Is anyone else connected to the ADAM and GRAHAM families of Laurencekirk and Fordoun please? I have James ADAM who married Margaret GRAHAM about 1790 and had 16 children - six at Laurencekirk and ten at Fordoun.With that size of family, I guess there are a good number of descendants around! Doreen

I have found the following on the 1881 census that may fit your request. I have no relationship. There are two possible Helen Haddens. 1.Dwelling: Hillside Of Guthrie Census Place: Guthrie, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203493 GRO Ref Volume 291 EnumDist 1 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David ANDERSON M 58 M Auchterhouse, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 123 Acres Arable Employing 2 Men & 1 Girl Elizabeth ANDERSON M 60 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife George B. ANDERSON U 18 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Farmers Son Helen HADDON U 19 F Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: General Serv 2. Dwelling: Paddock Burn Census Place: Kinneff & Catterline, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203470 GRO Ref Volume 262 EnumDist 1 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alexander ESTIN M 24 M Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farm Servant Eliza ESTIN M 26 F New Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Wife David ESTIN 1 M Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Son Mary NORRIE W 52 F Udny, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Mother In Law Hellen HADDEN U 18 F Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Serv Domestic John DOUGLAS 14 M St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Farm Serv Good luck Ron Dwelling: Bothy Census Place: St Cyrus, Kincardine, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203471 GRO Ref Volume 267 EnumDist 1 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James MACKIE U 55 M Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Salmon Fisher David STEWART 23 M Bervie, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Salmon Fisher James WISHART W 51 M Benholm, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Lodg Occ: Salmon Fisher John DAVIDSON U 20 M Montrose, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Lodg Occ: Salmon Fisher ] STUART > >I am reposting my info in hopes that I can find some information about these people and family. > >David Stuart born May 28, 1857, Inverbervie >died 1920 >married >Helen Ann Hadden born July 3, 1862, Auchenblar >died 1938 > >Children >Mabel Jane Stuart born Feb 26, 1889, Inverbervie >married >David Thompson Simpson born Aug 19, 1884, Inverbervie > >Alexander Stuart married Maggie Garvan last address Falkirk Sct >Willie Stuart married Fanny Clark Airdrie Sct >Maggie Stuart married James Taylor Dundee Sct > >Any help would be greatly appreciated, Earleen Johnson, Ontario, Canada * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get your free @ecosse.net account http://www.ecosse.net Scotland's Free Internet Service Provider * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hi all. I've recently joined this list as I discovered my ancestors in Aberdeen were from Kincardine the generation before. They were Joseph BEATTIE & Elspet ANDERSON. Joseph was born 1791 to Alexander BEATIE & Jean MAWYER in Maryculter and Elspet was born in 1792 to Andrew ANDERSON & Jean ALLAN in Banchory Devenick. Anyone else researching these names ? Angela from Gold Coast, Australia.

Hi All , Can some kind person tell me where I can find shipping lists coming to Aus from Scotland ( Kincardine O'Neil area ). I want both convict ships and Immagration ships, I am trying to find how an ancester arrived age abt 10 yrs. Regards Liz Bowral NSW reasearching BOLTON Robert & Ann Smith GODSON William & Ellen - George & Margery GORDON Caroline A & Nelson John Proctor GORDON George & Mary Emmeline Vane GORDON Cyril & Ida May Reynolds GORDON George & Mary Heffernan & Janey Smith KEARINES Ivanhoe S & Emma L.Godson KEARINES Edward & Elizabeth Clayton GODSON William & Ann Parker WATTS John & Elizabeth Norman LARGE Elizabeth M. RATHBONE Mary Ann REYNOLDS Ida May REYNOLDS Daniel VANE ( Waine ) Stephen & Elizabeth Mandeville VANE John & Jane Parker

I am reposting my info in hopes that I can find some information about these people and family. David Stuart born May 28, 1857, Inverbervie died 1920 married Helen Ann Hadden born July 3, 1862, Auchenblar died 1938 Children Mabel Jane Stuart born Feb 26, 1889, Inverbervie married David Thompson Simpson born Aug 19, 1884, Inverbervie Alexander Stuart married Maggie Garvan last address Falkirk Sct Willie Stuart married Fanny Clark Airdrie Sct Maggie Stuart married James Taylor Dundee Sct Any help would be greatly appreciated, Earleen Johnson, Ontario, Canada

Hello all, I am reposting my info as I have been looking for a long time and have not found much information. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Peter Simpson born 1809, Peterculter wife Mary Yule, unknown birth date married Dec 6, 1828, Banchory-Tenan Robert Simpson born, Mar 20, 1836 Fetteresso wife Jane Black born June, 1837, Dunnottar Parents Charles Black and Jane Masson married Nov 24, 1857 Dunnottar Charles Simpson born Jan 15, 1864 Marykirk wife Charlotte Brydon Beedie born Sept 25, 1866 Dunnottar married Nov 29, 1884 Bervie Any help with these people would be wonderful, Thanks Earleen Johnson, Ontario, Canada

Hi list, I am interested to hear from anyone who may be researching the surname Muckart or who has ancestors who had any connection with the surname. The 1800's to the beginning of the 1900's is the time frame I am most interested in and anywhere in Kincardine. TIA. Grant Muckart, Nairn, Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Tom and Jessie, A Margaret Ann Butchart shows up in a search I did of Muckart Households in the 1881 Census. She was working as a domestic servant at Tarryburn House, in St Vigeans, in Forfar. Her age is listed as 17 and her marital status was unknown. I also came across a James Aberdien in another household in the 1881 census. He was lodging in a Lodging House at 52 Cromwell Street, Barony, in Lanark. His occupation is listed as a Draper. He was lodging with John R. Muckart who was also a Draper. James was listed as being born in Aberdeen and was aged 23 at the time. His marital status was unknown. The spelling of the surname Aberdien is different, but I included it anyways.I also have Strachan, Taylor, Christie,and Reid in my line. Grant Muckart, Nairn, Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Tom and Jessie, A Margaret Ann Butchart shows up in a search I did of Muckart Households in the 1881 Census. She was working as a domestic servant at Tarryburn House, in St Vigeans, in Forfar. Her age is listed as 17 and her marital status was unknown. The house _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Tom and Jessie, The name Margaret Ann Butchart shows up in a search I did of Muckart Households in the 1881 Census. She was working as a domestic servant at Tarryburn House, in St Vigeans, in Forfar. Her age is listed as 17 and her marital status was unknown. Her employer's name was John Muckart who was the head of the household and whose occupation was listed as a Preserved Potato manufacturer and Twine spinner. I also came across a James Aberdien in another household in the 1881 census. He was a lodger in a Lodging House in 52 Cromwell Street, Barony, in Lanark. His occupation was listed as a Draper, and he was lodging along with a fellow Draper John R _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Margot, I foolishly left the url for Janet's website out of the email I posted to the list. The link you want is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~connochie/kcd/1841kcdintro.html I have had a quick look to see if I can find any Manzies on the site but I did not see any. Grant Nairn, Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hello, I was wondering if some kind soul with access to either the 1841 or 1851 Census would be so kind as to look up my ggggrandparents who lived in Johnshaven, Kincardineshire. They were: Alexander Lindsay and Anne LIndsay. They had a daughter Susan Lindsay born 1833 (baptised June 3. 1833). Unfortunately I have no other details. Also, could somebody tell me how I might check if either Alexander or Anne are buried in the local churchyard at Johnshaven? Many thanks, Carolyn May

> I haven't listed my interests for some time. Hope some of these names > are > familiar to someone on the list. These are on my maternal side. > > Aberdein, Bridgeford, Burnett, Butchart, Christie, Ewen, Fyfe, > Henderson, > Lennard/Leonard, Malcolm, Masson, Morton, Reid, Strachan, and Taylor. > > Tom Lennie > > Jessie & Tom Lennie > Port Coquitlam BC > Canada > ANEFHS Member > E-Mail [email protected] > Family Tree Web Site > WWW.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/2856 Hi, Tom, I corresponded with Jessie some time ago about Walker Rd. School, Aberdeen. Where are your Massons from - my husband's lot were from Portlethen, Banchory Devenick who later went to Aberdeen. I, myself, have a James Ewen in my father's side. All I know about him is that he was a farm servant at Little Forgue, Forgue, in October 1870 and at Neither Wheidlemont (sic) Auchindoir, in February 1884. On my mother's side, I have a Christian Henderson b. abt. 1833 in Lonmay, m. Ferguson Rennie 22 Oct 1859 in Cruden, and d. Woodside, Aberdeen abt. 1908. Do we have any connections? Regards, Frances Milne nee Dey late of Aberdeen now in Otaki NZ

Hi Elaine, Have you taken a look at Janet Connochie's excellent work on part of the 1841 census? There is a family of seven Blacklaws listed in the index for Laurencekirk and two in the transcription of Garvock. Cheers, Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Liz The best records are here in Oz. There are indexes available and if a convict so much the better as you will get more information. What is the time period? The other item to know is the port of Arrival as this will reduce your search. If you have checked these indexes then it is most likely at the age of 10 it maybe family plus children. I have not found any useful UK based records apart from those made available from Ireland Regards Gerry "Liz (by way of TCF )" wrote: > > Hi All , > Can some kind person tell me where I can find shipping lists coming to > Aus from Scotland ( Kincardine O'Neil area ). > I want both convict ships and Immagration ships, I am trying to find > how an ancester arrived age abt 10 yrs. > > Regards > Liz > Bowral NSW > > reasearching > BOLTON Robert & Ann Smith > GODSON William & Ellen - George & Margery > GORDON Caroline A & Nelson John Proctor > GORDON George & Mary Emmeline Vane > GORDON Cyril & Ida May Reynolds > GORDON George & Mary Heffernan & Janey Smith > KEARINES Ivanhoe S & Emma L.Godson > KEARINES Edward & Elizabeth Clayton > GODSON William & Ann Parker > WATTS John & Elizabeth Norman > LARGE Elizabeth M. > RATHBONE Mary Ann > REYNOLDS Ida May > REYNOLDS Daniel > VANE ( Waine ) Stephen & Elizabeth Mandeville > VANE John & Jane Parker > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Dear Tom, I have MASSON in my tree, but do not know where the family originated - Janet MASSON born around 1803 , married 1821 in Elgin, Moray, SCT to one James GRANT If you think there may be the slightest chance, please get in touch - Thanx.... Kindest regards Naomi - in Sydney Australia > > Aberdein, Bridgeford, Burnett, Butchart, Christie, Ewen, Fyfe, Henderson, > Lennard/Leonard, Malcolm, Masson, Morton, Reid, Strachan, and Taylor. > > Tom Lennie >

Hi Frances, I have Massons on two branches who may be connected to each other, but so far have not found the link. I have William Masson who married Ann Leiper, April 16, 1837 in Banchory Devenick. They had three children that I have found. William, Margaret Leys and John, all born in Banchory Devenick. Margaret Leys Masson married James Bridgeford. I have a Christian Masson who married Thomas Christie in Birse, Aberdeenshire. I do not know where she was born. Their children were born in Echt, Banchory Ternan amd Maryculter. Re Ewen, I have Margaret Ewen who married Thomas Christie, the grandson of the above Thomas Christie. They seem to have been from the Echt, Aberdeenshire area. There are 5 James Ewens who appear to be connected to her, and are either from Echt, Cluny or Forfar. I have a Thomas Henderson who married Barbara Aberdein. He was from Crimmond, with family born in St. Nicholas. Thomas 's father was Ann Mason. Hope you find something that will help us both. Jessie says Hi. Tom Jessie & Tom Lennie Port Coquitlam BC Canada ANEFHS Member E-Mail [email protected] Family Tree Web Site WWW.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/2856 -----Original Message----- From: Ian and Frances Milne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October 27, 2001 2:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-KINCARDINE] Re: Aberdeenshire & Kincardineshire connections Hi, Tom, I corresponded with Jessie some time ago about Walker Rd. School, Aberdeen. Where are your Massons from - my husband's lot were from Portlethen, Banchory Devenick who later went to Aberdeen. I, myself, have a James Ewen in my father's side. All I know about him is that he was a farm servant at Little Forgue, Forgue, in October 1870 and at Neither Wheidlemont (sic) Auchindoir, in February 1884. On my mother's side, I have a Christian Henderson b. abt. 1833 in Lonmay, m. Ferguson Rennie 22 Oct 1859 in Cruden, and d. Woodside, Aberdeen abt. 1908. Do we have any connections? Regards, Frances Milne nee Dey late of Aberdeen now in Otaki NZ ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

I haven't listed my interests for some time. Hope some of these names are familiar to someone on the list. These are on my maternal side. Aberdein, Bridgeford, Burnett, Butchart, Christie, Ewen, Fyfe, Henderson, Lennard/Leonard, Malcolm, Masson, Morton, Reid, Strachan, and Taylor. Tom Lennie Jessie & Tom Lennie Port Coquitlam BC Canada ANEFHS Member E-Mail [email protected] Family Tree Web Site WWW.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/2856

A long time ago I found a headstone in a very old transcript of the Fettercairn monument inscriptions that is quite different to that in the popular "Pre 1855 Inscriptions..." and the Fettercairn Monument Inscriptions from the 1960's. It appears that the text on the headstone eroded quite badly. The transcript was date 1929 (I think). The transcript that I am looking for has an inscription for John Aikenhead. It gives his wife's name and some important dates. What I would like is the reference to the transcript so that I can find it again and also the full text of John Aikenhead's inscription. In case I have been unclear. I already have the text from the otherwise excellent Pre 1855 Incriptions book. It is the earlier transcript that I am looking for. Regards Steve Nethercote

Excuse me? Why do you think the Isobella who bore children in 1839 would have been too old to bear a child in 1850? What imbecile said that? (gosh, I hope it wasn't your mother or your husband!) My 4-g grandmother in Angus bore her first child in 1740 at roughly 26 years. She bore her last - the tenth -child at 45 and she lived until 80. My 3-g grandmother in Nova Scotis bore her first child in 1792 at age 22 and her last - also the tenth - at age 41 in 1811, living another 25 years. Women weren't wimps in those days .. . they didn't have epidurals or C-sections, and they didn't have either contraception or RU-235. Many died in childbirth and many lived long and fruitful (literally) lives. I can't say whether Isabella did or didn't take in a child of a relative and I won't interpret the records but I am certainly confused regarding your problem accepting the possibility that he was her child simply based on age. My advice is to accept it as written unless and until you find some real discrepancy in the records or some other indication that he was not her child. Keep on truckin' ! At 07:54 PM 10/20/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hello everyone :) >The information below is from the 1881 census. On the LDS site John Mcabe >born 12 Jan 1850 to "Isobella" Dallas & Peter McKelbie. In the 1851, 1861, >and 1871 census John is living with my "Isabella" Dallas. I am wondering if >Isobella & Isabella are the same person. My Isabella also had illegitimate >triplets in 30 Nov. 1839, she never married, I found her in the 1881 census >age 71 still unmarried. >I have been told that my Isabella was to old to have given birth to John, and >had probably taken John in, and that he was an illegitmate child of a cousin >of Isabella's. She would have only been 40 years old, at the time of John's >birth. >Dwelling: 5 Darlington Pl > Census Place: Aberdeen St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203445 GRO Ref Volume 168-1 EnumDist 39 >Page 25 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace >John MC CABE M 31 M Stonehaven, Kincardine, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Seaman (M S) >Isabella MC CABE M 32 F St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Wife >David C. MC CABE U 6 M St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar >Margaret D. MC CABE 2 F St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Dau >John MC CABE 3 m M St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland > Rel: Son >Any help, would be greatly appreciated >Thanks. >Jill :) >Nanaimo, BC > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2