----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Androsoff To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Murrarys looking for Hey Listers, Before I throw good money away, to find ancestors I thought I would try this instead in case someone may be able to help me out. I'm looking for help in locating information on this family. Generation #1: Head : George Murray Deceased 1930 in Glensaugh Fettercairn Wife: Elizabeth Joe Hutcheon married in June 13, 1864 Children: James Murray born July 25, 1875 Easterside Dunnottar Scotland married: Annie McHardy William Murray Annie Watt: married James Walker Generation #2: James Murray (1875)'s kid's James Murray 1906 George Murray 1908 William 1909 Isabella 1913 If anyone can help please email me at jandrosoff@sasktel.net, I'm a little stumped to begin with Jeff Androsoff

Lieutenant-Colonel Arthur George FERGUSON, born 22 Jun 1862; m. Janet Norah BAIRD and was Inspector of Constabulatory for Scotland; d. 14 Feb 1935, survived by widow, three sons and a daughter, said to be of Cuckfield House, Cuckfield, Sussex and Norton House, Kincardine O'Neil, Aberdeenshire * Angus Arthur FERGUSON m. 12 Feb 1929 Nowell MACLAGAN * Francis Alexander FERGUSON m. 11 Apr 1928 Joan HARRIS * Nigel FERGUSON, Norton House, Kincardine, O'Neil, Aberdeenshire * Sandy FERGUSON * Nancy FERGUSON Looking for descendants of any of the above. -- Cheers, Colin Ferguson

I'm interested in: Miln(e), in the Ruthven, Meigle,Airlie Area. Ritchie, in the Kirriemuir, Roscobie, Carmyllie, Collieston & Redford Village, St Vigeans & Glamis area. Ogilvy in the Charleston & Glamis area. Gray, in the Forfar, Kirriemuir, Glen Isla, Lintrathen Area. Also Castle Grant at Grantown on Spey. Barrie in the Forfar, Kirriemuir, Glen Isla, Lintrathen Area. Bell in the Hillside, Logie-Pert,Montrose, Strachan & Birse In Kincardineshire Area. Petrie In the St Vigeans, Monifieth & Barry Angus Area. Addison in the St Vigeans, Monifieth & Barry Angus Area. Brown in the Kirriemuir, Roscobie, Carmyllie, Collieston & Redford Village, Inverkeillour & Glamis area. Robertson, Reid & McLaren in the Caputh,Logieraite & Little Dunkeld Area. Ritchie Family My Grandmother was Elizabeth Welsh Ritchie DOB 14/12/1897, Roscobie Angus. Died Coupar-Angus 24/11/1990. Her Father was Hendry Ritchie DOB 3/2/1861 Henry Ritchie was a Farmer. His Birth was unregistered, & he had a problem in later years getting a pension as a result. Brought up by his Granny with his Brother. After Granny Died, brought up by Auntie Sally (Mrs Stirling) at Collieston. Douglastown & Holding at Plans of Thornton Glamis. Before he went to the Wreeths. Died Strathmartin Gardyne Street Letham Angus 24/4/1946. Buried Forfar Cemetry. His Wife was Jane Brown DOB 9/5/1865. Jane Brown was a maid at Glamis. Died Strathmartin Gardyne Street Letham Angus 26/5/1944. Buried Forfar Cemetry. Her Parents were William Brown (b. 7/11/1836) & Margaret (Reid) from Redford Village Carmyllie Area. Parents of William Brown were David Ormond Brown (b. 12/9/1807) & Helen (Muggins). Parents of David Ormond Brown were William Brown (b. 20/9/1783) & Helen (Ormond). Parents of William Brown were Robert Brown (b. Pre-1780) & Elspeth (Buchart). ******************** Bell Family My Great Grand Father is David Bell Railwayman. Born 26/8/1863. Logie Pert. David Bell was killed in a Railway Accident near Hillside on the 17/07/1907. He Married Jessie Ann Petrie 20/4/1870 at Collieston. GGGF William Bell (b. 6/06/1822) & Anne (Baird) from Logie-Pert Montrose Area. GGGGF David Bell (b.12/4/1779) & Elizabeth (Ross) b. 8 Dec 1789 Birse Area of Kincardineshire. GGGGGF David Bell b. Strachan Kincardineshire. Who Married Christian Robertson. Petrie Family My Great-Grand Mother was Jessie Petrie. Born: 1/6/1870. Place: Angus. Her Father was David Petrie. Who Married Jessie Addison 24/11/1867, at Barry Angus. They had 5 Children. Jessie Petrie. DOB 1/6/1970 Elizabeth Petrie.Married Alec Brown. Agnes Mary Petrie. DOB 27/3/1974 Married William Kydd Wilson 5/12/1902. Jean Petrie. Married James Gillespie. David Petrie. Married Ellen (Surname unknown). She married David Bell Railwayman 20/4/1870 at Collieston.. Born c.1863. Killed in a Railway Accident near Hillside on the 17/07/1907. *************** Milne Family My Great Grand Father is Andrew Coupar Milne. Born c.1843. Glamis Angus. Died Newtyle Feb 1919. He was a Post Master at Meikleour Post Office Perthshire. He Married (24/11/1871), Catherine Reid Robertson dob 11/11/1846 Little Dunkeld. Died Meikleour 7/11/1902. His Parents were John Milne (b. 1799) & Margaret (Colville) from Ruthven, Airlie & Alyth Area. Parents of John Milne were James Miln(e) (b.4/9/1757) & Elizabeth (Rattray) (b.6/3/1756) from the Meigle & Ruthven Area. *************** Gray Family GGGGGGF William Gray. He Married Jean Duffas. (Banff 1/4/1726). GGGGGF James Gray b. ABT Sep 1742 Ordiquhill Banffshire. Sister of James Gray- Margaret b. ABT Sep 1742 Ordiquhill Banffshire. James Gray married Jean Faich. GGGGF William Gray b.19 Apr 1782 Cromdale Parish Inverness Married Elizabeth Grant before 1802. Children Ann Margaret Gray b. 28 Jan 1803 Milton of Castle Grant Morayshire. James Gray b. 15 Feb 1805 Milton of Castle Grant Morayshire. Margaret Gray b. 19 May 1808 Milton of Castle Grant Morayshire. d. 1808. Married 2nd Wife Janet McIntosh in Rothes. Children Jane (Jean) Gray b.11 Dec 1811 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Francis William Grant Gray b. 12/8/1813 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Margaret Gray b.20/8/1818. Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Lewis Alexander Grant Gray b. 1819 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Charles Gray b. 26/5/1820 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Janet Gray b. 24 Mar 1822 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. d. 1823 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. Mary Gray b. 1824 Invernessshire. John Gray b. 1826 Forres Elginshire. Isabella Gray b 19/8/1827 Cromdale Parish Invernesshire. GGGF William Gray. Master Shoemaker b.1816 Kirriemuir Forfarshire. d. 15/5/1868 Roods Kirriemuir Forfarshire. He Married Ann Mann in Forfar 24/5/1840. GGF Francis William Grant Gray. DOB 1853. Christened 27/1/1854. Died Ruthven 25/8/1946. He Married Jane Barrie in Kirriemuir in 1885.DOB 1856 Forfar. Died Ruthven Angus 22/3/1922. They had 5 Children: Margaret Gray Married Murray Robertson. Prov R Island USA. William Gray Died in USA. George Gray Killed WW1. David Gray Grocer Glasgow. Francis Gray DOB 9/6/1893 Kinnaird Lintrathen Forfar Angus. Died 22/11/1988 Elmslea Coupar Angus. Married Glamis 31/12/1919 to Elizabeth Welsh Ritchie (DOB 14/12/1897), Died 24/11/1990 Elmslea Coupar Angus. ************************* Ogilvy Family My late Granny Jean Ogilvy Milne got the Ogilvy, because she was brought up by her Uncle John R Milne & his wife Jane Robertson (Ogilvy). So there is no real direct connection to the Ogilvy Family, but it is important. John Robertson Milne DOB 8/6/1872 Blairgowrie. Occupation Saddler & Wheelwright at North Street Newtyle. Wife Jane Robertson Ogilvy DOB 4/4/1870 Glamis Forfarshire Angus. Daughters Annie Bell Milne DOB 9/10/1901 Newtyle Angus. Jessie Lesley Milne DOB 3/10/1903 Newtyle Angus. Catherine Milne DOB 1900 died 4/2/1902. Ogilvy Family (Glamis). William Ogilvy DOB 22/9/1838 House: 72 Charleston Glamis Buried Glamis Cemerty died 6/2/1910. Margaret Robertson DOB 1834 Buried Glamis Cemerty died 16/7/1898. Sons George Ogilvy DOB 19/5/1868. died 13/4/1950. Farmer at Upper Hardwick Glenogilvy Glamis. Jim Strathearn Ogilvy DOB 30/7/1874 died 25/3/1950. Stonemason Charlston Glamis. Joseph Ogilvy DOB 23/11/1872. died 1/1/1948. Butler Glamis Castle. Robert Cooper Ogilvy DOB 9/8/1877. died 4/10/1948. Sam Chisholm Ogilvy Details unknown. I can also trace a direct line from William Ogilvy. William Ogilvy DOB 22/9/1838, 6/2/1910. Father - David Ogilvy Mother - Catherine Robertson. Grand Parents - Thomas Ogilvy & Margaret Wallace. Great Grand Parents - Thomas Ogilvy & Christian Crook.

I'm looking for information on the following: David Bell who Married Christian Robertson. Marriage 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincardineshire. And .. 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland . Son: David Bell b. 12 Apr 1779 Strachan. d. 2 Jan 1857 Lerrachmore Strachan Kincardineshire. Married Elizabeth Ross b. 8 Dec 1789 Birse, Aberdeen. Children Andrew Bell 19/1/1820 Strachan Kincardineshire. David Bell b.10 Mar 1816 Strachan Kincardineshire. d. 27 Feb 1887 Upper Arbeadie Banchory. William Bell b.6 Jun 1822 Strachan Kincardineshire. Married Ann Baird b.17 Sep 1823 Montrose Angus. at 8 Dec 1843 at Logie Pert Angus. Children 1/ Anges b.11 Nov 1843 Logie Pert Angus. Married Mr Crockett had 1 Child. Later Married Frank Phipps. 2/ Mary c.11 Jan 1846 Logie Pert Angus. 3/ Ann b.1848 Logie Pert Angus. Married George Daker b. 1844 Edzel. Child Jane-Ann Daker b.31 May 1867. Married William Pert Milne b. 7 Apr 1871 Usan. 4/ Isobell c.15 Apr 1849 Logie Pert Angus. Married John Beattie 5/ Jane c. 11 Apr 1851 Logie Pert Angus. 6/ William c. 5 Dec 1852 Logie Pert Angus. 7/ Elizabeth c.8 Oct 1854 Logie Pert Angus. 8/ Margaret b.1858 Logie Pert Angus. 9/ Alexander b.11 Nov 1843 Logie Pert Angus. 10/ David b.29 Aug 1863 Logie Pert Angus. d. 7/7/1907 Dubton Railway Accident. Married Jessie Petrie b. 1 Jun 1870 St Vigeans Angus at 15 Dec 1893 St Vigeans. 11 / Ann ?? b.13 Nov 1866 Logie Pert Angus. Married and had 2 Children, one was born in 1900 & one was called Nora (1905). The 1866 Ann was mentioned by my Grandad's late sister. Her named was Jessie Ann Bell.. named after Ann 1866. The 1848 Ann was listed in various Census, strange why 2 Ann's..?? Can anyone help. Alistair Bell.

Greetings listers: I note Mr. Bell is looking for family connections who were born in Strachan, Kincardineshire, I regret not being able to give him any assistance, but would very much appreciate knowing exactly where in Kincardineshire Strachan is located. I too have an ancestor who was born there, and would appreciate knowing where it is located at present, or if it is no longer a place name. Thank you for any assistance Shirley McCormick Nova Scotia

Jim ,Thank you for your response -I cant connect up with your family though In a m essage dated Sat, 29 Oct 2005 1:45:59 AM AEDT, "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> writes: >Hello Alf, > >I don't think my Milnes are connected to yours: > >Jessie Milne b 1837 Glenbervie >                  m 1862 Johnshaven to James McFarlane >                  d  1922 Johnshaven > >Robert Milne (Jessie's Father) >                   ? b 1783 Johnshaven > >Charlotte Lyall (Jessie's mother) >                     b 1797 Fordoun > >Charles Milne & Elizabeth Craig (Robert's parents) >                     m 1776 Johnshaven > >Are you in touch with David Milne - david468@ozemail.com.au - who is the >expert when it comes to Milnes? > >Cheers >Jim Murray > > > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hello Alf, I don't think my Milnes are connected to yours: Jessie Milne b 1837 Glenbervie m 1862 Johnshaven to James McFarlane d 1922 Johnshaven Robert Milne (Jessie's Father) ? b 1783 Johnshaven Charlotte Lyall (Jessie's mother) b 1797 Fordoun Charles Milne & Elizabeth Craig (Robert's parents) m 1776 Johnshaven Are you in touch with David Milne - david468@ozemail.com.au - who is the expert when it comes to Milnes? Cheers Jim Murray

Hello listers I generally use the Angus site but I hope to make connections here. I am looking for connections to the following people and families. The original couple is as follows: THOMAS MILNE: Born circa 1784 Brechin. The L.D.S. record him as Thomas Mill(IGI) Originally a farm labourer -although in 1815 (christening records)he is recorded as a timber yard worker He was married 3/11/1809 at Brechin to a Jean Deas (Jane is shown on her sons death certificate) JANE DEAS : Born circa 1788 . Their is no Deas in the IGI about this date.However there is a Jane Deis b. 1786 at Brechin.She is also mentioned as Deason Interestingly there is a Jane Deas(widow) recorded at Dun in the 1861 census and as a number of Jane's family worked there about this time then she may have reverted to her maiden name . .She is not shown in the 1871 census .There is no mention of her husband.Unfortunately I cant find records on Thomas Milne. Their children were all born in Brechin. Mary Milne b. 18/8/1810 Mary Milne b. 16/12 1811 James Milne b. 19/6/1815 Betty Milne b. 13/2/1815 John Milne b. 7/5/1816 John Milne married Jane (Jean) FORBES b. circa 1816at Farnell.He was a farm servant at his marriage but died on the railways at Arbroath His son was james Milne who was the goalkeeper for Arbroath in the famous Bon Accord win in 1886 Marriage 26/5/139 at Kincardine St Cyrus Children:Christina Milne b.1842,DUN Mary Milne b. 1845, Aberlemno Jean Milne b. Aberlemno Susan Milne b. 1851 Montrose Ann Milne b. 1854 Montrose James Milne b. 1855 Montrose Jemima Milne b. 1860 Kirkden. In the 1851 census records there is a Charles Milne, Nephew staying with them from Dun It would be great to get connections as I have bits and pieces Kind Regards Alf Milne

Looking for info on Jane Paterson b about 1811 Fettercain Kincardineshire, married to James Calder b about 1807 Montrose Forfarshire. They would have got married about 1827, children as follows:- James Calder b abt 1829 Montrose. Helen Paterson Calder b abt 1831 Edinburgh. William Calder b abt 1838 Glasgow. George Calder b abt 1844 Glasgow. David Calder b abt 1847 Glasgow. I think that James Calder's parents are George Calder and Ann Wanton, can anyone tell me if this is so. Does anyone else link to this family?. Alan

Does anyone have these people amongst their research? I am especially interested in Revd. Chas MORRISON and his first wife Jane GREEN. Revd. Chas. MORRISON born 31 May 1828, died 19 December 1890 Laurencekirk, Kincardine, Scotland, aged 62 years and 6 months. He is mentioned on the WEBSTER/DICKSON tombstone. Married (1) 1861 to Jane GREEN. Jane died 6 Dec.1879. (There are children to this marriage, names unknown as yet) Married (2) aft.1881 to Margaret DICKSON. Margaret born 1 March 1834, died 5 September 1927, aged 93 years and 6 months, as a Widow of Aberdeenshire. Any assistance much appreciated, Patricia Dickson. New Zealand.

Hello to the list, Just thought I'd post a couple of interests from the area which have been mentioned before (eg by Lisa) but I have not been able to connect. I have John MITCHELL and Agnes MAVOR marrying on 11 Jan 1794 and then proceeding to have 7 children including Margaret (chr 21 Apr 1804) in Drumoak. Their other children were: Jean chr 7 Nov 1794 George chr 14 Apr 1796 James chr 3 Apr 1798 Robert chr 21 May 1800 Christian chr 27 Jun 1802 Joseph chr 3 Apr 1807 (he went to the USA) There was an Agnes MAVOR chr in Banchory-Devenick on 19 Apr 1766, child of Andrew and Jean LEIPER but this would make Agnes 50 when she had her last child to John MITCHELL. Also none of the 4 sons was called Andrew. I cannot see another Agnes in the county but I am well aware this does not mean there wasn't one!!! Does anyone else connect to this family or can shed any light on this? Regards, Cathy in coastal Queensland, Australia

Hullo Al, Sorry I cannot be of any help in regards to your search. All the best. Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Valentine" <scribe@tsn.cc> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fw: Crow, Valentine. > G'day Colin, > > I too am interested in the Valentine name around Laurencekirk and > Marykirk. My start point has been James Valentine and Ann Craig married > in 1769. They had at least one son, James Valentine, (sometimes it seems > spelt according to Scottish custom with a double 'll' ie Vallentine, to > distinguish the son from Father-I am advised). I would appreciate any > info on 'the line' before 1769 if that is possible. I will provide > descendent info as I have thus far in about 3 weeks. The Australian > connection from this line as I have it is William Hunter Valentine, born > in Marykirk 1846 who came to Melbourne on the steamship 'Pathan' in 1884. > He was a steam tractor driver known as 'Wully' in the Mildura area where > he worked for McLaren Bros, contracted by Chaffey Bros. to clear land for > development. The Maternal line on my 'line' from Ann Craig on were: > Margaret Tevendale; Isobel Hunter; Ann Calder; Ruth Hilda Jellet. > > There is also a Bruce Valentine in NZ I believe that I have been meaning > to get in touch with. > > More later, > > Cheers, > > Al Valentine > > > > > > At 16:22 1/08/05 +1200, you wrote: >>Subject: Crow, Valentine. >> >> >>>Posting my interest in both the Crow and Valentine surnames. Around >>>Laurencekirk and Marykirk areas. >> >>I would like to hear from anyone who is also interested in those names. >>>Colin Crowe. >>>New Zealand. >> >> >>============================== >>Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>New content added every business day. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.10 - Release Date: 6/07/05 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.10.5 - Release Date: 9/08/05 > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Jim, I agree that this is probably not our James Mather, although he could be pretty much anywhere if he and Elizabeth split up. I'm not sure where Elizabeth was living in 1851 but I'm pretty sure she is listed in Johnshaven in 1861 and of course died there in 1868. btw I just noticed James and Elizabeth's eldest child (Helen) working as a servant in a houshold in Benholm thanks to freecen. I had previously wondered if she was living with her father somewhere but apparently not and she was already put out to work. We will keep trying! Grant -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 22 August 2005 19:37 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Hi Grant, Again I imagine you have the children's births from the IGI showing James and Elizabeth were in St Cyrus in 1824 but moved to Johnshaven by 1827. Jim ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Grant, Again I imagine you have the children's births from the IGI showing James and Elizabeth were in St Cyrus in 1824 but moved to Johnshaven by 1827. Jim

Hi Grant, As you probably know there is a James Mather on the 1841 census in St Cyrus. He is probably the same one whose obituary appeared in the Montrose paper because he has both a wife (Jane) and a servant! Not our man I guess. There is also a James Mather in Edzell in 1841 working as an agric. labourer who seems to be on his own. Keep digging. Yours Jim

Hi Grant, As I expect you know there is a James Mather in St Cyrus in 1841. But he is married to a Jane and has a servant - not our man I guess - but probably the same one whose obituary appeared in the Mont

Hi Tony, Sorry to say that the Montrose papers are only available at Montrose library on microfiche. I mainly only took down the Johnshaven deaths as that was my main area of interest so cannot say whether your David was mentioned or not. Most of the death's reported are from well-to-do families. So I never found what I was looking for but thought I'd note some names down that were mentioned pre-1855 in the hopes that someone could use them. I've no plans to return to Montrose library in the near future but will print out your message and put it in my genealogy folder and hopefully get this done next time I am there if still required. However, most likely there wouldn't be much additional information to what you have if. Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: Tony Smith [mailto:deewhytony@bigpond.com] Sent: 20 August 2005 05:04 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Hi Grant Greetings from Sydney, Australia. I have an ancestor David Smith who died at Luthermuir in Marykirk on 15 August 1853 (from Army Pension record). He also fought at the siege of Badajoz, having joined the Royal Horse Artillery Drivers in 1804. I suspect that his death too would be mentioned in a Montrose newspaper. Are these newspapers available for researching or do you have to go to Montrose? Alternately, can anyone do a look up? Regards Tony Smith deewhytony@bigpond.com From: "Grant Cargill" <Gcargill@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:39 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine > I've recently been doing some research through old Montrose newspapers and > have the following deaths pre-1855 from Johnshaven and one from St Cyrus. > Hope this information is of use to someone. > > Jane Thompson Died 30/9/1854 64 yrs wife of David McIntosh who fought at > Siege of Badajoz > > Grant Cargill ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Grant Greetings from Sydney, Australia. I have an ancestor David Smith who died at Luthermuir in Marykirk on 15 August 1853 (from Army Pension record). He also fought at the siege of Badajoz, having joined the Royal Horse Artillery Drivers in 1804. I suspect that his death too would be mentioned in a Montrose newspaper. Are these newspapers available for researching or do you have to go to Montrose? Alternately, can anyone do a look up? Regards Tony Smith deewhytony@bigpond.com From: "Grant Cargill" <Gcargill@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:39 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine > I've recently been doing some research through old Montrose newspapers and > have the following deaths pre-1855 from Johnshaven and one from St Cyrus. > Hope this information is of use to someone. > > Jane Thompson Died 30/9/1854 64 yrs wife of David McIntosh who fought at > Siege of Badajoz > > Grant Cargill

Ain't it the way. In Belhelvie only Catherine is buried, so Robert may be buried in Kincardine somewhere... -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2005 1:18 AM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Cas, Possible relation, I trace my Torrie's back to James Torry/Torrie who married Helen Edward sometime around 1795 or so. It's just too far back for me to be certain either way! Grant -----Original Message----- From: Cas and LISA Liber (& family) [mailto:casliber@ozemail.com.au] Sent: 18 August 2005 21:31 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine I just noted the name Torrie and thought I'd add I have a Catherine Hendry married Robert Torrie 29.4.1828 in Banchory Devenick parish (Torry on IGI), the gravestone in Belhelvie I have on my website - http://members.ozemail.com.au/~casliber/hendry_belhelvie.html cheers Cas -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 8:42 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Jim, The year was 1854 for that one! Perhaps with checking of some old census' we can find out which James Mather that was and if indeed it is Elizabeth Torrie's other half! Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 18 August 2005 10:06 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Well done Grant. What was the year James Mather died please? Jim Murray ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Cas, Possible relation, I trace my Torrie's back to James Torry/Torrie who married Helen Edward sometime around 1795 or so. It's just too far back for me to be certain either way! Grant -----Original Message----- From: Cas and LISA Liber (& family) [mailto:casliber@ozemail.com.au] Sent: 18 August 2005 21:31 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine I just noted the name Torrie and thought I'd add I have a Catherine Hendry married Robert Torrie 29.4.1828 in Banchory Devenick parish (Torry on IGI), the gravestone in Belhelvie I have on my website - http://members.ozemail.com.au/~casliber/hendry_belhelvie.html cheers Cas -----Original Message----- From: Grant Cargill [mailto:Gcargill@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 8:42 PM To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Jim, The year was 1854 for that one! Perhaps with checking of some old census' we can find out which James Mather that was and if indeed it is Elizabeth Torrie's other half! Grant Cargill -----Original Message----- From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Sent: 18 August 2005 10:06 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Pre 1855 Death's in Kincardine Well done Grant. What was the year James Mather died please? Jim Murray ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429