married David TOSH. I have many Mathers relations in BC.where my gt.grandparents & eightof their twelve children settled. I'm sure there is a David JOLLY in my list somewhere so i'll check that out later. Regards. Jan Jan Bell Newsdesk1_2000@yahoo.co.uk Newsdesk1@excite.com --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Colin , Which is a good name One of my grandsons is Colin Jones. I have printed out the information and I will dig back in my files. I think my James father was Robert. If we are all from Kincardine and ended up in Brechin we are most likely from the same bunch. I went to Scotland for 2 weeks in 2001. I was very lucky as I had a Grandmother from Brechin who filled my head with stories about when she was young and her trips back and forth from Brechin to New York City. Therefore I had good information. then on a Scottish chat line I met a wonderful woman born in Brechin now in CT. and she sent me more information so that when I went over I had names and addresses. The people were so wonderful to us. I am an Episcopal Chaplain and I got in touch with the Priest at the church they attended in 1888 and when we got there they had a tea for me and a cake that said Welcome Home Mary. It is something I will never forget. Then we went to the Brechin Cathedral and came around the corner to a huge stone that was my GGG Grandparents. I cried and my husband did not know what had happened but to me it was wonderful. They had died back in the 1860s. From the census I had the address of my GG grandparents and the people invited me to come sit on the stoop with them. Marykirk, Lauerancekirk and several other little towns in Kincardine are very small and the church yards are very old.. The tomb stones have not been keep up so reading them is hard. We were there in April and walked 12 church yards in the rain and cold wind. It is only about a 10 min drive from Angus to Kincardine. Little country roads. We rented a car as the train did not go where we wanted to go. My Scotch familys are Bruce, Cooper , Duncan, Burness, Low and so many more. On the Burness side my GGGG GRandmother Helen Burness was a cousin to Robert Burns the poet who was born Robert Burness in Kincardine. I belong to the Scottish Clans of N Tex and I carry the Bruce Clan colors and wear the Bruce Clan Plaid. I see you are in Canada and I am in North , TX so we are far apart. Good luck with your search. I am searching Scottish Welsh English and French Huguenot. Mary Jones

Hi Mary, I cannot go back as far as you have gone however, there are some interesting similarities, enough to send this ancestor tree and ask you if any of these Low's show up in your tree. I gather from your message that you have been to Marykirk or vicinity if you sat on the porch of the 1880's. I too would love to do such but I must find some living relatives to visit. Can't converse much with the ones I have found in the churchyards. ! Here is my LOW ancestry in Scotland; Agnes Low, b1818, married Henry Webster, b 1817, Dec 15, 1843 Agnes Low was the daughter of John Low b 1781and Janet Jolly 1782; D. Aug 15, 1868 in Brechin at home of son James; John Low was the son of James Low and Isabel Mathers ; Hope we can hook something up here ! Best wishes, COLIN MILLS, B.C. Canada

Your welcome I also have several Low in the family. Mine are from Marykirk in Kincardine not far from Edzell. Elizabeth Low born in March of 1748 and her father John Low born June 1716. That side of my family all moved to Brechin where I was lucky to find all their graves in the cathdual Kirk yard. I even got to sit on the porch of their home in 1880's. If you ever find you family connection that way let me know. Mary

Big thanks to Wece49, much appreciated and very helpful. Colin in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wece49@aol.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1881 census > LOW, James Head <1811> Birth: Angu Edzell > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Jessie Head <1813> Birth: Kinc Fettercairn > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Martha Serv <1814> Birth: Angu Lochlee > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Agnes Wife <1819> Birth: Angu Montrose > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Margaret Head <1819> Birth: Angu Edzell > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Ann Head <1820> Birth: Angu Edzell > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Jane Sis <1821> Birth: Angu Edzell > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Isabella Sis <1826> Birth: Angu Edzell > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, Isabella Bord <1852> Birth: Angu Menmuir > Census: Forf Edzell > LOW, James Serv <1855> Birth: Angu Montrose > > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

LOW, James Head <1811> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Jessie Head <1813> Birth: Kinc Fettercairn Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Martha Serv <1814> Birth: Angu Lochlee Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Agnes Wife <1819> Birth: Angu Montrose Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Margaret Head <1819> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Ann Head <1820> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Jane Sis <1821> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Isabella Sis <1826> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell LOW, Isabella Bord <1852> Birth: Angu Menmuir Census: Forf Edzell LOW, James Serv <1855> Birth: Angu Montrose

WEBSTER, Helen Head <1839> Birth: Angu Lochlee Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Alexr. Head <1847> Birth: Angu Craig Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Sarah Wife <1848> Birth: Inve Kingussie Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Charles Son <1873> Birth: Angu Craig Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Susan Ann Dau <1875> Birth: Angu Brechin Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Sarah Dau <1877> Birth: Angu Edzell Census: Forf Edzell WEBSTER, Christina Dau <1879> Birth: Angu Edzell

Hi Jill, Would you do me a favor and see if there are any WEBSTERS or LOW (LOWE) in the Edzell Parish area of Scotland in your 1881 cencus. My WEBSTERS immigrated to County Carlow, Ireland in about 1856 but I have never been able to find out specifically where they came from. One son, Henry Low Webster was born in Edzell in 1848 ---------however, there may have been othres remaining in that area. Your help will be appreciated. Colin Mills, Kamloops, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Simon" <jilsimon@telus.net> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 6:35 PM Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1881 census > Hi > I have the 1881 Census for Scotland. > Jill > Nanaimo, BC > Canada > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10/09/2004 > > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the SCT-KINCARDINE list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > SCT-KINCARDINE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > SCT-KINCARDINE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I'm looking for David Bell b.1776. But the only info I can find is the following: 18 24 Jul 1776 BELL DAVID PATRICK BELL/ANN THOMSON M AUCHTERHOUSE 273/00 0002 19 29 Sep 1776 BELL DAVID ROBERT BELL/JANET WOOD M LARGO 443/00 0003 20 16 Mar 1776 BELL DAVID THOMAS BELL/ M BARR 580/00 0001 I think I can safely reject the Barr David,(Strathclyde), is Largo near to Strachan (or is it Fife)?? I know that Auchterhouse is in the county of Angus near to Newtyle. But is there an Auchterhouse near to Strachan as well?? Alistair Bell.

Updated Posting @ 29/9/2004. My Interests are: David Bell 1776 Strachan Married Elizabeth Ross. **Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1789 Parents William Ross / Janet Lyon Aberdeen. FR3095.** Elizabeth Ross Came from the Birse Area. Parents of William Bell b.1821 Strachan Kincardineshire. Grocer Logie-Pert. Wife Ann Baird (b.17/9/1823. Montrose). Ann Baird - Parents William Baird & Ann Leighton. Family of William (6/6/1822). 1./ William Bell (Grocer) (1822). married Ann Baird.8/12/1843 at Logie Pert. 2./ Agnes Bell.(b. 11/11/1843) Logie Pert. Married x1 Crockett. x2 Frank Phipps. 3./ Son Phipps Unknown. 2./ Ann Bell ( 1848) Married George Dakers (b.1844). 2/ Ann #2 Bell. Married Unknown, Child N/A born 1900. Daughter Nora born 1905. 2./ Elizabeth Bell..(b. 1854) Logie Pert. Married Mr Miller. 2./ Isobel Bell. (b. 1849) Married John Beattie, in 1869 Logie Pert.. 2./ Jane Bell. (b. 1851) Logie Pert. 2./ Margaret Bell.(b. 1858) Logie Pert. 2./ Mary Bell. (1846) Logie-Pert. 2./ Alexander Bell.(b. 1859) Logie Pert. 2./ David Bell. (29/8/1863) Logie Pert. Married Jessie Petrie, on 15 Dec 1893 in St Vigeans Arbroath. 2./ William Bell..(b. 1852) Logie Pert.

Hi Catherine, Do you have any information on Birse or Strachan ?? My Interests are: David Bell Pre-1800 (Wife Elizabeth Ross). Elizabeth Ross Came from the Birse Area. Parents of William Bell b.1821 Strachan Kincardineshire. Grocer Logie-Pert. Wife Ann Baird b. 1823 Montrose. Ann Baird - Parents William Baird & Ann Leighton. Family of William (1821-). 1./ William Bell (Grocer) (1821). married Ann Baird. 2./ Agnes Bell. Married x1 Crockett. x2 Frank Phipps. 3./ Son Phipps Unknown. 2./ Ann Bell 2/ Ann #2 Bell. Married Unknown, Child N/A born 1900. Daughter Nora born 1905. 2./ Elizabeth Bell. 2./ Isobel Bell. 2./ Jane Bell. 2./ Margaret Bell. 2./ Mary Bell. 2./ Alexander Bell. 2./ David Bell. (1863). Married Jessie Petrie. 2./ William Bell. Family of David Bell (1863-1907). David Bell (Blacksmith) (1895) New Zealand. Edward Bell (Railwayman).(1900-1975). Married Susan Rioch. (1904-1983). Robert "Bob" Crockett Bell. Killed WW1 France. William Milne Bell (Railwayman). Married Mary Smith. No Family. Alexander Brown Bell (Railwayman) (1903-1991). Married Jean Ogilvy Milne. (1906-1980). Jessie Ann Bell. (1906 - 1996). Married Alexander "Sandy" Cowie.(1906- 1973). Alistair Bell.

The following are my known relatives, I've been able to trace. I'm looking specifically for STRACHAN Kincardinshire Bells. Bell David Bell ggggf Married 25/11/1810 in Strachan Kincardinshire to Elizabeth Ross . William Bell gggf (Grocer)@ Hill of Carony Logie Pert Forfarshire . Dob 6/6/1822 Born in Strachan Kincardinshire. Married 8/12/1843 in Logie Pert Forfarshire to Ann Baird Dob 17/9/1823. Family - Agnes. (b.10/11/1843). - Ann. (b. 1848). - Isobell. (b. 15/4/1849). - William. (b. 5/12/1852). - Elizabeth. (b.8/10/1854). - Margaret. (b. 1/7/1857). - Alexander. (b. 3/5/1859). - Mary. (b. 11/1/1846). - David (b. 29/8/1863). - Mary. (b. 11/1/1846). - Jane. (b. 11/4/1851). David Bell ggf Dob 1863 Married St Vigeans 15/12/1893 to Jessie Petrie Dob 1/6/1870. Alexander Brown Bell gf 6/8/1903 Married Jean Ogilvie Milne 31/3/1906. John Milne Bell father 11/3/1937 Married Elizabeth Mary Gray 14/6/1937. Does anyone have any connections, place details, dates etc. Many Thanks. Alistair Bell.

Hi Carol, I have one family from Laurencekirk: On 4 Jan 1845 Laurencekirk, John WATT (b. Abt 1818 Bervie) married Margaret TOUGH (b. Abt 1826 Fordoun parish) and, according to the IGI, they had the following children all born Laurencekirk: George 29 Jul 1849 David 16 Sep 1851 Margaret 14 Dec 1853 Alexander 23 Feb 1858 William 13 Jan 1861 (m. Ann SCORGIE, a 1st cousin of mine, about 1886) Marianne Jane 7 Apr 1864 James 16 Nov 1865 Ken Coull

Hi, Is anyone researching WATT from Laurencekirk ? TIA, Carol.

Hi Gordon, No, the index pre-1855 gravestone inscriptions in Kincardineshire prepared by Alison Mitchell in 1986 is not on line. I search the paper copy and key in the relevant Gravestone Inscriptions. The publication is still available from the Scottish Genealogy Society for 16 pounds Sterling. You can check it out at: http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/acatalog/Kincardineshire_MI.html In this publication, there are GER(R)ARDs in Banchory Devenick Kirkyard (3); Durris Kirkyard (1); Fetteresso Kirkyard (10); Cowie Kirkyard (1); Old Templars' Park, Maryculter (1); and Upper St. Cyrus (2). Please contact me off line if you want any or all of these. My e-mail address can be found at: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kcoull&I11.x=31&I11.y=9 Ken

Hello Listers Does anyone have the 1881 census for Scotland (Kincardineshire/Aberdeenshire) & would look for these people please? Alexander MATHEWSON aged about 63, (?tenant in Mansefield) & his wife Margaret MATHEWSON aged about 35. Also Janet MATHEWSON aged about 73. (Alexander & Margaret were married in Laurencekirk & buried in Fetteresso Kirkyard, so I guess they'd be found somewhere in those areas.) Thankyou Rosemary in Western Australia

Hi I have the 1881 Census for Scotland. Jill Nanaimo, BC Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 10/09/2004

>From: Rosemary Martin <panorama@primus.com.au> >Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:16:07 +0800 > >Hello Listers >Does anyone have the 1881 census for Scotland You can do this search on line here http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ - and check the 1891, 1901 and BMDs as well. Lesley Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/

Hello Rosemary, From the LDS 1881 UK Census CD ROM: Dwelling: Mansfield Farm House Census Place: Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203469 GRO Ref Volume 258-1 EnumDist 5 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alexander MATHIESON M 59 M Tyree, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer of About 20 Acres Employing 1 Girl Margaret MATHIESON M 35 F Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife Alexander Wm. MATHIESON U 7 M St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar George D. MATHIESON U 5 M St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son James Mc B. MATHIESON U 3 M St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son Sophia MATHIESON U 1 F Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur Janet MATHIESON U 65 F Tyree, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Sister Williamina DUNCAN U 20 F Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Genl Servt Best wishes, Ian Edwards Montrose, Angus, Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemary Martin To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1881 census Hello Listers Does anyone have the 1881 census for Scotland (Kincardineshire/Aberdeenshire) & would look for these people please? Alexander MATHEWSON aged about 63, (?tenant in Mansefield) & his wife Margaret MATHEWSON aged about 35. Also Janet MATHEWSON aged about 73. (Alexander & Margaret were married in Laurencekirk & buried in Fetteresso Kirkyard, so I guess they'd be found somewhere in those areas.) Thankyou Rosemary in Western Australia ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237