Thanks for reply Margaret. Oathlaw is barely 15 miles from Kincardine so you never know. Also One George HERD gravitated to Logie Pert and then died in Kirriemuir. Kathleen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <margaret@scottishwool.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] HERD or HIRD > On 1/2/05 5:15 pm, "parkneuk1940" <parkneuk1940@smartk.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote: > > > My first with proof is Alexander wife Mary CARR/KERR from Son Davids' death > > Cert. David was born 1794 in St Cyrus. > Looks like a different family .. Ours are in Oathlaw Angus by 1750's > > Robin

On 1/2/05 5:15 pm, "parkneuk1940" <parkneuk1940@smartk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > My first with proof is Alexander wife Mary CARR/KERR from Son Davids' death > Cert. David was born 1794 in St Cyrus. Looks like a different family .. Ours are in Oathlaw Angus by 1750's Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

On 1/2/05 4:47 pm, "Helen Miller" <hesmlr@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'm sorry but this is all listed in my book but for what it's worth. If you > need the entire inscription on any of the above, let me know. Thanks I saw your email of earlier in January and made notes .. Robin Ps we have a MILLER challenge too. We are trying to find James MILLER a Sea Captain who was lost at sea in the months before his daughter was born ..entry in family bible is 'James Anna Murray is the daughter of Captain James MILLER who was lost at sea between Aug1821 and May 23rd 1822 we possess an oil painting of him' We have photo of the Oil painting which is with another descendant of James Anna. Although James Anna is consistent in stating birth place as North Shields Northumberland we can find no trace of a baptism. -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

Hello Robin and Margaret, I am researching HERD in Kincardineshire, but am not as far back as you are. My first with proof is Alexander wife Mary CARR/KERR from Son Davids' death Cert. David was born 1794 in St Cyrus. David's other siblings.Elizabeth, Ann, Mary, Robert all born St Cyrus. I have more on David and Roberts linesof descent. Happy to share information. Kind regards, Kathleen. All my incoming and outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2004 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <margaret@scottishwool.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] HERD or HIRD > Is there an MI for William HERD or HIRD in Kincardineshire pre 1800? > > We begin to suspect that our HERD line came from Kincardineshire... > William HERD died in Oathlaw on 22 Mar 1774 age 60y 5d ( MI in Oathlaw > Chuchyard) he was 'sometime smith at Fineven 'and married Katherine GALL in > 1747. > > Our question is could he be one of the William HERD's born in Marykirk? > There are two candidates ..William chr 8 Mar 1713 son of William and > Isabel WILLOCK or WILLOX > Or William chr 15 Jun 1715 son of David HERD and Margaret ANDERSON > Does any one have either William on their tree to eliminate them from ours? > I know the birthdate from the MI is different but these things happen. > > Robin > -- > Robin and Margaret McEwen-King > Lanark Scotland > > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Is there an MI for William HERD or HIRD in Kincardineshire pre 1800? We begin to suspect that our HERD line came from Kincardineshire... William HERD died in Oathlaw on 22 Mar 1774 age 60y 5d ( MI in Oathlaw Chuchyard) he was 'sometime smith at Fineven 'and married Katherine GALL in 1747. Our question is could he be one of the William HERD's born in Marykirk? There are two candidates ..William chr 8 Mar 1713 son of William and Isabel WILLOCK or WILLOX Or William chr 15 Jun 1715 son of David HERD and Margaret ANDERSON Does any one have either William on their tree to eliminate them from ours? I know the birthdate from the MI is different but these things happen. Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

Hi, Looking for Herd/Hird/Hurd in Kincardinshire of the Mearns At Banchory-Devenick there's a John HIRD d. 1882 age 81 (#223) no William included........... Genbervie (#184) there's a John Murray, wife Christine HERD d.1938 age 86............. Kinneff & Catterline a Gilbert HERD mentioned in 'Notes' Marykirk #2 A Margaret Herd spouse to John Gleg d 1774 age 65 #112 Another Margaret Herd d. 1763 age 50 spouse Jas Strahan #112a A John Herd d 1751 age 60 - this goes on to say he married Margaret Low in 1730 and had a son David in 1732 who died 1810 I'm sorry but this is all listed in my book but for what it's worth. If you need the entire inscription on any of the above, let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <margaret@scottishwool.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] HERD or HIRD > Is there an MI for William HERD or HIRD in Kincardineshire pre 1800? > > We begin to suspect that our HERD line came from Kincardineshire... > William HERD died in Oathlaw on 22 Mar 1774 age 60y 5d ( MI in Oathlaw > Chuchyard) he was 'sometime smith at Fineven 'and married Katherine GALL > in > 1747. > > Our question is could he be one of the William HERD's born in Marykirk? > There are two candidates ..William chr 8 Mar 1713 son of William and > Isabel WILLOCK or WILLOX > Or William chr 15 Jun 1715 son of David HERD and Margaret ANDERSON > Does any one have either William on their tree to eliminate them from > ours? > I know the birthdate from the MI is different but these things happen. > > Robin > -- > Robin and Margaret McEwen-King > Lanark Scotland > > > > ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== > List Mom for SCT-KINCARDINE-L: > Diana Boothe philsbarbie1@arkansasfamilies.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Would someone please look up William METCALF(E)'s death in the Dundee death index. I have no idea when he died; he was born in the 1780s to Robert Metcalf(e) and Ann Blakey in Knaresborough, Yorkshire. As I understand, he was an editor of a newspaper in Dundee. Thank you. Margie

Brand new connection of GABRIEL to my HERD/CAIRD line, in Kincardine. David GABRIEL b 1827 Glenbervie, married Margaret HERD, 16 June 1860 St Cyrus. David's parents George GABRIEL and Mary GIBSON. I have the marriage cert. David and Margaret show on 1881 census in Aberdeen with one son also David age 17 born Aberdeen. Any angels out there? Kathleen. All my incoming and outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2004

Though I would list details of the families I am researching in Kincardine to see if anyone else is researching them. Alexander DON married Jane Anne ROSS (1871 in Brechin Angus) and had the following children, all born Fettercairn Annie Fullerton DON (1872-????) Jean Valentine DON (1874-1875) Alexander DON (1876-????) John DON (1878-1878) William DON (1879-????) Margaret DON (1880-????) Christian DON (1882-1883) Alice DON (1884-1885) James FULLERTON married Margaret CHRISTIE (1742 at Marykirk) and had the following children, all born Kincardine Joseph FULLERTON (1743-????) Elizabeth FULLERTON (1745-????) James FULLERTON (1747-1815) Katherine FULLERTON (1749-????) Margaret FULLERTON (1752-????) Helen FULLERTON (1754-????) David VALENTINE married Isobel PITCAIRN (circa 1698) and had the followinf children, all born Kincardine David VALENTINE (1699-1748) Elizabeth VALENTINE (1701-????) Jean VALENTINE (1703-????) Margaret VALENTINE (1706-????) Isobel VALENTINE (1707-????) Anne VALENTINE (1710-????) Mary VALENTINE (1713-????) Regards Graeme Simpson

Posting new connection HERD/CAIRD/BURNESS and hoping someone might connect. David HERD born 1794 St Cyrus, 1st wife Christian CAIRD died before 1847, second wife Elizabeth BURNESS, born ? abt 1798 Kincardine, died 1866 St Cyrus, parents John Burness and Jane MILNE. Nothing much on John Burness database. I already have 2 Burness connections and upmteen odd MILNE connections. Rachel MILNE, father John, spouse Alexander CROWE, born 1766 Dunnottar, died 1789. David MILNE born 1783 Fordoun, wife Ann HARRIS, one of David's sons also David, emigrated, first to Canada and later USA. Other son William born 1815 Fordoun, married Williamina FARQUHAR, 3 children born Fettercairn, Ann David and John. Kathleen. All my incoming and outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2004

Ken, The marriage certificate shows John's age as 46 (barely legible) and his parents as John Will and Clemintina Will (Watson). That would give John a birth date of circa 1827 and an age of 53 0r 54 in 1881. I can only assume that the census record is flawed. I understand that not too much credence can be placed on the precision of census ages. regards Bruce Watt Director knowledge.able Ph: (03) 9509 4800 Mob: 0403 254 873 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Coull [mailto:kcoull@shaw.ca] Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2005 1:59 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: John Will & Helen Watt Bruce, I noted your reply to Carol Ann indicating you're related to John WILL & Helen WATT. However, you also indicate that John WILL (1823 - 1891) is the brother of Mary WILL b. 15 June 1832 Bervie. I wonder if you've identified the correct John WILL? Yes, Mary WILL did have a brother John b. 26 Aug 1824 Bervie. However, the John WILL who I believe was married to Helen WATT reports his age as 48 in the 1881 Census record for 84 Barclay Street, Stonehaven -- this would make him born about 1832! Although John confesses to being 14 years older than Helen, was he really 23 years older or are we talking about two different John WILLs? Have you accessed the 1873 marriage record of John WILL & Helen WATT and determined what age John gives himself and who he identifies as his parents? Ken

Margie, Saw your post regarding Forbes, I have Forbes & Allan, not too much info on Forbes, more on Allan. Isobel Forbes married Alexander Allan, know no dates. Their daughter: Anna Allan married George Fowler 11 Oct 1789 Their daughter: Elizabeth Fowler b 1794 d 1837 m George Allen 1821 b 1787 Their children: Ann b 1824, Christina b 1826 d 1881 m James Craig 1854 (my gr grandparents) Margaret b 1828 d 1887 m George Craig 1850, Isobel b 1830 d 1830, Jane b 1832 m James Masson 1856. Do these connect with yours? Marva

Bruce, I noted your reply to Carol Ann indicating you're related to John WILL & Helen WATT. However, you also indicate that John WILL (1823 - 1891) is the brother of Mary WILL b. 15 June 1832 Bervie. I wonder if you've identified the correct John WILL? Yes, Mary WILL did have a brother John b. 26 Aug 1824 Bervie. However, the John WILL who I believe was married to Helen WATT reports his age as 48 in the 1881 Census record for 84 Barclay Street, Stonehaven -- this would make him born about 1832! Although John confesses to being 14 years older than Helen, was he really 23 years older or are we talking about two different John WILLs? Have you accessed the 1873 marriage record of John WILL & Helen WATT and determined what age John gives himself and who he identifies as his parents? Ken

Carol Ann, Like Terrance, I have connection to John Will (Mary Will's brother), 1823-1891, married Helen Watt 21/6/1873. Bruce Watt Director knowledge.able Ph: (03) 9509 4800 Mob: 0403 254 873 -----Original Message----- From: Carol Ann Mason [mailto:camason@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 12:12 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: My family name interests in Kincardine Hi, Below are the family name interests. Name Where Patterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin Paterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin Law Laurencekirk, Bervie Will Bervie Linton Bervie Candoo Bervie McRobert Bervie Grant Strahcan, Bervie Thanks Carol Ann ______________________________

Hi Margie Are your Blewis from Benholm by any chance? I was talking to a chap last week and he was telling me his ancestors were Blues from that Parish. If you give me a few details I will get in touch with him and find out if there is a connection. Regards Alex. Gray Scotland

Looking for information regarding the family of Alexander Duthie and Jean Lyall who were married on 18 Dec 1779 at Laurencekirk and had the following children; James chr. 23 Feb 1781, Laurencekirk. (Possibly the James Duthie who was my ggg grandfather and married a Jean Kessie at Fordoun on 25 May 1805) (If this is the correct person, I have some details of his descendants) Margaret chr. 4 Nov.1783, Laurencekirk. William chr. 27 Mar 1791, Fordoun I have checked all the Margaret and William Duthie deaths at GROS since 1855 till 1900 with negative results 1841 census for Fordoun and Laurencekirk checked with negative result. There is also the possibility that an Alexander chr 16 Apr 1786 Fordoun, and Jean chr. 7 Dec 1788, Fordoun, are also the children of this couple. I have still to run a check for their deaths at GROS. 1841 census for Fordoun and Laurencekirk checked with negative result. Other than James, I have no additional information regarding the children and would be interested in making contact with anyone else who is researching a branch of this family. Alex. Gray Rutherglen, Scotland.

There were 'Duthies' in the St. Cyrus Census of 1841 Ian Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Alex. Gray [mailto:gray1939@btinternet.com] Sent: January 9, 2005 8:45 AM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Duthie Ancestors Looking for information regarding the family of Alexander Duthie and Jean Lyall who were married on 18 Dec 1779 at Laurencekirk and had the following children; James chr. 23 Feb 1781, Laurencekirk. (Possibly the James Duthie who was my ggg grandfather and married a Jean Kessie at Fordoun on 25 May 1805) (If this is the correct person, I have some details of his descendants) Margaret chr. 4 Nov.1783, Laurencekirk. William chr. 27 Mar 1791, Fordoun I have checked all the Margaret and William Duthie deaths at GROS since 1855 till 1900 with negative results 1841 census for Fordoun and Laurencekirk checked with negative result. There is also the possibility that an Alexander chr 16 Apr 1786 Fordoun, and Jean chr. 7 Dec 1788, Fordoun, are also the children of this couple. I have still to run a check for their deaths at GROS. 1841 census for Fordoun and Laurencekirk checked with negative result. Other than James, I have no additional information regarding the children and would be interested in making contact with anyone else who is researching a branch of this family. Alex. Gray Rutherglen, Scotland. ==== SCT-KINCARDINE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the SCT-KINCARDINE list, send the command "unsubscribe" to SCT-KINCARDINE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or SCT-KINCARDINE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

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Hi, Below are the family name interests. Name Where Patterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin Paterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin Law Laurencekirk, Bervie Will Bervie Linton Bervie Candoo Bervie McRobert Bervie Grant Strahcan, Bervie Thanks Carol Ann

Hi. My 2GGM was Mary Will Born in Bervie on 15 June 1832 and died 13 July 1915 in Bervie. Any connection? Terrance Wheatley > Hi, > Below are the family name interests. > > Name Where > Patterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin > Paterson Laurencekirk, Bervie, Brechin > Law Laurencekirk, Bervie > Will Bervie > Linton Bervie > Candoo Bervie > McRobert Bervie > Grant Strahcan, Bervie > > Thanks > Carol Ann > >