Ken I am looking into the mariage of Mary Ann Duncan d/o Christina Bell and John Duncan(?) from Hollybank Banchory Ternan married 1878.12.13 to Isaac Wright. They seem to have had a daughter Margarate Milne Wright born 1891 Banchory Ternan. Can you explain the Milne midname.( could the name Margarate come from Margaret Hutcheson d/o Margarate Cameron?) I may have several questions if you could please e-mail me at the following address: louise.lariviere@sympatico.ca Looking forward to share information with you. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Coull" <kcoull@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] James Robb > Kathy, > > Yes James Milne ROBB was born 28 June 1864 Arbuthnott parish to David ROBB > & Ann ROSS (m. 26 June 1848 Garvock parish). I wonder if someone in the > USA perhaps misheard "William" for "Milne"? > > Here he is in the 1881 Census in Laurencekirk: > > 1881 Census: Dwelling: 79 Johnston St > Census Place: Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 263 EnumDist 4 > Page 6 > William DAVIDSON M 56 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Head Occ: Horse Breaker > Jane DAVIDSON M 59 F Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Wife > >>James ROBB U 16 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland<< > Rel: Serv Occ: Groom > Joseph SINCLAIR U 22 M Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Visitor Occ: Drapers Assistant > Charles MARTIN U 21 M Logie Pert, Forfar, Scotland > Rel: Lodger Occ: Drapers Assistant > > I have additional ancestry for both David ROBB and Ann ROSS if you contact > me off line. > > Ken > >> >> From: >> "Helen Miller" <hesmlr@earthlink.net> >> >> >> >> Kathy, >> >> On IGI there was a James MILNE Robb born 28 June 1864 - not 1865 in >> Arbuthnott, Kcd. Could this be your James? If so, his parents were >> David Robb and Ann Ross. >> >> Helen >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Supplee" >> <tarotkathy@cybortronics.com> >> >>> I am looking for information on James William Robb born June 28,1865 in >>> kincardenshie Scotland He was a silver and a gold miner in Colorado. I >>> believe he came to America in 1891, age 26. In the US census it states >>> that >>> he came to the US in 1885. >>> >>> Kathy Supplee >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Kathy, Yes James Milne ROBB was born 28 June 1864 Arbuthnott parish to David ROBB & Ann ROSS (m. 26 June 1848 Garvock parish). I wonder if someone in the USA perhaps misheard "William" for "Milne"? Here he is in the 1881 Census in Laurencekirk: 1881 Census: Dwelling: 79 Johnston St Census Place: Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 263 EnumDist 4 Page 6 William DAVIDSON M 56 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Horse Breaker Jane DAVIDSON M 59 F Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Wife >>James ROBB U 16 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland<< Rel: Serv Occ: Groom Joseph SINCLAIR U 22 M Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Drapers Assistant Charles MARTIN U 21 M Logie Pert, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Drapers Assistant I have additional ancestry for both David ROBB and Ann ROSS if you contact me off line. Ken > > From: > "Helen Miller" <hesmlr@earthlink.net> > > > > Kathy, > > On IGI there was a James MILNE Robb born 28 June 1864 - not 1865 in > Arbuthnott, Kcd. Could this be your James? If so, his parents were > David Robb and Ann Ross. > > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Supplee" > <tarotkathy@cybortronics.com> > >> I am looking for information on James William Robb born June 28,1865 in >> kincardenshie Scotland He was a silver and a gold miner in Colorado. I >> believe he came to America in 1891, age 26. In the US census it >> states that >> he came to the US in 1885. >> >> Kathy Supplee >

Thanks for the post Bill and to everyone else that has responded. This is the James Murray I am interested in. Descendants of James Murray --------------------------- 1-James Murray b. Abt 1791 +Ann Clark b. Abt 1791 |--2-George Murray c. 21 May 1815, Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland |--2-David Murray b. 17 May 1817, (Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland) |--2-Charles Murray b. 21 Aug 1819, (Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland), d. Abt | 1863 | +Jane Montgomery b. 5 Jul 1829, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland | |--3-Margaret Murray b. 10 Apr 1853, Montrose, Angus, Scotland (my ancestor) Piece: SCT1841/253 Place: Benholm-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Benholm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 6 Page: 4 Address: Johnshaven Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MURRAY James M 50 Carrier Kincardineshire (born abt 1791) MURRAY Ann F 50 Kincardineshire (unmarried name thought to be Ann CLARK born abt 1791) MURRAY James M 24 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY Charles M 20 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY John M 16 Ag Lab Kincardineshire Gordon McLeod

Hi, You will find details of this family in my STOTT family web page http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~wlonie/ Any corrections/additions would be appreciated. Regards Bill > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:17:23 -0600 > From: Gordon McLeod <gordon@shieldaig.com> > To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Benholm Ancestors > MURRAY, MOIR, READ > > My ancestor James Murray might be the one aged 90 in > 1881 census as he would > have been born in about 1791. I am interested in > living relatives so if > anyone has connection to this family, has a picture > of Leppie Cottage, or > knows when this James Murray died that would help. > The parent names would > be on the death certificate. > > Gordon McLeod > - -------------------------------- > 1881 Census > Dwelling: Bridge Of Leppie Cottage > Census Place: Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 263 > EnumDist 5 Page 9 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > James MURRAY W 90 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland > Rel: Head Handicap: Imbecile > Occ: Retired Labourer > Jane MOIR U 35 F Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland > Rel: G Dau > Occ: General Domestic Serv > James Murray READ 11 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine, > Scotland > Rel: G G Son > Occ: Scholar > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

My ancestor James Murray might be the one aged 90 in 1881 census as he would have been born in about 1791. I am interested in living relatives so if anyone has connection to this family, has a picture of Leppie Cottage, or knows when this James Murray died that would help. The parent names would be on the death certificate. Gordon McLeod ---------------------------------- 1881 Census Dwelling: Bridge Of Leppie Cottage Census Place: Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 263 EnumDist 5 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James MURRAY W 90 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Handicap: Imbecile Occ: Retired Labourer Jane MOIR U 35 F Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: G Dau Occ: General Domestic Serv James Murray READ 11 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: G G Son Occ: Scholar -----Original Message----- From: Gordon McLeod [mailto:gordon@shieldaig.com] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:52 PM To: 'SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Benholm Ancestors I am also looking for information on a Johnshaven family directly connected to my own. Piece: SCT1841/253 Place: Benholm-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Benholm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 6 Page: 4 Address: Johnshaven Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MURRAY James M 50 Carrier Kincardineshire (born abt 1791) MURRAY Ann F 50 Kincardineshire (unmarried name thought to be Ann CLARK born abt 1791) MURRAY James M 24 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY Charles M 20 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY John M 16 Ag Lab Kincardineshire Gordon McLeod -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:41 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Benholm Ancestors Hi Everyone, I'm looking for information on James Duncan who was born in Johnshaven circa 1806. To my knowledge he was unmarried but had two children with Eliabeth Torie/Mather. They had two children Edwin Duncan and Robert Duncan. I have information which I would be happy to exchange. Others that I am directly related to from Kincardine are William Edward & Agnes Duncan as well as David Watt and Ann Mitchell. Grant Cargill (Arbroath, Scotland) ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have changed my e-mail address from plhpatti@juno.com to: plhpatti@ij.net Thank you for noting the change. Pat Corell Clearwater, FL, USA

Sorry sorry, That new Email address that I tried to send you was wrong ! It REALLY should be: bval1@pacific.net.au This one should now work. My apologies. Bruce Valentine.

Hello, This is to advise my new Email address. It has been changed to: bval@dsl.pacific.net.au Regards, Bruce.

Hi there, Is there anyone on the list with Maver (originally Mavor) connections from Banchory? I have one link - an Alexander Mavor born in Banchory Devenick however the date recorded on our family bible is 14/04/1965. I have found listed an Alexander Mavor born there on 16/04/1865 but have no way of verifying if this is the same person (very close DOB though - any ideas on whether this is likely to be the same person?). Cheers Lisa

Kathy, On IGI there was a James MILNE Robb born 28 June 1864 - not 1865 in Arbuthnott, Kcd. Could this be your James? If so, his parents were David Robb and Ann Ross. If you do a little more reseach then perhaps you will know where to go and by all means, check out the cemeteries for their wealth of information - often not found otherwise. Have a great trip - wish I could join you! Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Supplee" <tarotkathy@cybortronics.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] james robb >I am looking for information on James William Robb born June 28,1865 in > kincardenshie Scotland He was a silver and a gold miner in Colorado. I > believe he came to America in 1891, age 26. In the US census it states > that > he came to the US in 1885. > > I am going to Scotland in August and will be visiting Kincardinshire. > Does > any > one have any recommendations as to the best place to look for info on > James? > > Thank you > Kathy Supplee > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I am looking for information on James William Robb born June 28,1865 in kincardenshie Scotland He was a silver and a gold miner in Colorado. I believe he came to America in 1891, age 26. In the US census it states that he came to the US in 1885. I am going to Scotland in August and will be visiting Kincardinshire. Does any one have any recommendations as to the best place to look for info on James? Thank you Kathy Supplee

Morning Leslie I would like to be included on your list of volunteers to transcribe info for the 1851 census. It will probably not finished till fall. Ian Johnston 1488 County Road #8, Toledo, On K0E 1Y0 613-275-2342 -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Bousbaine [mailto:lbousbaine@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: May 31, 2005 8:57 AM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] FreeCEN Kincardineshire 1851 Following on from the fantastic progress at 1841, I am pleased to announce that 1851 parishes in Kincardineshire are now available for transcription. A web page has been set up at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scotnet/FreeCEN/KCD/KCD1851.htm To volunteer all you need is access to a computer with a spreadsheet program plus either software to view jpg images or access to a microfiche or microfilm reader. Census images will be supplied either on microfilm or as jpg images on CD and should be transcribed to a given spreadsheet template. You do not have to be based in the UK to participate in this project. For more information about becoming a volunteer, please contact me at lbousbaine@yahoo.co.uk. Lesley Bousbaine FreeCEN county coordinator, Kincardineshire and Lanarkshire http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scotnet/FreeCEN/KCD/ --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Jim, Yes, that Edward is my great-great grandfather Edwin. For some reason the 1841 census doesn't have James Duncan in the same household but he was with Elizabeth, Edward/Edwin and a group of her children from her marriage to James Mather (although not Helen). But I've seen the census document and know that they were all in the same household. Yes, James Mather and Elizabeth Torrie married in St Cyrus before making the short journey to Johnshaven to live/work there. As for James Mather being deceased by 1841, I have no way of knowing. He wasn't listed as deceased on his son John's marriage cert. in the 1860's but none of the certificates are totally reliable. I have no plans at the moment to head north to Johnshaven (I'm in Arbroath) but have a great trip! Regards, Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 02 July 2005 07:35 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Benholm Ancestors Hello again, Grant, how are you? Are you aware of the 1841 census which shows Elizabeth Mather in Johnshaven with a son Edward Duncan aged 1? I have recently discovered (through a helpful approach suggested by Gordon McLeod) the five children born to Elizabeth Torrie and James Mather according to the IGI. Interesting to see that after the first child was born in St Cyrus in 1824, the family had moved to Johnshaven by 1827. Also interesting to realise that James Mather was aged 50 to 63 when the children were born. And he was not on the 1841 census, presumably deceased. We are planning to visit Johnshaven in September. Will we see you there? Cheers Jim Murray ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello again, Grant, how are you? Are you aware of the 1841 census which shows Elizabeth Mather in Johnshaven with a son Edward Duncan aged 1? I have recently discovered (through a helpful approach suggested by Gordon McLeod) the five children born to Elizabeth Torrie and James Mather according to the IGI. Interesting to see that after the first child was born in St Cyrus in 1824, the family had moved to Johnshaven by 1827. Also interesting to realise that James Mather was aged 50 to 63 when the children were born. And he was not on the 1841 census, presumably deceased. We are planning to visit Johnshaven in September. Will we see you there? Cheers Jim Murray

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for information on James Duncan who was born in Johnshaven circa 1806. To my knowledge he was unmarried but had two children with Eliabeth Torie/Mather. They had two children Edwin Duncan and Robert Duncan. I have information which I would be happy to exchange. Others that I am directly related to from Kincardine are William Edward & Agnes Duncan as well as David Watt and Ann Mitchell. Grant Cargill (Arbroath, Scotland)

I am also looking for information on a Johnshaven family directly connected to my own. Piece: SCT1841/253 Place: Benholm-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Benholm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 6 Page: 4 Address: Johnshaven Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MURRAY James M 50 Carrier Kincardineshire (born abt 1791) MURRAY Ann F 50 Kincardineshire (unmarried name thought to be Ann CLARK born abt 1791) MURRAY James M 24 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY Charles M 20 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY John M 16 Ag Lab Kincardineshire Gordon McLeod -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:41 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Benholm Ancestors Hi Everyone, I'm looking for information on James Duncan who was born in Johnshaven circa 1806. To my knowledge he was unmarried but had two children with Eliabeth Torie/Mather. They had two children Edwin Duncan and Robert Duncan. I have information which I would be happy to exchange. Others that I am directly related to from Kincardine are William Edward & Agnes Duncan as well as David Watt and Ann Mitchell. Grant Cargill (Arbroath, Scotland) ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: BIRSE / RIDDELL/ ROSS/ JOHNSTON (E) / ANDERSON Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:23:08 -0400 From: Moe and Betty Hemsley <elmoe.hemsley@sympatico.ca> Organization: Home Office To: ANGUS-L <ANGUS-L@rootsweb.com>, KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Rejoined to search for any further information on the following families: BIRSE, William c 1698 - Arbuthnot, Kincardine or any of his descendants RIDDELL, Janet c 1771 - marriage to James Birse in Strachan ROSS, Mary c 1804 - marriage to William Birse in Strachan JOHNSTON (E), Jane (Jean) - c 1839 - marriage to Alexander Birse in Kirkden ANDERSON, Jane (Jean) Soutar - c 1868 - marriage to William Law Birse Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Hello Steve I have a copy of some of the Fettercarin stones, it is a book that I have from a Family History week end, If you would like a look up then send has much information has you can, I do not know who has the full Records for Fettercairn, may be the Kincardine Council Richard

Richard, Could you please tell me could u please tell me over which years are the Fettercairn Lair records kept and where are they (who has them that I can contact). Steve Nethercote Melbourne, Australia *** Oak Tree: A nut that stood its ground *** -----Original Message----- From: richard laurence [mailto:r.laurence@ntlworld.com] Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:50 AM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Valentine - Fettercairn / Doreen Valentine lair records Fettercarin

If anyone can help with parents of James Murray and Ann Clark or other connections I would much appreciated it. Gordon McLeod ---------------- 1. James Murray-[4546] was born about 1791. James married Ann Clark-[4547] [MRIN:1638] on 21 Apr 1811 in Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland. Children from this marriage were: 2 M i. George Murray-[4550] was christened on 21 May 1815 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. 3 M ii. David Murray-[4553] was born on 17 May 1817 and was christened on 11 Jun 1817 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. + 4 M iii. Charles Murray-[3383] was born on 21 Aug 1819, was christened on 6 Oct 1819 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland, and died about 1863, about age 44. 5 M iv. John Arnott Murray-[4552] was born on 11 Jan 1822 and was christened on 4 Feb 1822 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. 6 F v. Betty Murray-[4551] was born on 9 Apr 1824 and was christened on 4 May 1824 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. 7 M vi. Alexander Murray-[4554] was born on 5 Jun 1826 and was christened on 17 Jun 1826 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Second Generation (Children) 4. Charles Murray-[3383] (James 1) was born on 21 Aug 1819, was christened on 6 Oct 1819 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland, and died about 1863, about age 44. General Notes: Piece: SCT1841/253 Place: Benholm-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Benholm Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 6 Page: 4 Address: Johnshaven Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MURRAY James M 50 Carrier Kincardineshire MURRAY Ann F 50 Kincardineshire MURRAY James M 24 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY Charles M 20 Ag Lab Kincardineshire MURRAY John M 16 Ag Lab Kincardineshire Charles married Jane Montgomery-[3384] [MRIN:1236] on 21 Feb 1847 in Montrose, Angus.