Hello George, The ISBN for Flitting the Flakes is 1 85752 008 4 and I think I got my copy from the ANESFHS, so you might check the online publications list. Best wishes, Doug Nicol Norman D. Nicol, Ph.D. Professional Genealogist/Family Historian Specializing in NE Pennsylvania, England, esp. Cornwall, and Scotland

Hello Thanks to all who responded to the above enquiry. Thanks to Betty for info on the KYDD family of "WHITERIGGS" FORDOUN. They sound interesting. Agriculture was clearly the central occupation of the area. There may have been such a large number of workers on the farm there at the time of the 1841 census as it took place during the harvest period when as many workers as possible were needed. Many harvest workers were temporary, coming from different areas and even other countries (such as Ireland) to earn some extra money. "She ran some sort of business in this little township, and not very successfully, as her will of June 1838 shows book debts owing to her of 92 pounds fourteen shillings and ninepence... ..which were never paid..... amongst the list of debtors there is the name of David JOLLY who was in debt to her for 14 shillings and threepence halfpenny...Laurencekirk is close by to Fordoun...." That's a lot of money! £92 in 1838 - I'd be interested to know what the largest amount owing was and who by. It would be interesting if it were the same David JOLLY. Thanks for mentioning this. I shall investigate this further. David, though, lived in Arbuthnott, not Fordoun. His son James moved to Fordoun to run a farm there as his older brother John had taken over David's old farm in Arbuthnott in the 1850s. I was interested that you have a notice of the listings of burials at Fordoun Churchyard. Would you be able to tell me where I might find a copy of these? [The Jolly listed there may be related, but I think he us probably an Irish Jolly - there are many over there too]. Thanks to Janet who told me about her Sherret/and variations in Arbuthnott. Thanks to Diana. I'm glad you visited Fordoun. I have relatives who visited there too, but all they said was that it was 'small'. If you have anything to add to that, I'd be happy to here from you. Obviously any information on buildings that would have been there in the 19th century such as churches, pubs, stores etc would be of interest. Thanks to Jim Murray. "Charlotte Lyall b 1797. Her parents John Lyall and Isobell Ross married there in 1791": I have Charlotte MITCHELL, whose sister Margaret Mitchell was married to an Alexander LYALL. They had 2 children (that I know of) James and Margaret B. Lyall. I think Margaret Mitchell was born around 1812-20 and she was from Kineff. I didn't know that Lewis Grassic Gibbon's novels were set in the area. I shall seek them out. Best wishes, Emma Jolly. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Hello Emma, I have a family connection with Fordoun, My Kydd family lived there for some time. Samuel Kydd was the farmer at "Whiteriggs" Fordoun, and in the 1841 census is living there with his family, employing 2 family servants and 6 Agricultural workers with their families.. Samuel Kydd died in 1843 . and his family moved out from "Whiteriggs" His widow Isobel Anderson moved into Allardyce Castle where her son John Kydd ran a farm of 280 acres, she died in 1860 age 95. A daughter of Samuel and Isobel moved to Laurencekirk, presumably when her husband, Charles Bayne died in Dundee in the 1820's.. She ran some sort of business in this little township, and not very successfully, as her will of June 1838 shows book debts owing to her of 92 pounds fourteen shillings and ninepence... ..which were never paid..... amongst the list of debtors there is the name of David JOLLY who was in debt to her for 14 shillings and threepence halfpenny...... Laurencekirk is close by to Fordoun.... I notice in the listings of burials at Fordoun Churchyard. number 150...."A memorial by Mrs. Buchan 24.9.1892 79 in memory of husband Wm Buchan "mert here" 4.12.1834 age 46 son Wm12.8.1841 1 yr, Robt. 8.11.1847 8 y, John died Glasgow 30.3.1875. 32, Jane 19.4.1887 40, (widow of JAS JOLLY int at Carlow Ireland) s Jas "mert" 3.2.1920 79 (w Susan Buchan 28.11.1937 85). I hope the above information is of interest. Best wishes to you and all members of this list. Betty In a very hot Adelaide, South Australia (where we had 40 degrees today) ----- Original Message ----- From: Emma Jolly <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fordoun, Arbuthnott, Kineff > Hello Listers, > > I would like to introduce myself to the list. > > I am pleased that there are many connections to Fordoun as it is such a small place. > > My ancestors lived there (Fordoun) at the time of the 1861 census. > > James JOLLY and wife Charlotte MITCHELL ran a farm. > > Their son, William JOLLY was a blacksmith. > > The JOLLY family come from Arbuthnott and the MITCHELLs from Kineff. > > If anyone has any connections with these families or has any information on the surnames or places, I would be very pleased to hear from you. > > Best wishes to all, > > Emma Jolly. > >

Yes I have, - that group is quiet - and yet I've not shared in quite the same way. Amber knows of me and I thought perhaps that was enough. You've allowed me to think not. Thanks Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard laurence" <r.laurence@ntlworld.com> > Hello all > > I have a Sherret line from George Sherret & Isobel Wright , Daughter > Margaret Sherret Married John Birse 22 Aug 1835 Glenbervie, Their son George > Birse Married Mary Laurence 18 June 1865 at Damhead Fordoun. > > Have you been on the Sherret Sherret-L@rootsweb.com > > Richard >

Hello all I have a Sherret line from George Sherret & Isobel Wright , Daughter Margaret Sherret Married John Birse 22 Aug 1835 Glenbervie, Their son George Birse Married Mary Laurence 18 June 1865 at Damhead Fordoun. Have you been on the Sherret Sherret-L@rootsweb.com Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET >I have a line of SHERET folk from Arbuthnot commencing with James Sherret >b. abt 1766 who was father to George Sherrett b. 16 Oct. 1789 who married >Isobel Wright baptised 1 April 1789; they married on 1 July 1810. I >cannot relate this line to my Sheret folk who married into my maternal >family, except that some of them were included in my Grandmother's hand >written notes because she and two of her sisters were sent to live with one >of them ca 1900. There has to be a cousin relationship with mine, and it >is a brick wall of mine that just will not topple. > > Four of these Sherretts left Kincardineshire ca 1844 and travelled south > to Herefordshire where they took up 800 acres of farming land. > Coincidentally, the Sherret who married into my maternal line was born in > Sillyflatt Farm, still a working farm today in Glenbervie; they just have > to be related. I have extended both lines and validated them with the > 1881 census with some interest, and keep chipping away at finding > something. > > Does anyone recognise it? > > > Janet

I have a line of SHERET folk from Arbuthnot commencing with James Sherret b. abt 1766 who was father to George Sherrett b. 16 Oct. 1789 who married Isobel Wright baptised 1 April 1789; they married on 1 July 1810. I cannot relate this line to my Sheret folk who married into my maternal family, except that some of them were included in my Grandmother's hand written notes because she and two of her sisters were sent to live with one of them ca 1900. There has to be a cousin relationship with mine, and it is a brick wall of mine that just will not topple. Four of these Sherretts left Kincardineshire ca 1844 and travelled south to Herefordshire where they took up 800 acres of farming land. Coincidentally, the Sherret who married into my maternal line was born in Sillyflatt Farm, still a working farm today in Glenbervie; they just have to be related. I have extended both lines and validated them with the 1881 census with some interest, and keep chipping away at finding something. Does anyone recognise it? Janet

No obvious connection, Janet, but it may emerge at some future stage. Yours Jim Murray

I have a George Christie b 3 Feb 1834 married on 30 May 1866 Elizabeth Sheret b 26 Feb 1833 George Christie's Parents: David Christie & Jean Thom or Thaw 1831 Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > Hello Emma and Janet, > > I am also very interested in Fordoun and visited there last September. > > My ancestors with connections to Fordoun are: > > David Murray who married Elizabeth Alexander in 1783 and then Catherine > Edward in 1788. > His son James Murray b 1789. He married Jean Christie in Garvock in 1815 > but they had two sons, George and Wiiliam in Fordoun and a daughter, Mary, > in Arbuthnott. > Charlotte Lyall b 1797. Her parents John Lyall and Isobell Ross married > there in 1791. > > Any connections. > > You presumably know Lewis Grassic Gibbon's novels were set in the area.

Hello Emma and Janet, I am also very interested in Fordoun and visited there last September. My ancestors with connections to Fordoun are: David Murray who married Elizabeth Alexander in 1783 and then Catherine Edward in 1788. His son James Murray b 1789. He married Jean Christie in Garvock in 1815 but they had two sons, George and Wiiliam in Fordoun and a daughter, Mary, in Arbuthnott. Charlotte Lyall b 1797. Her parents John Lyall and Isobell Ross married there in 1791. Any connections. You presumably know Lewis Grassic Gibbon's novels were set in the area. Yours Jim Murray

Hello Emma, I've connections in that area in the following names: Sherret/and variations - Arbuthnott. These who married Sherret: Henry - Bervie Watson - Arbuthnott Grant - Fordoun Stephen - Glenbervie Young - Fordoun Christie - Fordoun Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Jolly" <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> > Hello Listers, > > I would like to introduce myself to the list. > > I am pleased that there are many connections to Fordoun as it is such a small place. > > My ancestors lived there (Fordoun) at the time of the 1861 census. > > James JOLLY and wife Charlotte MITCHELL ran a farm. > > Their son, William JOLLY was a blacksmith. > > The JOLLY family come from Arbuthnott and the MITCHELLs from Kineff. > > If anyone has any connections with these families or has any information on the surnames or places, I would be very pleased to hear from you.

Hello Listers, I would like to introduce myself to the list. I am pleased that there are many connections to Fordoun as it is such a small place. My ancestors lived there (Fordoun) at the time of the 1861 census. James JOLLY and wife Charlotte MITCHELL ran a farm. Their son, William JOLLY was a blacksmith. The JOLLY family come from Arbuthnott and the MITCHELLs from Kineff. If anyone has any connections with these families or has any information on the surnames or places, I would be very pleased to hear from you. Best wishes to all, Emma Jolly. --------------------------------- Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now.

the BBC have a programme that could be work watching. they are helping Sheila Hancock trace her family tree Smile God loves you Irene M Cunningham

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//AgC.2ACI/1321.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Not sure if this will help either of you but here's NICOL information that I have. I also have some MILNE information but they are from Foveran. If you would like to see it I will post it. Cherryl Descendants of David Nicol 1 David NICOL b: 25 Nov 1789 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: in Fettercairn, Aberdeenshire +Jean WATTIE b: 25 Nov 1792 in Strachan, Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire m: Abt. 1820 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: 01 Jun 1840 in Fettercairn, Aberdeenshire 2 Janet NICOL b: 12 Feb 1821 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire 2 Alexander NICOL b: Abt. 1823 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire 2 David NICOL b: 28 May 1824 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: 19 Feb 1917 in Fettercairn, Aberdeenshire 2 Helen NICOL b: Abt. 1827 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: 08 Jul 1904 in Largs, Ayrshire ... +James DAVIDSON b: Abt. 1830 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire m: 08 Nov 1845 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: 05 Aug 1908 in Largs, Ayrshire 2 Jean NICOL b: 28 Apr 1828 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire 2 Mary NICOL b: 29 May 1830 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire 2 Grace Leslie NICOL b: 16 Dec 1833 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: 09 Nov 1841 in Fettercairn, Aberdeenshire 2 Joanna NICOL b: Abt. 1836 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: in Toronto, York, Ontario ... +Thomas PURDON b: Abt. 1830 in Ironburgshire, Scotland m: 11 Oct 1867 in Toronto, York, Ontario 2 Jane NICOL b: 25 Sep 1836 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire d: in Toronto, York, Ontario ... +Thomas G. SMITH b: Abt. 1841 in Lincoln, England m: 09 Nov 1865 in Toronto, York, Ontario 2 John NICOL b: 25 Sep 1836 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire 2 Son NICOL b: 12 Aug 1838 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire

Hi folks I have returned to researching my Emslie lines in Strachan just in case something new springs to mind. WILLIAM EMSLIE married JANET FERRIES 1 December 1805 Strachan and had the following children: Alexander 2 Feb 1807 Robert 22 Mar 1811 James and Janet 1813 I have no knowledge of where William came from but his spouse Janet was from the Parish of Birse. His son, ALEXANDER EMSLIE married his cousin HELEN FERRIES in 1852. This is my line. The other predominant Emslie family in Strachan is WILLIAM EMSLIE (parents JAMES EMSLIE and HELEN GRANT). William married MARGARET NICOL born 1803 Birse - parents DONALD NICOL and MARGARET DAVIDSON. Living nearby the above family is CHRISTIAN McPHERSON (nee Nicol) and presumably the sister of MARGARET NICOL - again born Birse. One other EMSLIE family I cannot connect is that of PETER EMSLIE married to ELSPET GOVE. Are any of these names familiar to anyone? I would love to hear from you. Regards Sharon researching GLASS EMSLIE COUTTS McKONDACH and GORDON in Aberdeenshire and Kincardineshire special interests in parish of BIRSE, and the area of the FOREST OF BIRSE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//AgC.2ACI/1321.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Iain. I'm having difficulty connecting the Milnes - as the earliest ones I have are in St Cyrus - I'll concentrate on that area for now. The Stuarts - well it's possible there could be a connection between your David and Margaret's father Francis. I'd hoped that his first name would help me find him but no luck to date but as he was married in 1826 he could well connect to your David Stuart. And Francis did have a son David so if you find a Francis, do let me know! Regards, Agnes

My sixth great-grandfather, William DONALD, married Margaret MERTINE (MARTIN) in Banchory Devenick, 17 Feb 1737. They had three children that I know of in Nigg. Anyone see any connections they'd like to follow up on, drop me a line. Alison Spring East Kilbride Lanarkshire Scotland

Many Thanks Irene. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene and Bill Cunningham" <cunningham.1@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Ross Family and Birse was: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > Please excuse me if you get 2 copies of this and for the typing errora > > Try > > http://www.birsecommunitytrust.org.uk/ > for the birse community trust. > > You will get lots of info there. > they may be able to help > Smile God loves you > > Irene M Cunningham > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bond [mailto:jb4007@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: 13 January 2006 03:48 > To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > > > Looking for details Ann Ross b 4/12/1821 Kincardine m David Murdoch in New > South Wales 1840. She could have been convict. Where they married, > Singleton, was a staging area for convicts recently arrived in Australia. > Any comments appreciated -- Jim Bond > jb4007@optusnet.com.au > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <alibell@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:30 PM > Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > > >> Interests Ross & Bell Family. >> >> David Bell (My ggg Grand Father)b.12/4/1779 Strachan Kincardineshire. >> married, Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. >> Her Parents were William Ross & Janet Lyon. >> Married 5 Jun 1777 OLD MACHAR ABERDEEN. >> They had 3 Children I can find. >> Peter Ross b.7 Sep 1780 Aberdeenshire. >> Janet Ross b. 8 Sep 1783 Aberdeenshire. >> Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. >> >> Parents of David Bell were David Bell & Christian Robertson. >> Married 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincarfdineshire. >> Also 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Alistair >> Bell. >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Jim, I'm afraid I have not details of Ross connections apart from Elizabeth Ross, her Parents & their children. Cheers Alistair. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bond" <jb4007@optusnet.com.au> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > Looking for details Ann Ross b 4/12/1821 Kincardine m David Murdoch in New > South Wales 1840. She could have been convict. Where they married, > Singleton, was a staging area for convicts recently arrived in Australia. > Any comments appreciated -- Jim Bond > jb4007@optusnet.com.au > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <alibell@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:30 PM > Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > > >> Interests Ross & Bell Family. >> >> David Bell (My ggg Grand Father)b.12/4/1779 Strachan Kincardineshire. >> married, Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. >> Her Parents were William Ross & Janet Lyon. >> Married 5 Jun 1777 OLD MACHAR ABERDEEN. >> They had 3 Children I can find. >> Peter Ross b.7 Sep 1780 Aberdeenshire. >> Janet Ross b. 8 Sep 1783 Aberdeenshire. >> Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. >> >> Parents of David Bell were David Bell & Christian Robertson. >> Married 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincarfdineshire. >> Also 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Alistair >> Bell. >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Please excuse me if you get 2 copies of this and for the typing errora Try http://www.birsecommunitytrust.org.uk/ for the birse community trust. You will get lots of info there. they may be able to help Smile God loves you Irene M Cunningham -----Original Message----- From: James Bond [mailto:jb4007@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 13 January 2006 03:48 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire Looking for details Ann Ross b 4/12/1821 Kincardine m David Murdoch in New South Wales 1840. She could have been convict. Where they married, Singleton, was a staging area for convicts recently arrived in Australia. Any comments appreciated -- Jim Bond jb4007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: <alibell@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > Interests Ross & Bell Family. > > David Bell (My ggg Grand Father)b.12/4/1779 Strachan Kincardineshire. > married, Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. > Her Parents were William Ross & Janet Lyon. > Married 5 Jun 1777 OLD MACHAR ABERDEEN. > They had 3 Children I can find. > Peter Ross b.7 Sep 1780 Aberdeenshire. > Janet Ross b. 8 Sep 1783 Aberdeenshire. > Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. > > Parents of David Bell were David Bell & Christian Robertson. > Married 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincarfdineshire. > Also 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Alistair > Bell. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Looking for details Ann Ross b 4/12/1821 Kincardine m David Murdoch in New South Wales 1840. She could have been convict. Where they married, Singleton, was a staging area for convicts recently arrived in Australia. Any comments appreciated -- Jim Bond jb4007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: <alibell@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Bell Family Strachan Kincardineshire > Interests Ross & Bell Family. > > David Bell (My ggg Grand Father)b.12/4/1779 Strachan Kincardineshire. > married, Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. > Her Parents were William Ross & Janet Lyon. > Married 5 Jun 1777 OLD MACHAR ABERDEEN. > They had 3 Children I can find. > Peter Ross b.7 Sep 1780 Aberdeenshire. > Janet Ross b. 8 Sep 1783 Aberdeenshire. > Elizabeth Ross b.8/12/1879 Birse Kincardineshire. > > Parents of David Bell were David Bell & Christian Robertson. > Married 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincarfdineshire. > Also 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Scotland. Alistair > Bell. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >