Does anyone have connections to the family below. I would like to know about descendants - if any - of Jane Kirk MURRAY, Robert MURRAY and Robert PITHIE. Also, there could be more children in the families shown here. FIRST GENERATION 1. Janet Robertson MCLAREN, daughter of Robert MCLAREN (1780?-1864) and Catherine DEWAR (1789-1886), was born in 1810 (approx.) in Kinnoul, Perth, Scotland. She was a Seamstress. She married James MURRAY on 22 January 1831 in Scone, Perthshire, Scotland. Her second marriage was to James STEPHEN, ploughman. She died on 10 March 1882 in Stonehaven, Dunottar, Kincardine, Scotland. James MURRAY and Janet Robertson MCLAREN had the following children: +2 Catherine Dewar MURRAY (1836-1876) 3 Jane Kirk MURRAY (1839- ). Jane was born on 20 January 1839 in Dunbarney, Perthshire, Scotland. She was baptised on 21 July 1839 in Dunbarney, Perthshire, Scotland. 4 Robert MURRAY (1850- ). Robert was born on 29 January 1850 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. He was baptised on 21 April 1850 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. SECOND GENERATION 2. Catherine Dewar MURRAY was born on 23 December 1836 in Dunbarney, Perthshire, Scotland. She was baptised on 1 January 1837 in Dunbarney, Perthshire, Scotland. She married George PITHIE on 17 July 1855 in Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland. She died on 26 January 1876 in Stonehaven, Dunottar, Kincardine, Scotland. George PITHIE was the son of Robert PITHIE ( - ) and Jane RENNIE ( - ). He and Catherine Dewar MURRAY had the following children: 5 James PITHIE (1856-1856). James was born on 1 March 1856 in Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland. He died in 1856 in Kinneff & Caterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland. 6 Robert PITHIE (1858-aft1876). Robert was born on 3 May 1858 in Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland. He died after 1876. 7 Jessie Dewar Murray PITHIE (1859-1860). Jessie was born on 2 November 1859 in Kinneff & Caterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland. She died in 1860 in Kinneff & Caterline, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Happy to exchange information with others. My main interest lies in the McLaren line to which Janet Robertson McLaren belonged. Thanks and regards Sarah Galbraith

Thanks Bob. Unfortunately not my John Valentine. I'll have to try and find out where the lair records are kept. Thanks again, Doreen

Hi Sharon, Can you tell me how you gain access to 1851 census data for Kincardineshire please. Jim Murray

Could someone with the pre 1855 MI's for Kincardine please do a lookup for me. I have John Vallentine and Margaret Thow, both in their 70's, in Fettercairn in 1841. By 1851, Margaret is a widow, age 87. I can't find her death on SP, so assume she died before 1855. I would also be interested in any Thow's from Strachan. Failing that, can anyone tell me where I would need to go to find the lair records for Fettercairn. Thanking you in anticipation. Doreen Cuthbert Fife

Could some kind soul please look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. Hello Bev Here is John Coutts in Strachan. I would be interested to know if you have located his parents, there are so many Coutts in Birse! 1851 census Strachan: Living at Curran, district 3 page 5 COUTTS John Head M 44 Ag lab ABD Birse COUTTS Elizabeth wife M 35 KCD Durris COUTTS Hellen dau Un 6 scholar KCD Strachan COUTTS Margaret dau 3 KCD Strachan COUTTS Janet dau 1 KCD Strachan COUTTS John son 1 month KCD Strachan CROCERT (sic) step dau 7 scholar KCD Banchory STEWART Jane servant 14 house servant ABD Aberdeen Sharon researching GLASS EMSLIE COUTTS McKONDACH and GORDON in Aberdeenshire and Kincardineshire special interests in parish of BIRSE, and the area of the FOREST OF BIRSE

Is anyone else researchig this branch KEY 2=CHILD 3=GRANDCHILD Descendants of Margaret Duncan 1 Margaret Duncan b: Abt. 1809 d: 29 Jan 1902 in died on 29 January 1902, aged 93, at Garrol, Banchory Ternan parish. [Civil Death Register. Banchory Ternan. 1902. Record # 5] Buried Birse Churchyard. Recorded MI # 251. Note: errors in gravestone - says she died on 28 January 1902 aged 92. .. +John Coutts m: 29 Dec 1796 in Birse Aberdeen Scotland 2 elizabeth couttes b: 1810 in birse aberdeenshire d: 28 Jan 1902 in birse ... +Andrew Birse b: 16 Mar 1803 in boghead birse m: 04 Feb 1829 in birse d: 11 Sep 1871 in myreside finzean buried in Birse churchyard 3 John Birse b: 1832 in BIRSE .... +Elizabeth Mitchell b: 1836 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 James Birse b: 01 Jan 1830 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE .... +Frances Ross b: Bef. 20 May 1832 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE m: 01 Jun 1861 3 Elizabeth Birse b: Bef. 14 Apr 1831 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Ann Birse b: Abt. 22 Aug 1839 d: 24 Apr 1908 .... +John Smith b: 1839 in Banchory accordibg to 1881 census m: 25 Nov 1870 in Birse Aberdeen Scotland 3 Andrew Birse b: Bef. 24 Sep 1834 .... +Isabella Malcolm b: 17 Nov 1838 in Woodend birse aberdeen m: 26 Dec 1873 d: 31 Mar 1908 in Banchory kincardine s 3 Margaret Birse b: Bef. 09 May 1836 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE .... +Alexander Middleton m: 28 Nov 1862 3 David Birse b: Bef. 16 Nov 1837 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Anne Birse b: Bef. 22 Aug 1839 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Elspet Birse b: Bef. 16 Nov 1841 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Francis Birse b: Bef. 16 Jan 1844 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Isabella Birse b: Bef. 09 Jun 1846 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIREd 3 Janet Birse b: Bef. 09 Feb 1849 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Hugh Birse b: Bef. 27 Jan 1851 in BIRSE ABERDEENSHIRE 3 Barbara Birse b: Bef. 27 Jul 1853 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS irene m cunningham

Bev, This looks like your Coutts family in the 1881 Census, still living in Strachan. Regards Cathy Mossside Cottage, Strachan, Kincardine, Scotland FHL Film 0203471 GRO Ref vOLUME 268 EnumDist 3 Page 4 John Coutts, Head Crofter 4 Acres Mar. Age 73 Male Birthplace Birse Aberdeen Scotland Elizabeth Stewart ,Wife Mar. Age 64 Female Birthplace Duris, Kincardine, Scotland James Copland, Gd Son, Scholar Age 10 Male Birthplace Strachan, Kincardine John Henry, Gd Son Age 5 Male Birthplace Strachan, Kincardine William Findlay, Gd Son Age 2 Male Birthplace Strachan, Kincardine Elizabeth Duncan, Gd Daur Age 2 Female Birthplace Aberdeen Aberdeen > > Bev, > > Would you happen to know where and when your John Coutts died. > > The online Family search site has this couple married 1846 in Strachan, also > gives children as Margaret born 1847 Jane 1849 John 1851 Mary 1854 all in > Strachan > > Regards Cathy

on 6/10/05 4:37 AM, Gresercher@aol.com at Gresercher@aol.com wrote: > > > > Bev, > > Would you happen to know where and when your John Coutts died. > > The online Family search site has this couple married 1846 in Strachan, also > gives children as Margaret born 1847 Jane 1849 John 1851 Mary 1854 all in > Strachan > > Regards Cathy > > > > In a message dated 09/06/2005 12:55:44 GMT Standard Time, > louphillips@sympatico.ca writes: > > Could some kind soul please look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife > Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where > they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. > > Bev Phillips > Markham Ontario Canada > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Hi Cathy I think this is my family. Bev

Bev, Would you happen to know where and when your John Coutts died. The online Family search site has this couple married 1846 in Strachan, also gives children as Margaret born 1847 Jane 1849 John 1851 Mary 1854 all in Strachan Regards Cathy In a message dated 09/06/2005 12:55:44 GMT Standard Time, louphillips@sympatico.ca writes: Could some kind soul please look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. Bev Phillips Markham Ontario Canada

on 6/9/05 12:47 PM, Mary Sykes at marysykes@flash.net wrote: Yes Birse (sorry for the typo) is in Scotland. It is in Aberdeenshire. He would probably have been born about 1808. Thanks Bev Phillips Markham Ontario Canada > Brise is in Scotland? Do you have his birth year? > > louis phillips <louphillips@sympatico.ca> wrote:Could some kind soul please > look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife > Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where > they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. > > Bev Phillips > Markham Ontario Canada > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hey, Have you tried this website? It's free and has quite a bit of information for Aberdeenshire. http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "louis phillips" <louphillips@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1851 census Strachan > on 6/9/05 12:47 PM, Mary Sykes at marysykes@flash.net wrote: > > > Yes Birse (sorry for the typo) is in Scotland. It is in Aberdeenshire. > He > would probably have been born about 1808. > > Thanks > > Bev Phillips > Markham Ontario Canada > > >> Brise is in Scotland? Do you have his birth year? >> >> louis phillips <louphillips@sympatico.ca> wrote:Could some kind soul >> please >> look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife >> Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and >> where >> they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. >> >> Bev Phillips >> Markham Ontario Canada >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Brise is in Scotland? Do you have his birth year? louis phillips <louphillips@sympatico.ca> wrote:Could some kind soul please look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. Bev Phillips Markham Ontario Canada ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Could some kind soul please look for John Coutts b. Brise and his wife Elizabeth Stewart. I would like to know who all is in the family and where they were living in 1851. Thanks in advance. Bev Phillips Markham Ontario Canada

Hi Richard Thank you for your prompt reply. This is definitely my family and is very helpful. Thanks again Elaine

James McFarlan M Age 40 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Born Ireland Helen Wife age 35 Born kincardineshire Jane age 11 James age 10 Ann age 7 Mary age 3 Samuel age 3 Month All Born kincardineshire http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl This will take you to the Census Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1851 lookup in Johnshaven > Can any kind soul look up James McFarlane with wife Helen and daughter > Jane. They were there in the parish of Benholm in 1841. > > With thanks. > > Jim Murray

Can any kind soul look up James McFarlane with wife Helen and daughter Jane. They were there in the parish of Benholm in 1841. With thanks. Jim Murray

Hope this Helps Walter Reid Married Margaret Dinnie 14 June 1850 LaurenceKirk Children Elizabeth Born 20 Jun 1855 LaurenceKirk Catherine Ritchie Born 24 Jul 1857 Laurence Not related Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Nicoll" <elaine.nicoll@lineone.net> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1851 census Laurencekirk > Hi List > > Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Laurencekirk that could do > a look up for me for the following family, please? > > Walter REID aged abt 39 (b 1812 Laurencekirk) > Margaret REID or DINNIE aged abt 29 (b abt 1822 Birse) > Jane REID aged abt 7/8 (b abt 1843 Auchenblae) > William REID aged abt 3/4 (b 1847 Fordoun) > > There may be other children. I am most interested if the Walter REID that > married Margaret DINNIE in 1850 was the same Walter that was the father of > my ggg-grandmother, Jane REID (her mother was Helen Ann COUPAR) > > Thanks in advance. > Elaine > Aberdeenshire

Hope this helps LaurenceKirk 1851 Census Walk mill Walter Reid Head Marr Age 32 Agr Labourer LaurenceKirk Kincardineshire Margaret Ried Wife Marr Age 29 Birse Aberdeenshire Alexander F Reid Son Age 5 Mos LaurenceKirk Kincardineshire Information supplied by Diana Newton Wood to SCT - Kincardine-L@rootsweb.com 16 Feb 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Nicoll" <elaine.nicoll@lineone.net> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] 1851 census Laurencekirk > Hi List > > Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Laurencekirk that could do > a look up for me for the following family, please? > > Walter REID aged abt 39 (b 1812 Laurencekirk) > Margaret REID or DINNIE aged abt 29 (b abt 1822 Birse) > Jane REID aged abt 7/8 (b abt 1843 Auchenblae) > William REID aged abt 3/4 (b 1847 Fordoun) > > There may be other children. I am most interested if the Walter REID that > married Margaret DINNIE in 1850 was the same Walter that was the father of > my ggg-grandmother, Jane REID (her mother was Helen Ann COUPAR) > > Thanks in advance. > Elaine > Aberdeenshire > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi List Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Laurencekirk that could do a look up for me for the following family, please? Walter REID aged abt 39 (b 1812 Laurencekirk) Margaret REID or DINNIE aged abt 29 (b abt 1822 Birse) Jane REID aged abt 7/8 (b abt 1843 Auchenblae) William REID aged abt 3/4 (b 1847 Fordoun) There may be other children. I am most interested if the Walter REID that married Margaret DINNIE in 1850 was the same Walter that was the father of my ggg-grandmother, Jane REID (her mother was Helen Ann COUPAR) Thanks in advance. Elaine Aberdeenshire

I am looking for information on Margaret Denovan , she was born in Kincardine , Kincardineshire according to the 1901 census in and around 1857.Her father was Robert Denovan and Mary Ann Nelson or Neilson . She was married to Robert Campbell Mackie in 1902 in Partick Glasgow. The rest of her brothers and sisters were either born in Stirling or Glasgow