I just noted the name Torrie and thought I'd add I have a Catherine Hendry married Robert Torrie 29.4.1828 in Banchory Devenick parish (Torry on IGI), the gravestone in Belhelvie I have on my website - http://members.ozemail.com.au/~casliber/hendry_belhelvie.html cheers Cas -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 8:42 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Jim, The year was 1854 for that one! Perhaps with checking of some old census' we can find out which James Mather that was and if indeed it is Elizabeth Torrie's other half! Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 18 August 2005 10:06 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Well done Grant. What was the year James Mather died please? Jim Murray ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Jim, The year was 1854 for that one! Perhaps with checking of some old census' we can find out which James Mather that was and if indeed it is Elizabeth Torrie's other half! Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 18 August 2005 10:06 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Well done Grant. What was the year James Mather died please? Jim Murray ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Dear all, My descent is from David SINCLAIR who married Elisabeth CAIRD on 17 August 1833 at Glenbervie, Kincardine. One of their sons, George SINCLAIR, born 9 August 1835, Glenbervie, married Mary DUNBAR on 2 February 1861 at Glenbervie. Their daughter Mary SINCLAIR, born 15 July 1870 at Drumlishie is my great-grandmother. She married Henry Hermann SCHMIDT at the German Church in Leith on 25 September 1889. I would be delighted to hear of anyone who has the above in their family. Also if anyone can point me in the direction to find on-line details about Glenbervie, and Drumlishie. Regards, Yvonne Purdy

Well done Grant. What was the year James Mather died please? Jim Murray

I've recently been doing some research through old Montrose newspapers and have the following deaths pre-1855 from Johnshaven and one from St Cyrus. Hope this information is of use to someone. From 1853-4 I got the following deaths in Johnshaven: Mr Alexander Williamson Shipmaster & Owner Died 3/2/1853 Mis Betsy Weir Died 14/10/1853 In 70th Year Alexander Jackson Jnr Died 25/4/1854 36th Year Jane Thompson Died 30/9/1854 64 yrs wife of David McIntosh who fought at Siege of Badajoz Isabella Anderson Died 16/10/1854 97th Year wife of George Marnie (Merchant) St Cyrus Died at Rosefield, St Cyrus on the 23d instant, James Mather Esq, in the sixty-ninth year of his age. Grant Cargill

Colin this is a bit of what I have on CROW, HARRIS is my direct line. I don not have a Caroline or a DUNCAN marrying a CROW. I have a page on Rootsweb for the Crow line if it helps with the overall picture. http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=crowharris I hope you may find something of use. Kathleen. 1. Alexander CROW. Born in 1751 in Fordoun, Kincardine. Alexander was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine on 21 Apr 1751. Alexander died on 26 Dec 1816, he was 65. Pre 1855 MI Fordoun 10a 36. 1825 Alex CRAW, subtenant on Muttonhole died 26.12 1816 age 65, wife Rachel MILNE died 16.7..1789 age 23 da Elizabeth 9.4.1789 age 11 months. 2nd wife Jean HERRIS died 4.11.1824 age 63, their children son David 10.7.1807 age 7 years, William 21.6.1812 age 18, Robert 16.11.1819 age 16, first son Alex. 25.4.1840 age 47 (first dau Jean 18.7.1840 age 18, third daughter Elizabeth 4.8.1840 age 5 years) On 13 Jun 1787 when Alexander was 36, he first married Rachel MILNE, in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Born in 1766. Rachel was baptized in Dunnottar, Kinc. on 25 May 1766. Rachel died on 16 Jul 1789, she was 23. They had one child: i. Elizabeth. Born in May 1788 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Elizabeth died on 9 Apr 1789 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. On 17 Mar 1792 when Alexander was 41, he second married Jean(Jane) HARRIS, daughter of William HARRIS (HERROS) & Janet GUTHRIE, in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Born abt Mar 1762 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Jean(Jane) was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 11 Mar 1762. Jean(Jane) died in West Cairnbeg, Fordoun in Nov 1824, she was 62. The Death Certificate of her son, Alexander Crow, lists her given name as JANE. They had the following children: 2 i. James (1793-) 3 ii. Jean (1794-~1887) iii. William. Born in 1795 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. William was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 16 Nov 1795. William died in Fordoun, Kincardine on 21 Jun 1812, he was 17. 4 iv. Alexander (~1797-1880) v. David. Born in 1800 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. David was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 11 Aug 1800. David died in Fordoun, Kincardine on 10 Jul 1807, he was 7. Buried on 13 Jul 1807 in West Cairnbeg, Fordoun. 5 vi. John (1802-<1881) vii. Robert. Born in 1803 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Robert was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 12 Jul 1803. Robert died in Fordoun, Kincardine on 16 Nov 1819, he was 16. viii. Ann. Born in 1805 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Ann was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 21 Sep 1805. On 3 Oct 1823 when Ann was 18, she married James WOOD, in Glenbervie, Kincardine. Second Generation ---------------------------------------- 2. James CROW. Born in 1793. James was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 8 May 1793. On 17 Aug 1822 when James was 29, he married Jean VALENTINE, daughter of James VALENTINE & Ann NILSON, in Fordoun, Kincardienshire, Scotland. Jean was baptized in Fettercairn, Kincardine? on 30 May 1792. Was on the census for Carnbeg, Fordoun ,Kincardineshire, Scotland in 1841. Piece: SCT1841/259 Place: Fordoun-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Fordoun Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 4 Page: 9 Address: Carnbeg Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CROW Jean F 40 Crofter Kincardineshire CROW Ann F 10 Kincardineshire CROW William M 8 Kincardineshire CROW Mary F 2 Kincardineshire They had the following children: i. Jean (1823-1840) ii. Alexander (1824-) iii. James (1826-) iv. David (1828-) v. Annie (1830-) vi. William (1833-) vii. Eliza (1835-1840) viii. Mary (1838-) 3. Jean CROW. Born in 1794 in Fordoun, Kincardine. Jean was baptized in 28 Nov 1794 on 28 Nov 1794. Was on the census for Auchcarnie, Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland in 1841. Was on the census for Yonderfield Croft, Fordoun in 1881. Jean died abt 1887, she was 93. 1841 census Fordoun Enum 5 page 2 Auchcarnie 64a 1 Valentine Jas 40 m Shoe m. Y 64a 2 Valentine Charles 8 m Y 64a 3 Valentine Ann 6 f Y 64a 4 Valentine Jean 3 f Y 64a 5 Valentine Jean 45 f Y On 16 May 1827 when Jean was 33, she married James VALENTINE, son of James VALENTINE & Margaret TIVENDALE, in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Born abt 1800 in Fordoun, Kincardine. At the age of 1, James was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 1 Jan 1801. Was on the census for Auchcarnie, Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland in 1841. Was on the census for Yonderfield Croft, Fordoun in 1881. 1881census Dwelling: Yonderfield Croft Census Place: Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 259 EnumDist 6 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James VALENTINE M 81 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Shoemaker Jean VALENTINE M 87 F Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Shoemakers Wife They had the following children: i. Alexander (1828-) ii. James (1829-) iii. David (1831-) iv. Charles (1833-) v. Ann (1835-) vi. Jean (1837-) 4. Alexander CROW. Born abt 1797 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. Alexander was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 20 Dec 1797. Alexander died in "Conangalt", Gisborne Victoria Australia on 22 Oct 1880, he was 83. Occupation: blacksmith. 1841 census Piece: SCT1841/312 Place: Montrose-Angus Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: Montrose Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 12 Page: 8 Address: Baltic Street Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CROW Alex M 40 Blacksmith Outside Census County (1841) CROW Jane F 40 Outside Census County (1841) CROW Alex M 12 Angus CROW Francis M 10 Angus CROW James M 5 Angus CROW Jane F 5 Angus CROW Isabell F 5 Angus CROW Ann F 2 Angus CROW Jessie F 8m Angus LOW James M 45 Blacksmith Angus Alex emmigrated to New Zealand in 1862 after marriage to Ann Cochrane. On 11 Jun 1826 when Alexander was 29, he married Jean Jane KID, daughter of Charles KIDD & Ann ANDERSON, in Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, Scotland. Born on 9 May 1800 in Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, Scotland. Jean Jane died in Gisborne Victoria Australia on 4 Jun 1891, she was 91. They had the following children: i. David (1827-<1841) ii. Alexander (1828-1922) iii. Francis(Frank) (1830-) iv. Jane (1833-1911) v. James (~1835-) vi. Isabella (~1837-) vii. Ann (~1840-1909) viii. Jessie (1840-1922) ix. John (1844-) x. David 5. John CROW. Born in 1802 in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland. John was baptized in Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland on 31 Mar 1802. John died bef 1881, he was 79. Was on the census for Auchcarnie, Fordoun, Scotland in 1841. Occupation: Crofter 1841, Tailor, later a farmer at Fordoun(1881 census). Piece: SCT1841/259 Place: Fordoun-Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Fordoun Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 5 Page: 2 Address: Auchcarnie Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CROW John M 35 Crofter Kincardineshire CROW Margt F 35 Kincardineshire CROW Ann F 9 Kincardineshire CROW John M 7 Kincardineshire CROW Eliz F 6 Kincardineshire CROW James M 4 Kincardineshire CROW Alexr M 2 Kincardineshire On 10 Nov 1827 when John was 25, he married Margaret BALFOUR, daughter of John BALFOUR & Jane SMITH, in Fordoun, Kincardine. Born abt 1805 in Fettercairn, Kincardine. Was on the census for Auchcarnie, Fordoun, Scotland in 1841. Was on the census for Townhead, Fettercairn, Scotland in 1881. 1881 census Dwelling: Townhead Census Place: Fettercairn, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203469 GRO Ref Volume 257 EnumDist 1 Page 18 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Margaret BALFOUR OR CROWE W 76 F Fettercairn, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Crofters Widow Jane CROWE U 36 F Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Laundress General They had the following children: i. Robert (1830-) ii. Ann (1832-) iii. John (1834-) iv. James (1837-) v. Alexander (1839-) vi. David (1842-) vii. Jane (1844-) viii. William (1847-) ix. Elizabeth Garland (1835-)

That should have been James Crow Valentine, not john ----- Original Message ----- From: <DoreenGen@aol.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fw: Crow, Valentine. > There are lots of Valentines in Kincardine. Do you have any specific > people > you are interested in? > > Doreen Cuthbert > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

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Hullo Doreen, My most sincere apologies for not getting back to you earlier but I have been away. I have a Robert Valentine married to a Caroline Crow. They had one child that I know of, who was named John Crow Valentine. He apparently came out to New Zealand at some stage but have not been able to trace him. Caroline Crow was the daughter of John Crow and his wife mary, nee Duncan. They also had a son named John William Crow. Do any of those names fit in with anything you may have ? Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DoreenGen@aol.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fw: Crow, Valentine. > There are lots of Valentines in Kincardine. Do you have any specific > people > you are interested in? > > Doreen Cuthbert > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hullo Bernadine, My most sincere apologies for not getting back to you earlier but I have been away. The names that you have mentioned do not ring a bell as at this point in time, but I will keep it all in mind. Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernadine Nisbet" <bernie@thenisbets.wanadoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fw: Crow, Valentine. > There are a lot of people in St Abbs berwickshire with the surname Crowe > .St > Abbs is a fishing Com and years ago some of the men fished at Gourdon and > Johnshaven. Regards Bernadine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rooks.haven" <rooks.haven@xtra.co.nz> > To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 5:22 AM > Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fw: Crow, Valentine. > > >> Subject: Crow, Valentine. >> >> >> > Posting my interest in both the Crow and Valentine surnames. >> > Around Laurencekirk and Marykirk areas. >> >> I would like to hear from anyone who is also interested in those names. >> > >> > Colin Crowe. >> > New Zealand. >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I have only just started tracing my family tree and have found the birth of George Edward on 28th September 1808 @ Dunnottar in Kincardine. I believe he married Elizabeth McDonald @ Laurencekirk in 1841. If anyone has any links to either George or Elizabeth your help would be most appreciated. Regards, Peter

G'day Colin, I too am interested in the Valentine name around Laurencekirk and Marykirk. My start point has been James Valentine and Ann Craig married in 1769. They had at least one son, James Valentine, (sometimes it seems spelt according to Scottish custom with a double 'll' ie Vallentine, to distinguish the son from Father-I am advised). I would appreciate any info on 'the line' before 1769 if that is possible. I will provide descendent info as I have thus far in about 3 weeks. The Australian connection from this line as I have it is William Hunter Valentine, born in Marykirk 1846 who came to Melbourne on the steamship 'Pathan' in 1884. He was a steam tractor driver known as 'Wully' in the Mildura area where he worked for McLaren Bros, contracted by Chaffey Bros. to clear land for development. The Maternal line on my 'line' from Ann Craig on were: Margaret Tevendale; Isobel Hunter; Ann Calder; Ruth Hilda Jellet. There is also a Bruce Valentine in NZ I believe that I have been meaning to get in touch with. More later, Cheers, Al Valentine At 16:22 1/08/05 +1200, you wrote: >Subject: Crow, Valentine. > > >>Posting my interest in both the Crow and Valentine surnames. Around >>Laurencekirk and Marykirk areas. > >I would like to hear from anyone who is also interested in those names. >>Colin Crowe. >>New Zealand. > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.10 - Release Date: 6/07/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.10.5 - Release Date: 9/08/05

Colin, I spent a long time chasing the 'wrong' family of Valentines in Kincardine, but decided to track down as much info as I could to see if I could link my 'wrong' line with my 'correct' line. As a result I now have quite a lot of information to hand. I can't find any link with your family, but I can give you some information which may be of help. This is the info I have concerning your family. Descendants of Robert Valentine 1 Robert Valentine d: Bef. 1860 .. +Ann Beattie m: July 24, 1819 in Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland d: Bef. 1867 ........ 2 Robert Valentine b: June 15, 1820 d: October 15, 1867 in East Drum (?) Kincardine ............ +Caroline Mary Crowe b: 1840 m: June 21, 1860 in Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland d: 1891 in Logie Pert ................... 3 James Valentine b: January 26, 1863 in Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland ................... 3 John Crowe Valentine b: January 6, 1865 in Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland ................... 3 Mary Elizabeth Valentine b: February 5, 1867 in Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland I also checked the 1881 census for the family, and found the following entry. North Water Bridge Census Place: Logie Pert, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203495 GRO Ref Volume 304 EnumDist 1 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James LYALL M 71 M Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Inspector Of Poor & Treasurer School Board Mary LYALL M 61 F Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife Mary E. VALLENTINE 14 F Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Grand Dau Occ: Scholar Charlotte DUNCAN U 56 F Laurenckirk, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Visitor Occ: Cook Domestic Servant By 1881 Robert Valentine had died, I don't know where Caroline was, but Mary was living with her grandmother. Mary Duncan married James Lyall in Laurencekirk in 1852 (IGI), so I am quite sure that Mary Lyall is Caroline's mother. I would also make a guess, and suggest that Charlotte Duncan is Mary's sister. If I do manage to make a connection with your family and mine I will let you know. Happy Hunting Doreen Cuthbert Fife

Hi Kathleen, Here's what I have for David LOW married to Jean EWEN 12 Jan 1832 Arbuthnott parish: 1881 Census: Dwelling: Agr Lab Cottage Farrochie Census Place: Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203469 GRO Ref Volume 258-1 EnumDist 5 Page 11 David LOW M 71 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Agl Lab Jane E. LOW M 73 F Arbuthnot, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife From this etnry, I believe that David LOW was chr. 2 Apr 1809 Fordoun parish to William LOW & Isobel RENNIE and that Jean EWEN was chr. 24 Jul 1804 Arbuthnott parish to William EWEN (no mother recorded). I have no further ancestry for either the LOW or EWEN lines. However, I believe Jean had a brother John chr. 1 Oct 1802 Arbuthnott and David had two sisters and a brother: Margaret chr. 1807, Jean born 1816, and William born 1821. Ken

Kathleen In your message regarding the marriage cert. One of the witnesses is Mary Jane Low - do you have connections to this person? Mary NZ

Hello Mary, The LOW link is through the grandparents of the marriage I previously posted yesterday. This is the entry for Helen Low CAIRD,s grandparents. On the 20th day of June 1857 at Upper Toucks, marriage after banns was solemnized between us according to the forms of the Established Church, signed John Caird age 21, address Glithna, Agricultural labourer, bachelor, father Charles Caird, mason, Arbuthnott, mother Jean Watson, signed Hellen Low age 22, address Upper Toucks, house servant, spinster, father David Low, labourer, mother Jane Ewing, Upper Toucks, signed Alex Silver, Minister of Dunnottar, witnesses James Wallace and James Glegg. The Charles CAIRD above is my 3xgreat grandfather. Unfortuneately I have been unable to find David LOW and Helen Ewing or Ewen in the 1841 census or anything much on the LOW family at all. Kathleen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Cubitt" To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:02 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Caird, Masson > Kathleen > In your message regarding the marriage cert. One of the witnesses is Mary > Jane Low - do you have connections to this person? > > Mary > NZ > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I know there are quite a few Leiper and Masson researchers around and just wondering if any body can find any connection in my latest acquision fom Scotlandspeople site. Caird is my direct line, although this particular family is a branch. Marriage 1904 29 January at 30 David Street, Stonehaven, after banns according to the Forms of the Established Church of Scotland William Leiper, age 21, wool mill worker, bachelor, signed, 16 Arduthie Street, Stonehaven, father James Leiper, Fisherman (deceased) mother Christina Leiper ms Masson (deceased) to Helen Low Caird age 21, domestic servant, spinster, signed, 30 David Street, Stonehaven, father George Scott Caird, carter, mother Jane Caird ms Gilbert, signed Douglas Gordon Barron, Minister of Dunnottar, witnesses James Sherit Gellatly, Mary Jane Low. Kathleen.

A David MURRAY was christened 12 Jan 1762 at Arbuthnott, father John. A John MURRAY was christened 7 Jan 1776 at Arbuthnott, father John. A David MURRAY married Catherine EDWARD 13 Sep 1788 at Foudoun. A John Murray married Agnes BRECHIN 3 Aug 1806 at Garvock. Am quite sure that a son of this David lived next to a son of this John from 1841 to 1861 in Arbuthnott. Does anyone have information about the David and John being brothers or not. Of course it could just be coincidence. Thanks Bill ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hello Colin, I don't know if we have had contact before or not. I have a James Crow who married Jean Valentine 1822 Fordoun, also James Valentine who married Jean Crow 1827 Fordoun. I also have a New Zealand connection-Alexander Crow married 1 Jean Kid (Kydd) 2 Ann Cochrane. I got the information on this connection a few years back from a new cousin contact. If you think there may be a connection please do get in touch, I have quite a lot more info. Kathleen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rooks.haven" > >> Posting my interest in both the Crow and Valentine surnames. Around >> Laurencekirk and Marykirk areas. > > I would like to hear from anyone who is also interested in those names. >> >> Colin Crowe. >> New Zealand.

Subject: Crow, Valentine. > Posting my interest in both the Crow and Valentine surnames. > Around Laurencekirk and Marykirk areas. I would like to hear from anyone who is also interested in those names. > > Colin Crowe. > New Zealand.