Hi Emma and Colin, We also believe we have Jolly in our Hadden or Forbes Tree. My gt.grandmother Hadden nee Forbes entered two Jolly's ( Florence and Maggie) in her little date book. This would have been in the late 1800's or early 1900's. Mary (Forbes) Hadden lived Drumlithie, Kincardine but shortly after her marriage 1775, moved to Craig near Montrose, Angus. She died 1946 but I believe her last entry was about 1932. I have yet to find how or if the Jolly's connect to our family. If you have any information, I'd appreciate hearing. Thanks, Helen Miller (Louisiana USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: colin mills To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fordoun, Arbuthnott, Kineff Hi Emma, We believe we have Jolly's in our tree but have not been able to prove it.. (Yet) We believe Janet Jolly (c1782) was the daughter of Alexander Jolly and Ann Christison, who married John Low My GGMother was Agnes Low, believed to be the twin sister born to John Low and Janet Jolly of Muckletullo ( a farm north of Edzell) August 29, 1818. John Low & Janet Jolly were contracted to marriage in Edzell Parish July 15, 1815., however, we have not been able to find Parish Records for the marriage of Agnes Low to my GGFather Henry Webster. Does any of this show up in your records ? Sorry for such a delayed response but we have been away for 2 month and just now getting back into matters of Family. Colin Mills, Kamloops, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Jolly" <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:13 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fordoun, Arbuthnott, Kineff > Hello Listers, > > I would like to introduce myself to the list. > > I am pleased that there are many connections to Fordoun as it is such a small place. > > My ancestors lived there (Fordoun) at the time of the 1861 census. > > James JOLLY and wife Charlotte MITCHELL ran a farm. > > Their son, William JOLLY was a blacksmith. > > The JOLLY family come from Arbuthnott and the MITCHELLs from Kineff. > > If anyone has any connections with these families or has any information on the surnames or places, I would be very pleased to hear from you. > > Best wishes to all, > > Emma Jolly. > > > --------------------------------- > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/06 > > ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Emma, We believe we have Jolly's in our tree but have not been able to prove it.. (Yet) We believe Janet Jolly (c1782) was the daughter of Alexander Jolly and Ann Christison, who married John Low My GGMother was Agnes Low, believed to be the twin sister born to John Low and Janet Jolly of Muckletullo ( a farm north of Edzell) August 29, 1818. John Low & Janet Jolly were contracted to marriage in Edzell Parish July 15, 1815., however, we have not been able to find Parish Records for the marriage of Agnes Low to my GGFather Henry Webster. Does any of this show up in your records ? Sorry for such a delayed response but we have been away for 2 month and just now getting back into matters of Family. Colin Mills, Kamloops, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Jolly" <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:13 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Fordoun, Arbuthnott, Kineff > Hello Listers, > > I would like to introduce myself to the list. > > I am pleased that there are many connections to Fordoun as it is such a small place. > > My ancestors lived there (Fordoun) at the time of the 1861 census. > > James JOLLY and wife Charlotte MITCHELL ran a farm. > > Their son, William JOLLY was a blacksmith. > > The JOLLY family come from Arbuthnott and the MITCHELLs from Kineff. > > If anyone has any connections with these families or has any information on the surnames or places, I would be very pleased to hear from you. > > Best wishes to all, > > Emma Jolly. > > > --------------------------------- > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/06 > >

Hi I am new to this list and wish to post my interests. I am researching the Thompson family who lived in Johnshaven from about 1822 - ? William Thompson son of Thomas and was a coastguard/customs man and moved around quite a lot, he married Ann Mitchell in St Bees Cumbria in 1810, Ann was from Kincardineshire. They had the following children: Thomas born 18.8.1811 in Whitehaven Cumberland Henry born 2.7.1813 in Whitehaven William born in 1815 in Whitehaven and died there in 1817 John born 16.5.1817 in Whitehaven William II born in Alnmouth in 1821 and died in Johnshaven in 1822 which means the family moved to Johnshaven in 1821/22 Maria Elizabeth born in Johnshaven 15.1.1824 Robert born in Johnshaven20.7.1825 Mary Ann born 2.5.1929 in Johnshaven and Married Thomas Clark We still have the family bible in our family's posession but know very little about this family apart from the fact that three of the boys John Robert and Thomas all moved to North Shields, it is of great interest to us to find out when this happened, and what happened to the remainder of the family. John is my gt gt gt grandfather. I have found a death for a William Perot Thompson on Scotlands people in about 1856, but dont know if this is our William, confirmation of this would be valuable, also a death date for Anne(Mitchell) Thompson, and any connection with her family, I think she may have been born in Laurencekirk. Any asisstance would be greatly appreciated. Marg ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Afternoon all, I'm trying to find out more about my Officer line that most recently ends in the St. Quivox and Newton on Ayr regions of Ayrshire but haven't been too productive going past 1810. My ggg-grandmother was Margaret Officer. She was born in St. Quivox in 1810. She had a sister Agnes born in 1811 and according to records appear to have been christened together in March of 1811. They also had a brother John born 1813, but must've past away young as another brother John was born in 1818. Their parents were John Officer, a handloom weaver and pensioner, and Sarah Gladmond (also spelt Glandman, Gladman). I've never found any record of their marriage or births and wondered if perhaps they hailed from England or Ireland, but I'm also sending this to the Kincardine list as I know Officer is most commonly found there around Fetteresso and surrounding parishes. Is anyone else on the list researching Gladmond (or variants) and Officer? I've encountered one other person via these lists that is actually a relative but have never found anyone else researching it. My new found Officer relative also has no additional information on the family. Does anyone have access to the 1841 or earlier census for the St. Quivox or Newton on Ayr areas that might show these names and where they were born? I've tried searching for death records but haven't found anything as I assume both John and Sarah died before 1854. I've been deciding if I want to order the St. Quivox MI book online thinking it may show a headstone listing that may reveal more info. Margaret was living with her daughter, Sarah Graham (who mostly went by Sarah Officer on many records) from 1861 until her death in 1873. On most records for her (she apparently had applied for poor relief at one point but I have not requested those yet) she also went by Margaret Officer so I think that either she and John divorced or he died early in their marriage. I do know that on her death cert it lists her as Margaret Graham but on the 1861 and 1871 census she is listed as Officer. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Take care. Regards, Gregor Wright Lititz, PA USA

Hi Jim, Since I had a few credits lying out there with Scotlandspeople, I have gotten Elizabeth's marriage certificate. It should give you a start. Elizabeth was daughter of Henry Valentine and Elizabeth Christie and married John Adam son of George Adam and Elizabeth Lamond on the 29th Dec, 1868. She was born 02 May 1845 Dunnottar. I am scanning you a copy of the certificate separately for other details. (My Valentine ladies were from Angus and married my Hadden men) Hope this helps, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: The Allan Family To: SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Stonehaven Documentary Hello, I received an email from a production company in Scotland the other day asking for help in a documentary that they are currently working on. Below is part of the email for you to read. If you think that you can help in anyway, please contact me with the information and I will pass it on to them. CHEERS, Jim Allan <<< Hello, I am a documentary filmmaker and I am searching for the family history of a Elisabeth Valentine, married surname was Adams (Adam), who lived in Stonehaven in the 1860s. Can you advise at all in how to find this family? This is for a historical documentary we are making with Pamela Stephenson and Billy Connolly.>>> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Jim: Michael Dun, the web owner of www.dun.org has "Valentine" connections. He may be able to help. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Allan Family" <theallans@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Stonehaven Documentary > Hello, > > I received an email from a production company in Scotland the other day > asking for help in a documentary that they are currently working on. Below > is part of the email for you to read. If you think that you can help in > anyway, please contact me with the information and I will pass it on to > them. > > CHEERS, > Jim Allan > > > > <<< Hello, > > I am a documentary filmmaker and I am searching for the family history of a > Elisabeth Valentine, married surname was Adams (Adam), who lived in > Stonehaven in the 1860s. Can you advise at all in how to find this family? > This is for a historical documentary we are making with Pamela Stephenson > and Billy Connolly.>>> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello, I received an email from a production company in Scotland the other day asking for help in a documentary that they are currently working on. Below is part of the email for you to read. If you think that you can help in anyway, please contact me with the information and I will pass it on to them. CHEERS, Jim Allan <<< Hello, I am a documentary filmmaker and I am searching for the family history of a Elisabeth Valentine, married surname was Adams (Adam), who lived in Stonehaven in the 1860s. Can you advise at all in how to find this family? This is for a historical documentary we are making with Pamela Stephenson and Billy Connolly.>>>

My Bell Family Interests I'm looking for information on Alexander Bell b. 27 Jan 1794 Brechin Angus. He was married to Mary Durward b.1792. I'm trying to trace details connected to William Bell b.1820 also a Grocer in Logie-Pert. Who married Ann Baird b.17 Sep 1823 Montrose Angus. William Died in 1905 Alexander was a Grocer, he died in 1875, Age 81 in Laurencekirk Angus. His Parents were David Bell & Jane Guild. I'm trying to proove that David Bell's Parents were David Bell & Christean Allan. David being born on 25/12/1757. Cheers Alistair Bell.

To those searching the above mentioned name, I came across this information whilst searching this afternoon. I hope it may be of interest. The host website is here from which you will find Parish Registers http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jarronandmitchell/index.html ***** REGISTER OF INTERMENTS ***** 1838 October 30th John Jolly, Mickle Strath, 99 years. 1840 April 4th Jean Jolly or Mitchell, 36 years. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jarronandmitchell/pr_kcd_fettercairn.html 1817 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jarronandmitchell/pr_abd_old_machar.html February 28th John Calder and Elisabeth Jolly both of this parish were married. Janet Searching: Sherret, Dun/Dunn/Chester/Campbell

My Latest Update Re: Bell Family. Due to more information my Bell Family Tree has taken a different route. William Bell Married Ann Baird. He was a Grocer & Came from Logie-pert, Angus. I found his Death Certificate he Died Nov 4th 1905 age 84. The Parents were not David Bell & Elizabeth Ross. But Alexander Bell b.27 Jan 1794 & Ann Dorward b.1792. Alexander like William was a Grocer. Their Children were: Alexander b. 20 Oct 1816 Laurencekirk Angus. Margaret b. 24 May 1818 Brechin Angus. Parents of Alexander were David Bell b.25 Dec 1757 & Jane Guild They were Married in Aberlemnoon 3 Nov 1786. And Parents (Probably) of David were: David Bell & Christean Allan. Alistair.

Hello Everyone, If you have any family connections from the Stonehaven area, please check out my new site, "STONEHAVEN & DISTRICT WAR MEMORIAL" It is dedicated to the men and woman from the Stonehaven area who died during World War One and World War Two. If you are related to any of the names inscribed on the Memorial, please get in touch with me at my email address listed below as I am hoping to one day publish a book or CD on the subject. Don't forget to sign the Guestbook while your there as well. Thanks and have a "GREAT DAY"! Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/stonehavenwarmemorial/homepage.html CHEERS, Jim Allan in Victoria, B.C. CANADA StonehavenWarMemorial@shaw.ca

The following was what I thought was correct...WRONG..!! David Bell who Married Christian Robertson. Marriage 29 Oct 1769 Strachan Kincardineshire. And .. 16 NOV 1769 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardine, Scotland . Son: David Bell b. 12 Apr 1779 Strachan. d. 2 Jan 1857 Lerrachmore Strachan Kincardineshire. Married Elizabeth Ross b. 8 Dec 1789 Birse, Aberdeen. Children Andrew Bell 19/1/1820 Strachan Kincardineshire. David Bell b.10 Mar 1816 Strachan Kincardineshire. d. 27 Feb 1887 Upper Arbeadie Banchory. William Bell b.6 Jun 1822 Strachan Kincardineshire. Married Ann Baird b.17 Sep 1823 Montrose Angus. at 8 Dec 1843 at Logie Pert Angus. Then I found William Bell's (b.1820) Death Certificate. Died Nov 4th 1905 age 84. Married to Ann Baird. The Parents were not David Bell & Elizabeth Ross. But Alexander Bell & Ann Dorward (?). Alexander like William was a Grocer. Any Ideas..?? Cheers Alistair Bell.

Hello Everyone I'm new to the list having just managed to trace my GUYANs back to a marriage between John GAYEN and Ann DONALD in Nigg on 21st September 1788. I have their children as: Elspet c. 5 July 1789 Ann c. 29 May 1791 Alexander c. 11 February 1793 Christian c. 15 December 1794 Mary c. 23 October 1796 John c. 19 September 1798 - married Helen WALKER in Aberdeen on 20 Sept 1826 George c. 4 December 1800 Jane c. 23 January 1803 Elspit c. 17 September 1805 Moses c. 15 August 1807 William c. 3 July 1809 Susan c. 9 May 1812 Anybody else researching this line? Regards Gloria

Hi Bob, Thanks for copying out the section on Fordoun from your book. I shall find out about this book as it is claerly very useful. It sounds as though Fordoun was a large rural area with Auchenblae village as its social heart. Thanks very much for finding the details of my ancestors' headstone. It does appear to be them as the dates fit and James did have a younger sister called Agnes. I will contact Colin Milne as you have suggested. This is interesting. As far as I have researched my Jollys came from Arebuthnott but it is possible that these Jollys are siblings. Most Jollys seem to have lived in Forfar, rather than Kincardineshire so perhaps the Kin bunch were all connected in some way. I shall make a note and contact you further if I find a connection. I have a James JOLLY c 28 Dec 1797 Fordoun son of John JOLLY and Jean BYARS who married Anne DUNBAR on 20 July 1823 in my tree, so we may be distantly connected. Best wishes, Emma Jolly. --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.

What are your grandparents names Colin ? I have access to some MI's in the Kinneff kirkyard. Bob Gold Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Steven" <colin5353@gmail.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Kinneff Church > Hi Gang, > I was wondering if anyone on here might know who I can contact to find out > grave details of my grand parents, they are supposed to be at the Kinneff > Church graveyard, but I believe that this church is no longer in > operation?? > > Cheers - Colin Steven > Barossa Valley, South Australia > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/249 - Release Date: 2/02/2006 > >

Hi Gang, I was wondering if anyone on here might know who I can contact to find out grave details of my grand parents, they are supposed to be at the Kinneff Church graveyard, but I believe that this church is no longer in operation?? Cheers - Colin Steven Barossa Valley, South Australia

Hi, My great-grandmother was ISOBEL GAVIN born 8 Jan 1854 at LAURENCEKIRK. She was orphaned when she was around 8 years old and went to join extended family members in South Africa. She married there (twice) and died there on Nov 10 1940. Things I know about the family: Her siblings (all born in Laurencekirk) were: Margaret 1844, married Andrew Edward, died in South Africa. Alexander 1845. May have gone to South Africa James 1847 May have gone to South Africa brother born/died 1849 Elizabeth Ley 1850. Went to South Africa, married and thought to have died there. Annie Agnes 1856. Ditto Catherine Innes 1859 Ditto. Parents: ROBERT GAVIN and ISOBELLA/ISOBEL WILLIAMSON Married 22 July 1843 at Laurencekirk. Probably died around 1861/62. Can anyone help with this? ROBERT GAVIN was christened 7 May 1815 at Fordoun. His parents were ALEXANDER GAVIN and CATHERINE DAVIDSON and their "place of residence" is Whiteriggs. They married June 12 1814 at Fordoun. ROBERT'S siblings were: Alexander 1817, Jane 1819, John 1821, David 1823, Margaret 1825 and James 1831. A John Gavin established a foundry in Natal in 1860 and a David Gavin was the guardian of Isobel according to her license to marry issued in 1874 (this was her first marriage) in South Africa. ISOBELLA/ISOBEL WILLIAMSON - help needed here. The marriage entry for Isobella in the Brechin parish states that her place of residence was "Cadger Wynd". No birth entry has been found for her there, but a boy was born at "Cadger Wynd" on 6th March 1823 to an ALEXANDER WILLIAMSON and HELEN NEISH. Alexander was a weaver. Does anyone know if these could be Isobella's parents or if they are some other relative like an aunt and uncle. A search of the IGIs turned up an Isobella Williamson with different parents, so I am seeking the right one. Thank you in advance for any help. Rosemary Tearle, Northland, New Zealand.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Steven" <colin5353@gmail.com> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Kinneff Church > Hi Gang, > I was wondering if anyone on here might know who I can contact to find out > grave details of my grand parents, they are supposed to be at the Kinneff > Church graveyard, but I believe that this church is no longer in > operation?? > > Cheers - Colin Steven > Barossa Valley, South Australia Hi Colin, If you contact my good friend Colin Milne in Aberdeen, I'm sure he would be more than happy to give you a hand. He may even have a photo of your grandparents headstone, if it's still there. You can contact Colin at nescotland@tiscali.co.uk You can also read a little bit about the churchyard at Colin's fabulous web site "NE Scotland Genealogy" at: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nescotland/graveyards/grkneff.htm Good Luck and say "HI" to Colin for me! CHEERS, Jim Allan in Victoria, B.C., CANADA http://www.geocities.com/stonehavenwarmemorial/homepage.html http://www.geocities.com/thistleinn/

Hello Emma I have a book of MI inscriptions "Kincardineshire The Means" pre 1855 Monumental Inscriptions, I purchased from the Edinburgh Geni Society. It includes Fordoun and has an interesting introduction to the kirkyard listing. "The centre of the large parish of farms, muir and forest is at the village of Auchenblae where the present street plan was laid out after 1795. On high ground above the village is the site of one of the earliest Christian foundations in Scotland. St Palladius is reputed to have come here in the 5th century & the medieval chapel was dedicated to him. The shell of this building remains at the side of the buriel ground, is called St palladius aisle or Paldy kirk. It was rebuilt in 1788 but was demolished in 1828, remaining as the buriel place of the families of (Falconer of ) Glenfarguhar and (Irvine and Burnett of) Monboddo. The much larger new church built in 1828-9 stands a few yards to the north, surrounded by the well-kept burial ground." National Grid referance: NO 726 784 I had a quick and your rellies do have a readable headstone, the following is the MI recorded :- "Jas Jolly fauar hers 14. 7. 1866 55, w Charlotte Mitchell 31. 3. 1875 58, sis Agnes Jolly or Fiddes 15.6. 1902 79 " So I would contact Colin Milne as its possible that he has a photo of the headstone that he can send to you. I have a James JOLLY c 28 Dec 1797 Fordoun son of John JOLLY and Jean BYARS who married Anne DUNBAR on 20 July 1823 in my tree, so we may be distantly connected. Bob in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Jolly" <eejolly2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <SCT-KINCARDINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: SCT-KINCARDINE-D Digest V06 #13 > Hi Iain and Janet, > > Thanks for telling me about the website. It is very useful. I think > you're right about the kirk. > I was referring to Auchenblae village as being in the parish of Fordoun > on the 1841 census, which is stated on the return I have for James JOLLY. > > If you have any more information on Fordoun, I would be very interested > in it. > > Thanks, > > Emma. > > >> > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > voicemail > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/249 - Release Date: 2/02/2006 > >

Hi Iain and Janet, Thanks for telling me about the website. It is very useful. I think you're right about the kirk. I was referring to Auchenblae village as being in the parish of Fordoun on the 1841 census, which is stated on the return I have for James JOLLY. If you have any more information on Fordoun, I would be very interested in it. Thanks, Emma. > --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail