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    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] RE: Fordoun book
    2. Janet
    3. From what I have read Iain, I think you are right. Wasn't it in the Kirk in Fordoun that the people of Auchenblae worship. I think they do now. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Stewart" <istewart@f2s.com> > Hi Emma, > > I stand to be corrected but I think that the main graveyard/kirkyard in the > parish of Fordoun was in Auchenblae rather than the village of Fordoun. > > Please have a look at Colin's Milne's website at > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nescotland/graveyards/grfdoun.htm > > Regards > Iain

    01/25/2006 01:22:53
    1. RE: Fordoun book
    2. Iain Stewart
    3. Hi Emma, I stand to be corrected but I think that the main graveyard/kirkyard in the parish of Fordoun was in Auchenblae rather than the village of Fordoun. Please have a look at Colin's Milne's website at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nescotland/graveyards/grfdoun.htm Regards Iain -----Original Message----- From: Emma Jolly [mailto:eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 24 January 2006 10:56 To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Fordoun book Thanks to Iain and Lesley for your comments on the Fordoun book. I shall follow the titles and links you suggest. Thanks Iain for mentioning Auchenblae - it is this part of Fordoun where James Jolly and wife Charlotte Mitchell lived. Best wishes, Emma Jolly. - ------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. ______________________________

    01/25/2006 11:49:03
    1. SCT-KINCARDINE SHERET
    2. richard laurence
    3. Hi all Looking for information on a James Sheret Married to Jane Daveny Scotland & their son William I have a Son for them William Sheret Born ABT1796 Married Isabella Stephen I do have the death cert for William & it gives his Parents as above I now some of the researchers have this William Sheret that Married Isabella Stephen to be the son of Hugh Sheret & Violet Hendry, I can confirm that this is wrong William the son of Hugh Sheret & Violet Hendry Married Isabella Campbell This William Died 17 Sep 1889 Stonehaven Any one interested in this information, am willing to send Cert

    01/24/2006 09:00:44
    1. Re: Munro and Ross Families from Kincardine Parish
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//AgC.2ACI/1317.1.1 Message Board Post: Please email me directly and I will send you what I have. ddo@mchsi.com

    01/24/2006 06:43:15
    1. Re: Fordoun book
    2. Emma Jolly
    3. Thanks to Iain and Lesley for your comments on the Fordoun book. I shall follow the titles and links you suggest. Thanks Iain for mentioning Auchenblae - it is this part of Fordoun where James Jolly and wife Charlotte Mitchell lived. Best wishes, Emma Jolly. --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.

    01/24/2006 03:56:10
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Jimn'Shirl
    3. Thank you Betty for the information re /Flitting the Flakes/ I shall try to get a copy. Shirley Jimn'Shirl wrote: > Hello Betty: > Does the book /Flitting the Flakes/ make mention of an estate/place > called Glaschoil, Kincardineshire? Our ancestor came from that place, > Donald, son of Roderick MacKenzie of Glaschoil, Kincardineshire. I > wonder if there is any mention of that spot or similar ones in the > book?. Did it concern latter part of 1700s or early 1800s. > Thank you for taking the time to read this note, if it is convenient I > would appreciate your comments. > Shirley > Nova Scotia > > Betty wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> I did purchase this book "Flitting the Flakes" a few years ago, I am >> not >> sure whether it is still in print, it was published by Aberdeen >> University >> Press and National Museums of Scotland in 1992.. >> and as mentioned the catalogue number is ISBN 1 85752 008 4 >> >> It is excellent reading to find out how people lived at that time >> >> As I mentioned in the email to Emma, the burial records for >> Kincardinshire have been printed in a booklet entitled "M.I for >> Kincardinshire" I am not sure which Scottish Genealogy Society >> printed the >> booklet, but it should still be available. >> >> Cheers, >> Betty >> Adelaide, South Australia >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: diana murray <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> >> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff >> >> >> >> >>> Hi there Betty, >>> >>> I too have a lot of ancestors who came from the Howe of the Mearns >>> >> >> country - >> >> >>> mainly Murrays, Christies and Keillors. >>> >>> I would be very interested in the farmer's diary 'Flitting Flakes'. >>> Is it >>> possible to purchase a copy? >>> >>> Also of interest would be the burial records for Fordoun. >>> >>> Yours >>> >>> Jim Murray >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

    01/24/2006 02:39:55
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Robert Dunbar
    3. Edinburgh is the Scottish Genealogy Society from whom I purchased the Book "KINCARDINESHIRE The Mearns Monumental Inscriptions pre 1855", a couple of months ago. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <betty1@senet.com.au> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > Hi Jim, > I did purchase this book "Flitting the Flakes" a few years ago, I am not > sure whether it is still in print, it was published by Aberdeen University > Press and National Museums of Scotland in 1992.. > and as mentioned the catalogue number is ISBN 1 85752 008 4 > > It is excellent reading to find out how people lived at that time > > As I mentioned in the email to Emma, the burial records for > Kincardinshire have been printed in a booklet entitled "M.I for > Kincardinshire" I am not sure which Scottish Genealogy Society printed > the > booklet, but it should still be available. > > Cheers, > Betty > Adelaide, South Australia > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: diana murray <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:05 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > > >> Hi there Betty, >> >> I too have a lot of ancestors who came from the Howe of the Mearns > country - >> mainly Murrays, Christies and Keillors. >> >> I would be very interested in the farmer's diary 'Flitting Flakes'. Is >> it >> possible to purchase a copy? >> >> Also of interest would be the burial records for Fordoun. >> >> Yours >> >> Jim Murray >> >> >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > >

    01/23/2006 05:18:17
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Lesley Robertson
    3. >From: "Iain Stewart" <istewart@f2s.com> >Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:30:38 -0000 > >Hi Emma, > > >I was interested that you have a notice of the listings of burials at >Fordoun Churchyard. Would you be able to tell me where I might >find a copy >of these? [The Jolly listed there may be related, but I think he us >probably >an Irish Jolly - there are many over there >too]. > >I have a copy of a booklet called ‘Pre-1855 Monumental Inscriptions >Kincardineshire (The Mearns)’. As far as the parish of Fordoun is concerned >it includes the churchyard of Auchenblae and what was left of the >chapelyard >of St Catherine within the vanished town of Kincardine. It is published by >the Scottish Genealogy Society price £16.00. > Their web site 9and catalogue) is here http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ Lesley Robertson

    01/23/2006 01:57:53
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET for JANET
    2. Janet
    3. Sent privately. I've noted since that I haven't updated it with the two names you gave earlier. Regards Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard laurence" <r.laurence@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET for JANET > Hello Janet > > it still active, But very slow, I have not seen any thing lately > > Yes I would like to se the information, you can send direct if you would > like > > Richard

    01/23/2006 12:04:50
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET for JANET
    2. richard laurence
    3. Hello Janet it still active, But very slow, I have not seen any thing lately Yes I would like to se the information, you can send direct if you would like Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET > Hello Richard, Yes, same line. I am wondering if I can send you > details of both lines I have, in case you can find a relationship between > them? Yes, I have been subscribed to the Sherret list, Amber recognises > me every time ;-) I haven't had any mails from them. Is it still active? > > Janet

    01/23/2006 11:59:48
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Iain Stewart
    3. Hi Emma, >I was interested that you have a notice of the listings of burials at Fordoun Churchyard. Would you be able to tell me where I might >find a copy of these? [The Jolly listed there may be related, but I think he us probably an Irish Jolly - there are many over there >too]. I have a copy of a booklet called ‘Pre-1855 Monumental Inscriptions Kincardineshire (The Mearns)’. As far as the parish of Fordoun is concerned it includes the churchyard of Auchenblae and what was left of the chapelyard of St Catherine within the vanished town of Kincardine. It is published by the Scottish Genealogy Society price £16.00. Regards Iain

    01/23/2006 10:30:38
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Betty
    3. Hi Jim, I did purchase this book "Flitting the Flakes" a few years ago, I am not sure whether it is still in print, it was published by Aberdeen University Press and National Museums of Scotland in 1992.. and as mentioned the catalogue number is ISBN 1 85752 008 4 It is excellent reading to find out how people lived at that time As I mentioned in the email to Emma, the burial records for Kincardinshire have been printed in a booklet entitled "M.I for Kincardinshire" I am not sure which Scottish Genealogy Society printed the booklet, but it should still be available. Cheers, Betty Adelaide, South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: diana murray <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > Hi there Betty, > > I too have a lot of ancestors who came from the Howe of the Mearns country - > mainly Murrays, Christies and Keillors. > > I would be very interested in the farmer's diary 'Flitting Flakes'. Is it > possible to purchase a copy? > > Also of interest would be the burial records for Fordoun. > > Yours > > Jim Murray > > > > >

    01/23/2006 07:52:20
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. diana murray
    3. Hello Betty - thank you very much for the helpful information. I plan to get hold of both of the items with best wishes Jim

    01/23/2006 06:50:00
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET
    2. Janet
    3. Hello Richard, Yes, same line. I am wondering if I can send you details of both lines I have, in case you can find a relationship between them? Yes, I have been subscribed to the Sherret list, Amber recognises me every time ;-) I haven't had any mails from them. Is it still active? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard laurence" <r.laurence@ntlworld.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] SHERET > Hello all > > I have a Sherret line from George Sherret & Isobel Wright , Daughter > Margaret Sherret Married John Birse 22 Aug 1835 Glenbervie, Their son George > Birse Married Mary Laurence 18 June 1865 at Damhead Fordoun. > > Have you been on the Sherret Sherret-L@rootsweb.com > > Richard >

    01/23/2006 05:20:58
    1. Re: SCT-KINCARDINE-D Digest V06 #10
    2. Emma Jolly
    3. Hi Betty, Thanks for all the information you have given me. It is all very useful and I shall follow it up. Best wishes, Emma Jolly. Researching: JOLLY HENDRY MITCHELL BURNESS - Fordoun, Arbuthnott, Kineff and surrounding areas --------------------------------- Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now ---------------------------------

    01/23/2006 04:13:06
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Jimn'Shirl
    3. Hello Betty: Does the book /Flitting the Flakes/ make mention of an estate/place called Glaschoil, Kincardineshire? Our ancestor came from that place, Donald, son of Roderick MacKenzie of Glaschoil, Kincardineshire. I wonder if there is any mention of that spot or similar ones in the book?. Did it concern latter part of 1700s or early 1800s. Thank you for taking the time to read this note, if it is convenient I would appreciate your comments. Shirley Nova Scotia Betty wrote: >Hi Jim, >I did purchase this book "Flitting the Flakes" a few years ago, I am not >sure whether it is still in print, it was published by Aberdeen University >Press and National Museums of Scotland in 1992.. >and as mentioned the catalogue number is ISBN 1 85752 008 4 > >It is excellent reading to find out how people lived at that time > > As I mentioned in the email to Emma, the burial records for >Kincardinshire have been printed in a booklet entitled "M.I for >Kincardinshire" I am not sure which Scottish Genealogy Society printed the >booklet, but it should still be available. > >Cheers, >Betty >Adelaide, South Australia > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: diana murray <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> >To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:05 AM >Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > > > > >>Hi there Betty, >> >>I too have a lot of ancestors who came from the Howe of the Mearns >> >> >country - > > >>mainly Murrays, Christies and Keillors. >> >>I would be very interested in the farmer's diary 'Flitting Flakes'. Is it >>possible to purchase a copy? >> >>Also of interest would be the burial records for Fordoun. >> >>Yours >> >>Jim Murray >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

    01/23/2006 03:06:43
    1. Flitting the Flakes
    2. Hi folks If you can't find Flitting the Flakes elsewhere, you can find it here. http://www.scottishbooks.com/book_details.asp?ID=31 Ann

    01/23/2006 12:19:04
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. Betty
    3. Hi Emma, You ask about my g.g.grandmother's will -Susan Kyd/Bayne.... There were 64 names listed in her book debts... including ....her father Samuel Kyd ....who was in debt to her for two pounds 12 shillings and elevenpence halfpenny.... The largest amount owing her was nine pounds nineteen shillings and sevenpence halfpenny by a George Begg of Laurencekirk..the next one was the Rev. Robert Spark of Laurencekirk for six pounds six shillings and tenpence..... But her will does not give a clue as to what type of business she was in..only shows that it was not profitable.... Debtors came from such districts as Laurencekirk, Bridge of Leppie, Ottyhill, Tullock. Garrock, Garvock and many other areas...maybe she travelled around to outlying areas... I would dearly love to know what type of business... the will just states "Merchant in Laurencekirk""... I copied out various pages of M.I. from a booklet held at my local South Australian Genealogy Society, I believe it is called "M.I. for Kincardinshire" , and it was just a coincidence that the pages I had copied included the name of JOLLY , there could be many more by that name included in the booklet. You may also be interested in a book called "Flitting the Flakes" the diary of J.Badenoch a Stonehaven Farmer 1789-1797." The actual diary has been transcribed and printed.... It is the day to day work of a farmer, and includes how farm labourers were hired.; they seemed to be hired on an annual basis,.. the daily weather... etc. etc. Interesting to me as it is the record of "Whiteriggs" in Fordoun, where my Samuel Kydd also lived and worked in the early 1800's.... With best wishes, Betty Adelaide, South Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Emma Jolly <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:29 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > Hello > > Thanks to all who responded to the above enquiry. > > Thanks to Betty for info on the KYDD family of "WHITERIGGS" FORDOUN. They sound interesting. Agriculture was clearly the central occupation of the area. > > There may have been such a large number of workers on the farm there at the time of the 1841 census as it took place during the harvest period when as many workers as possible were needed. Many harvest workers were temporary, coming from different areas and even other countries (such as Ireland) to earn some extra money. > > "She ran some sort of business in this little township, and not very successfully, as her will of June 1838 shows book debts owing to her of 92 pounds fourteen shillings and ninepence... ..which were never paid..... amongst the list of debtors there is the name of David JOLLY who was in debt to her for 14 shillings and threepence halfpenny...Laurencekirk is close by to Fordoun...." > > That's a lot of money! £92 in 1838 - I'd be interested to know what the largest amount owing was and who by. It would be interesting if it were the same David JOLLY. Thanks for mentioning this. I shall investigate this further. David, though, lived in Arbuthnott, not Fordoun. His son James moved to Fordoun to run a farm there as his older brother John had taken over David's old farm in Arbuthnott in the 1850s. > > I was interested that you have a notice of the listings of burials at Fordoun Churchyard. Would you be able to tell me where I might find a copy of these? [The Jolly listed there may be related, but I think he us probably an Irish Jolly - there are many over there too]. > > If you have > anything to add to that, I'd be happy to here from you. Obviously any information on buildings that would have been there in the 19th century such as churches, pubs, stores etc would be of interest. > Best wishes, > > Emma Jolly. > > >

    01/22/2006 12:50:07
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. diana murray
    3. Hi there Betty, I too have a lot of ancestors who came from the Howe of the Mearns country - mainly Murrays, Christies and Keillors. I would be very interested in the farmer's diary 'Flitting Flakes'. Is it possible to purchase a copy? Also of interest would be the burial records for Fordoun. Yours Jim Murray

    01/22/2006 09:35:20
    1. Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff
    2. George Currie
    3. Hello Betty , I would be very interested to read "Flitting the Flakes" , does it have an ISBN number ?. Regards George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <betty1@senet.com.au> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > Hi Emma, > You ask about my g.g.grandmother's will -Susan Kyd/Bayne.... > There were 64 names listed in her book debts... including ....her > father > Samuel Kyd ....who was in debt to her for two pounds 12 shillings and > elevenpence halfpenny.... > The largest amount owing her was nine pounds nineteen shillings and > sevenpence halfpenny by a George Begg of Laurencekirk..the next one was > the > Rev. Robert Spark of Laurencekirk for six pounds six shillings and > tenpence..... > But her will does not give a clue as to what type of business she was > in..only shows that it was not profitable.... > Debtors came from such districts as Laurencekirk, Bridge of Leppie, > Ottyhill, Tullock. Garrock, Garvock and many other areas...maybe she > travelled around to outlying areas... > I would dearly love to know what type of business... the will just states > "Merchant in Laurencekirk""... > > I copied out various pages of M.I. from a booklet held at my local South > Australian Genealogy Society, I believe it is called "M.I. for > Kincardinshire" , and it was just a coincidence that the pages I had > copied > included the name of JOLLY , there could be many more by that name > included > in the booklet. > > You may also be interested in a book called "Flitting the Flakes" the > diary > of J.Badenoch a Stonehaven Farmer 1789-1797." The actual diary has been > transcribed and printed.... It is the day to day work of a farmer, and > includes how farm labourers were hired.; they seemed to be hired on an > annual basis,.. the daily weather... etc. etc. > Interesting to me as it is the record of "Whiteriggs" in Fordoun, where > my > Samuel Kydd also lived and worked in the early 1800's.... > With best wishes, > Betty > Adelaide, South Australia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emma Jolly <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:29 AM > Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Fordoun Arbuthnott Kineff > > >> Hello >> >> Thanks to all who responded to the above enquiry. >> >> Thanks to Betty for info on the KYDD family of "WHITERIGGS" FORDOUN. > They sound interesting. Agriculture was clearly the central occupation of > the area. >> >> There may have been such a large number of workers on the farm there at > the time of the 1841 census as it took place during the harvest period > when > as many workers as possible were needed. Many harvest workers were > temporary, coming from different areas and even other countries (such as > Ireland) to earn some extra money. >> >> "She ran some sort of business in this little township, and not very > successfully, as her will of June 1838 shows book debts owing to her of 92 > pounds fourteen shillings and ninepence... ..which were never paid..... > amongst the list of debtors there is the name of David JOLLY who was in > debt > to her for 14 shillings and threepence halfpenny...Laurencekirk is close > by > to Fordoun...." >> >> That's a lot of money! £92 in 1838 - I'd be interested to know what the > largest amount owing was and who by. It would be interesting if it were > the > same David JOLLY. Thanks for mentioning this. I shall investigate this > further. David, though, lived in Arbuthnott, not Fordoun. His son James > moved to Fordoun to run a farm there as his older brother John had taken > over David's old farm in Arbuthnott in the 1850s. >> >> I was interested that you have a notice of the listings of burials at > Fordoun Churchyard. Would you be able to tell me where I might find a copy > of these? [The Jolly listed there may be related, but I think he us > probably > an Irish Jolly - there are many over there too]. >> >> > If you have >> anything to add to that, I'd be happy to here from you. Obviously any > information on buildings that would have been there in the 19th century > such > as churches, pubs, stores etc would be of interest. > > >> Best wishes, >> >> Emma Jolly. >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > >

    01/22/2006 05:53:51