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Hello Listers This is a copy of a letter from the Mearns Leader a local paper in the Stonehaven area that may interest anyone researching the surname Ritchie in the North East. Alex. Gray "Mystery Of Former Surname Solved . This may be of interest to readers of the Leader as it probably relates to the ancestry of a large number of local residents. Years ago when 1 started researching my family tree (Ritchie) 1 found it reasonably easy to get back to 1782 which was a marriage in Bervie of an ancestor John Ritchie of Gourdon to lsobal Freeman of Kinneff. I then became stuck in trying to find who this person's parents were. 1 then was informed by Robert Gove in Gourdon of the Ritchies being named Fatt and which 1 thought may have been a nickname common among fishermen. He also said there was strange talk of a murder after which the Fatts changed their name to Ritchie. Mr Gove could throw no further light on the matter other than the story had been passed down through generations in Gourdon. It has taken me a number of years trying to figure this out but thanks to the world wide web l have now got to the bottom of the mystery. Followers the reformed church established in 1550 by John Calvin were known in France as Hugenots and described as heretics by the Roman Catholic Church. A general edict of 1536 encouraged the extermination of Hugenots and 1200 were murdered in Vassy, France in 1562. During the infamous St Bartholomew massacre in 1572, 8000 Hugenots were murdered in Paris. Because of the aforesaid, Iarge numbers of surviving Hugenots fled France prior to 1600. A list of Hugenot surnames has been published and it was there that 1 discovered the name Fatt as being one of the Hugenot surnames and which fitted in with the dates which 1 had of Fatts in the Mearns. The first mention the name Fatt is in the parish of Fetteresso, Stonehaven prior to 1622. Then the name appears in the Kinneff and Bervie Parish records about 1660 and again in Milton, St Cyrus and also in Montrose. The details of marriages and. christenings in Bervie Parish are recorded under the surname Fatt and also Ritchie and by the middle to the end of 1700s the name Fatt had disappeared to be replaced by Ritchie. There are a large number of websites containing Hugenot material and for anyone interested it is all there, along with lists of other Hugenot surnames."

In three successive generation I have a CHAPMAN woman marrying a William KEITH, is any-one researching the Keith family in Kincardine? I have Jean Chapman b 26/6/1790 marrying William Keith 3/1/1819 - daughter Elizabeth Mary Chapman, birthdate unknown marrying William Keith 16/10/1836 (3 children) and then their son William Keith marrying his cousin Jane Edward Chapman in 1861. Any connections would be welcome. Lyn Dalley Rotorua, New Zealand.

I have no relationship to this family. Kilsyth is in Stirlingshire not Renfrewshire. 1881 census Vessel: "Pelican" Census Place: Kirkmaiden, Wigtown, Great Britain Source: FHL Film 0224065 GRO Ref Volume 890 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Peter JOHNSTON M 30 M Port William, Wigtown, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Master George CATHCART M 27 M Kirkinner, Wigtown, Scotland Occ: Mate Malcolm NICHLSEN M 34 M Kilmuir, Inverness, Scotland Occ: A.B. Seaman Alexander JOHNSTON U 17 M Glassertin, Wigtown, Scotland Occ: A.B. Seaman John JARVIE M 40 M Wilsyth, Stirling, Scotland Occ: Engineer Robert MC FEAT M 24 M Glasgow Occ: Fireman However there is this!!!! Dwelling: 7 Lady Stairs Close Census Place: Edinburgh Tolbooth, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 28 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John JARVIE M 36 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Cooper Eliza JARVIE M 35 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Cooper Wife Catherine JARVIE 9 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Sarah JARVIE 6 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Joseph JARVIE 3 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Eliza JARVIE 1 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Maybe you have the wrong John??????? cheers Ron >Greetings, > >I am looking for ancestors, siblings and descendants of Eliza Bell and John Jarvie. > >Eliza was from West Port, Edinburgh, Scotland > >John was from Kilsyth, Renfrewshire, Scotland. > >Here is what I have; > >Descendants of Eliza Bell > > > >1 Eliza Bell b: Aft. 1846 in West Port, Edinburgh, Scotland > >.. +John Jarvie b: Abt. 1845 in Kilsyth, Renfrewshire, Scotland m: 20-April-1887 in 9 Bristo Place, Edinburgh, Scotland > >........ 2 Sarah Jarvie Bell aka: Sarah Jarvie b: 03-May-1874 in 54 Lauriston Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland > >............ +Michael Whalen b: Abt. 1876 m: 19-April-1895 in Saint Columbas Church, Johnston Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland > >........ 2 James Jarvie b: 15-May-1888 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh > >........ 2 Joseph Ritchie Jarvie b: 09-February-1878 in Lady Stairs Close, Lawnmarket, Edinburgh > >............ +Jane Hay b: Abt. 1879 m: 31-December-1896 in Saint Columbus Church, Johnston Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland > >........ 2 Thomas Jarvie b: 10-August-1885 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh > >........ 2 John Jarvie b: 18-August-1882 in Lady Stairs Close, Lawnmarket, Edinburgh > >........ 2 Eliza Jarvie b: Abt. 1879 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh d: 03-October-1884 > > > > >Any insights are greatly appreciated. > >Thank you. > >Regards, > >R.W. Rick Redmond >Chester, UK (formerly of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) >[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get your free @ecosse.net account http://www.ecosse.net Scotland's Free Internet Service Provider * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Greetings, I am looking for ancestors, siblings and descendants of Eliza Bell and John Jarvie. Eliza was from West Port, Edinburgh, Scotland John was from Kilsyth, Renfrewshire, Scotland. Here is what I have; Descendants of Eliza Bell 1 Eliza Bell b: Aft. 1846 in West Port, Edinburgh, Scotland .. +John Jarvie b: Abt. 1845 in Kilsyth, Renfrewshire, Scotland m: 20-April-1887 in 9 Bristo Place, Edinburgh, Scotland ........ 2 Sarah Jarvie Bell aka: Sarah Jarvie b: 03-May-1874 in 54 Lauriston Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland ............ +Michael Whalen b: Abt. 1876 m: 19-April-1895 in Saint Columbas Church, Johnston Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland ........ 2 James Jarvie b: 15-May-1888 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh ........ 2 Joseph Ritchie Jarvie b: 09-February-1878 in Lady Stairs Close, Lawnmarket, Edinburgh ............ +Jane Hay b: Abt. 1879 m: 31-December-1896 in Saint Columbus Church, Johnston Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland ........ 2 Thomas Jarvie b: 10-August-1885 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh ........ 2 John Jarvie b: 18-August-1882 in Lady Stairs Close, Lawnmarket, Edinburgh ........ 2 Eliza Jarvie b: Abt. 1879 in Old Assembly Close, High Street, Edinburgh d: 03-October-1884 Any insights are greatly appreciated. Thank you. Regards, R.W. Rick Redmond Chester, UK (formerly of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) [email protected]

Would some-one be able to look up Jean Chapman (nee Lyon) who was seemingly living in Dunnottar in 1851 as a very old lady ? I would appreciate any help you can give with this one as she is a bit of a mystery. We don't know where or when she was born or married. thanks to all those who do these lookups - its such a huge help to those of us who are scattered around the world, but have roots in Scotland. Lyn Dalley Rotorua, New Zealand.

I have discovered that my ancestor Roger Chapman around 1790 was a coachman working for the Barclays at Ury House which I understand to be just outside Stonehaven. I have very little information on him, except that he married Jean Lyon and their children were born from 1777 to 1790. Mary, 1777 in Monikie John, 1778 in Monikie - married Jane Edward Robert, 1780 in Fetteresso, died 1855 Charles 1782 Fetteresso, married Mary Wood Elizabeth 1784 Fetteresso, Jean 1790 Fetteresso - married William Keith I would appreciate any information, particularly on Roger & Jean as there do not appear to be baptismal or marriage records for them. If any-one can find them on a census I would be grateful. Lyn Dalley Rotorua, New Zealand [email protected]

Hi Rick (and anyone else with DONALD ancestors) I have some DONALD ancestors which may tie in with yours at some point, but I can't see the connection yet. Here it is: William DONALD. He married Janet SNOWIE, 28 Apr 1743, in Echt, Aberdeen, Scotland. I. Margaret DONALD. She married John COOPER, 3 Dec 1765, in Drumoak, Aberdeen, Scotland. II. Jean DONALD. III. William DONALD. IV. Janet DONALD. V. Barbara DONALD. VI. Alexander DONALD. He married Elspet REID, Apr 24 1789, in Drumoak, Aberdeen, Scotland, (daughter of Alexander REID and Elspet CUSHNIE). Alexander died bef 1865. A. Janet DONALD, b. circa Dec 1790, Nigg, Kincardine, Scotland. She married James STEWART, 4 Apr 1812, in Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland, b. circa 1790, (son of John STEWART and Christian KEIR) d. 11 Sep 1860, buried: Sept 1860, Portlethen, Kincardine, Scotland. Janet died 31 May 1865, Heathfield, Portlethen, Scotland, buried: June 1865, Portlethen cemetery, Scotland. 1. James STEWART, b. 3 Dec 1811, Banchory, Kincardine, Scotland. He married Isabella WILSON. James died 27 Jan 1881. 2. John STEWART, b. 10 Aug 1813, Banchory, Kincardine, Scotland. He married Anne WRIGHT, 22 Feb 1834, in Banchory, Kincardine, Scotland, b. 5 May 1813, Banchory, Kincardine, Scotland, (daughter of Henry WRIGHT and Anne MIDDLETON). a. Harry STEWART, b. circa 1834. b. Anne STEWART, b. circa 1836. c. Jessy STEWART, b. circa 1838, d. 23 Dec 1848. d. Elizabeth STEWART, b. circa 1840. e. Isobel STEWART, b. circa 1840, d. circa 1840, buried: Portlethen, Kincardine, Scotland. f. Elspet STEWART, b. circa 1843. g. Isabella STEWART, b. circa 1845. h. William STEWART, b. circa 1847. i. John STEWART, b. circa 1849. j. James STEWART, b. circa 1852. k. Mary Hunter STEWART, b. circa 1854, d. circa 1854, buried: Portlethen, Kincardine, Scotland. l. David Hamilton STEWART, b. 24 Apr 1856, Banchory, Kincardine, Scotland. He married Charlotte Maude FULLER, 20 Oct 1980, in Rangiora, New Zealand, b. 28 Feb 1861, Kaiapoi, Canterbury, New Zealand, (daughter of John FULLER and Jane Elizabeth ROBERTS) d. after 1929, Heretaunga, Wellington, New Zealand. David died 19 Apr 1920, Heretaunga, Wellington, New Zealand, buried: 21 April 1920, Church cemetery, Trentham, New Zealand. 3. Robert STEWART, b. 11 Sep 1815, d. circa 1815, buried: Portlethen, Kincardine, Scotland. 4. Elspet STEWART, b. circa 1819. 5. William STEWART, b. circa 1821. 6. Janet STEWART, b. circa 1823. 7. George STEWART, b. circa 1825. 8. Robert STEWART, b. circa 1827. 9. Andrew STEWART, b. circa 1829, d. circa 1829, buried: Portlethen, Kincardine, Scotland. 10. Ann STEWART, b. circa 1831. She married Alexander KEITH, 17 Mar 1855, in Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. Ann died 20 May 1864, Raedykes, Riccarton, Scotland, buried: Portlethen cemetery, Scotland. a. Ann Jessie KEITH. b. Mary KEITH, b. circa 1857, d. 18 Aug 1861, Raedykes, Riccarton, nr Stonehaven. c. Alexander KEITH. B. James DONALD. C. Margaret DONALD. D. Alexander DONALD. E. Elspet DONALD. She married John KNOWLES, 7 Oct 1826, in Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland, (son of John KNOWLES and Elizabeth AIRTH) d. 4 June 1853, Findon, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. Elspet died 19 July 1873, Kincardine, Scotland, buried: Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. 1. Janet KNOWLES. 2. Elizabeth KNOWLES, d. bef May 1834. 3. John KNOWLES. He married Margaret GILLESPIE, 31 Dec 1861, in Kincardine, O'Neil, Aberdeen, Scotland, b. circa 1835, Kincardine, O'Neil, Aberdeen, Scotland. 4. Elizabeth KNOWLES. 5. Margaret KNOWLES, buried: Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. 6. James KNOWLES. 7. Joseph KNOWLES. He married Isabella UNKNOWN, b. circa 1844, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. 8. Isobel KNOWLES, b. 16 Nov 1842, Findon, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. She married John ANDERSON, 2 Dec 1881, in Scotland, b. 17 Sept 1840, Logie, Aberdeen, Scotland, d. Windyedge, Cooknet, Kincardine, Scotland. 9. William KNOWLES, b. 12 Feb 1847, Findon, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. He married Anne LEIPER, 12 June 1868, in Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland, b. circa 1849, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. a. Margaret KNOWLES, b. 10 Oct 1869, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. b. William KNOWLES, b. 21 June 1872, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. c. Anne Leiper KNOWLES, b. 4 July 1874, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. d. John E KNOWLES, b. circa 1877, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. e. Joseph A KNOWLES, b. circa 1879, Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland. F. William DONALD. Let me know if you can see any links Jo Myers in New Zealand

Greetings. I am a descendant (Grandson) of Margaret Alice Brown (b. 05/March/1899; Lindsayfield, Dunnottar, Kincardine, Scotland). She is the sister of Jessie, Alexander, Norman Douglas, David, Eva, Harry, Bessie, Charlotte, Robert and Ive Brown. Their parents were Alexander Brown (b. 01/Feb/1867; Bogside Parish, Fordun, Kincardine, Scotland) and Jessie Main Donald (b. 20/June/1873; Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland). His parents were David Brown (b. 24/Aug/1823) and Jane Allan (b. 15/Jan/1826). Her parents were James Donald (b. 20/May/1835; Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland) and Margaret Lawson (b. abt. 1837). The surnames of families before all of these are Crab (Crabb), Gray, Lawson, Browster, Gauld, Johnston, Allan, Wright, Shearer, Limond and Henry. Margaret Alice Brown married William Tankard Bell from Midlothian. My Grandfather was a William Tankard Bell (b. 23/Oct/1866, d. 18/Aug/1945), however his original name in Edinburgh, Edinburgh Parish, Midlothian, Scotland was William Bell Tankard. His father and mother were William Tankard Sr. (b. abt. 1845, d. abt. 1872) & Eliza Bell. His sisters were Sarah Jane Scott Tankard and Catherine Duncan Tankard. William Tankard Bell came to Canada; a short time in Montreal, then to Watford, Ontario (about 1883/84) and finally, until his death lived in Port Stanley, Ontario. William Tankard Sr.'s parents were William (John) Tankard and Sarah Scott. Sarah Scott eventually was married a 2nd time to a Joseph Jarvie. Sarah Scott's parents were John Scott & Ann Gardner. Sarah & Joseph Jarvie had a son John. John Jarvie eventually married Eliza Bell when William Tankard died. Eliza Bell was the daughter of William (John??) Bell & Mary Ann Chisholm. William (John) Tankard was the son of unknown?? William (John) Tankard was a mariner. Prior to showing up in Scotland in about 1840, there appears to be no other Tankards in Scotland. I would be most grateful to hear from any one researching any of my Families, but especially the Brown's, Donald's, Bell's & Tankard's. Thanks!! Regards, R.W. Rick Redmond Chester, UK (formerly of Edmonton, Alberta) [email protected] (Please note; this is a new e-mail address from previous postings.)

Dear Sir, Information regarding the surnames Harrow&Thow. Both were from the Howe of the Mearns, involved in agriculture possibly at the turn of the century. Thank-you, W,A,Harrow.

Hello, I'm back to the list again. (Rumour has it although I am confirming through a slew of death marriage and birth certs just sent for) that my LEES may have come from Fetteresso Parish, prior to Montrose. If you have any connections to this line, please let me know. Jamie LEES CANADA RESEARCHING: LEES, MATHEWSON, MC/MACDONALD, PETRIE-SMITH, THOM, BUCHAN from Dundee, Arbroath, Forfar, Glamis, Montrose, Fetteresso Parish Scotland. PA and MI in the USA, and ONTARIO and QUEBEC CANADA Generation 1 Andrew LEES (My great great great grandfather) b. abt. 1816 married Jul 26 1840 Montrose Angus, Scotland d. Nov. 28 1848 at 32 *Interred at Rosehill Cemetery Montrose, Angus Scotland Gravesite #17 Wife of above: Jane Mathewson b. abt. 1816 d. Dec. 26 1859 at 43 Children of Andrew and Jane (Possibly there are more children) Margaret LEES b. 1843 Montrose Angus, Scotland d. May 3 1899 at 56 89 Arbroath St. Dundee Scotland Andrew LEES b. 1849 Montrose Angus Scotland d. ? Generation 2 Andrew LEES (My great great grandfather) b. 1849 Montrose Angus Scotland d. ? married Dec. 1 1871 Forfar Angus, Scotland Wife of above: Mary Hay MacDonald b. Aug. 6 1848 d. ? Forfar Angus, Scotland Children of Andrew and Mary Elizabeth Jane LEES b. Mar. 19 1874 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? Mary LEES b. 1877 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? Andrew LEES b. 1878 Forfar Angus Scotland d. John M. LEES b. 1880 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? Isabella LEES b. 1882 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? William M. LEES b. 1890 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? Generation 3 Andrew LEES (My great grandfather) b. Dec. 26 1878 Forfar Angus Scotland d. ? married Apr. 11 1912 Kingston Ontario Canada Wife of above: Mary Clark /Petrie Smith b. Sept. 18 1888 d. Feb. 19 1971 Arbroath Angus Scotland Children of Andrew and Mary James Burns LEES b. Aprox. 1912 in Kingston On Canada d. Aprox 1930 in Macaza Quebec Canada Adolphe Shoutte LEES b. Feb. 1 1914 Hoboken, NJ USA d. Apr. 8 1996 McGregor On Canada Andrew Clark LEES b. Apr. 24 1928 Montreal Quebec Canada d. Mar. 24 1999 Rough & Ready CA USA Generation 4 Adolphe Shoutte LEES (My grandfather) b. Feb. 1 1914 Hoboken, NJ USA d. Apr. 8 1996 McGregor On Canada married Dec. 31 19 Wife of above: Esther Ellen Lawless b. Dec. 31 1919 d. still living Children of Adolphe and Esther James Burns LEES (my father) b. April 21 1939 Kingston On Canada d. still living Andrea LEES b. Aug. 2 1940 d. 1987

Hi Bruce, This may or may not be of any use, here goes. I have a William Muckart marrying a Lavinia Austin Hampton in Brechin in 1871. They appear on the 1881 census living at 44 St David Street, in Brechin but William is dead by the time they appear on the next census in 1891. Strangely enough they are listed living just two doors down at 46 St. David Street, Brechin. William died in 1890. Lavinia's father is in the house on the day of the '91 census and his birth parish is listed as Fettercairn. His age is given as 83 or 85. That would give him a birth date of about 1808-10. It is just possible he could be a relative of your Hamptons. I also have Smiths marrying into the Muckart family, but I will have to hunt for the info. Happy New Year. Grant Muckart Nairn Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hi Maggie, Marykirk and Garvock are approx. 4 miles apart as the crow flies. I believe the Elisabeth Muchart you have found is the daughter of John Muckart and Catherine Smith. He was farming at Bradieston in Garvock at the time. I am actively engaged in compiling a family tree for the Muckart surname and have found the surname spelt in 3 different ways. These are Muckart/Muchart/Muckhart and are frequently used interchangeably. There is a record of an Elisabeth Muchart marrying a John McDonald in Aberdeen on the 21 Dec. 1847. This may well be the same person.I have been trying to get in touch with you for some time since seeing your post on another website. I would very much like get in touch and I am more than willing to share any info on Muckart family history. Cheers. Grant Muckart Nairn Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Could anyone help me with my family. Alexander Hampton married Mary Burnes 18c. A daughter Mary Hampton born 1791 in Laurencekirk, married William Ross of Fettercairn, in 1812 Laurnecekirk. They had 4 children John Ross 1813,Mary Ross 1814 (Fettercairn) Alexander Ross 1823, & James Ross 1825,John,Alexander,& James all born Laurencekirk. John Ross married Mary Smith of Laurencekirk in 1835 in Montrose. Any help would be appreciated as I am at a dead end!!! Bruce Ross

Hi List, i am new to this list. just a general question I have on the 1881 census Elizabeth McDonald maiden name Muchart who is born at Marykirk. Kincardine aged 56 years and on the IGI I have found a christening for a Elizabeth Muchart 1830 at Garvock Kincardine are these two places near? and could this be the Elizabeth I am looking for? any advise would be greatly appreciated Cheers Maggie in australia [email protected]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone, Best wishes Ruth Edwards

Hello Listers Was your ancestor a Scottish Freemason? If he was, why not have a look at www.carstairs.org.uk/masonic/guide/address.html and you will find a list of all the Masonic Lodges in Scotland, (Note the number on the left is the number of the Lodge) To make enquiry regarding your ancestor all you have to do is write to The Lodge Secretary at the name and address listed and he should be able to check the Roll Book and give you the following information;- 1. Name and address at date of joining 2. Occupation 3. Age 4. Date he received his various degrees (1st or Entered Apprentice, 2nd or Fellowcraft, 3rd or Master Mason and Mark Master Mason) 5. Offices held by him in the Lodge. 6. Some Lodges may also be able to tell who Proposed and Seconded your ancestor. If the Lodge you are looking for is not listed, do not despair, when a Lodge goes defunct their books etc are retained by the Grand Lodge of Scotland and you should direct your enquiries to them at [email protected] This site also gives you limited information regarding Royal Arch Masonry and has links to the Grand Lodge of Scotland and other Masonic Organisations. Regards Alex. Gray A Scottish Freemason

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