This maybe your David. David BAIN Sex: M Event(s): Christening: 13 Mar 1793 Craig By Montrose, Angus, Scotland Parents: Father: David BAIN Mother: Agnes GREIG >Hello everyone, > >I am new to this list & somewhat confused geographically about what is in Angus, what is in Kincardine & what is Aberdeenshire. > >I am looking for MARY REID who married DAVID BAIN around 1818. > >I can find no record of their marriage on Scots Origins, but I have found there the birth dates of the 13 children they produced between 1819 & 1844, all born at NIGG, Kincardine. > >Mary Reid was 81 at the time of the 1881 census, & gave her birthplace as Montrose, Kincardine, (which I thought was in Angus). Her daughter ELIZABETH (born 1831) gives her place of birth as COVE, Kincardine, whilst Scots Origins places it at >NIGG. > >I hope you understand my confusion. > >I think Mary Reid MIGHT be the daughter of ROBERT REID & ELIZABETH CATENACH, born 24 May 1802 at Arbuthnot, Kincardine, but have no confirmation of this. (I just want to be descended from someone with the wonderful name Catenach!) > >I know nothing about David BAIN except that he was a seaman & then a coastguard, & in 1850 - 55 was stationed at Collieston, SLAINS, Aberdeen. > >I would be grateful for any information anyone might have on the above names, or just a simple explanation for the discrepancies in birth & census entries. > >As I live up a mountain in Italy personal research is rather limited. > >Liz Wilde >Coreglia Antelminelli >Toscana, Italy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get your free @ecosse.net account http://www.ecosse.net Scotland's Free Internet Service Provider * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hi, I found this on the IGI at www.familysearch.org Mary REID Sex: F Marriage(s): Spouse: David BAIN Marriage: 28 Mar 1819 Montrose, Angus, Scotland >Hello everyone, > >I am new to this list & somewhat confused geographically about what is in Angus, what is in Kincardine & what is Aberdeenshire. > >I am looking for MARY REID who married DAVID BAIN around 1818. > >I can find no record of their marriage on Scots Origins, but I have found there the birth dates of the 13 children they produced between 1819 & 1844, all born at NIGG, Kincardine. > >Mary Reid was 81 at the time of the 1881 census, & gave her birthplace as Montrose, Kincardine, (which I thought was in Angus). Her daughter ELIZABETH (born 1831) gives her place of birth as COVE, Kincardine, whilst Scots Origins places it at >NIGG. > >I hope you understand my confusion. > >I think Mary Reid MIGHT be the daughter of ROBERT REID & ELIZABETH CATENACH, born 24 May 1802 at Arbuthnot, Kincardine, but have no confirmation of this. (I just want to be descended from someone with the wonderful name Catenach!) > >I know nothing about David BAIN except that he was a seaman & then a coastguard, & in 1850 - 55 was stationed at Collieston, SLAINS, Aberdeen. > >I would be grateful for any information anyone might have on the above names, or just a simple explanation for the discrepancies in birth & census entries. > >As I live up a mountain in Italy personal research is rather limited. > >Liz Wilde >Coreglia Antelminelli >Toscana, Italy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get your free @ecosse.net account http://www.ecosse.net Scotland's Free Internet Service Provider * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Would a James Pearson appear on aCensus 1851 or earlier for Durris/Durrin Kincairdinshire. Could someone help me please with this look up, Angie

Hello Liz The death certificate for Mary REID should list who her parents were, providing that the informant knew who the parents were. If you obtain a copy of the death cert, that might provide you with the answer to that question. As for the census information; often the enumerators just wrote done whatever the informant told them...the informant might be the farm servant, the owner of the property or even the youngster who was at home when the enumerator got there. Montrose is in Angus. There is a 'Cove Bay' in the parish of Nigg, in the county of Kincardineshire....Kincardineshire borders Aberdeenshire. There are sites on the Internet that show the parish maps for the Northeast of Scotland. This is the best way to figure out where everything is. There should be a link on the following page.... http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ Kind regards, Linda Lumsden, SK Canada > > > Mary Reid was 81 at the time of the 1881 census, & gave her birthplace as Montrose, Kincardine, (which I thought was in Angus). Her daughter ELIZABETH (born 1831) gives her place of birth as COVE, Kincardine, whilst Scots Origins places it at NIGG. >

Hello everyone, I am new to this list & somewhat confused geographically about what is in Angus, what is in Kincardine & what is Aberdeenshire. I am looking for MARY REID who married DAVID BAIN around 1818. I can find no record of their marriage on Scots Origins, but I have found there the birth dates of the 13 children they produced between 1819 & 1844, all born at NIGG, Kincardine. Mary Reid was 81 at the time of the 1881 census, & gave her birthplace as Montrose, Kincardine, (which I thought was in Angus). Her daughter ELIZABETH (born 1831) gives her place of birth as COVE, Kincardine, whilst Scots Origins places it at NIGG. I hope you understand my confusion. I think Mary Reid MIGHT be the daughter of ROBERT REID & ELIZABETH CATENACH, born 24 May 1802 at Arbuthnot, Kincardine, but have no confirmation of this. (I just want to be descended from someone with the wonderful name Catenach!) I know nothing about David BAIN except that he was a seaman & then a coastguard, & in 1850 - 55 was stationed at Collieston, SLAINS, Aberdeen. I would be grateful for any information anyone might have on the above names, or just a simple explanation for the discrepancies in birth & census entries. As I live up a mountain in Italy personal research is rather limited. Liz Wilde Coreglia Antelminelli Toscana, Italy

I have been having problems with the site for a few days now. The submission form isn't working and links thru to each data page aren't there. I'm trying to fix this asap, but the site could be down for another week. I will post to the list again when all is well. Cheers Sue

Looking for descendents of: Alexander GRANT & Margaret AIKENHEAD in Edzell In later years their children lived in Cairne St, Arbroath & St Vigeans James GRANT & Jean AITKENHEAD in Marykirk, Kincardine David GRANT & Ann BURNETT in Marykirk, Kincardine One of them lived in “Square Letham” (wherever that is) in the late 1800’s or early 1900’s Regards Steve Nethercote

Martha Milne RITCHIE lived at 32 Nethergate, Crail in 1959 but was a proprietrix of a store in Gourdon. I would like to learn what her parents' names were; I believe, she was part of my family line.

Annie Henderson Ritchie lived at 134 Bridge Street, Gourdon, in 1959. Would like to chat with anyone who has information about this woman or her family.

To friends and family: The volume of my email dropped dramatically this last week. Then a friend said her emails to me were returned as undeliverable. We have checked with our internet provider and are assured the address "[email protected]" is still good and they know of no reason why the emails should be bouncing. If you have sent something in the last couple of weeks, please send it again since it may have not gotten through. If you continue to received bounced messages from me, please forward them to Ron's email address "[email protected]" Texas.net tells us with the codes and wording of the messages they may be able to figure out why messages to be began to suddenly be returned to the sender. Thanks for you help. Look forward to hearing from you all again.

Hi Bill The Scottish Census dates were 7 June 1841 31 March 1851 8 April 1861 3 April 1871 4 April 1881 Sorry I don't have the 1891 and 1901 to hand. Regards Alex. Gray

At 03:15 AM 03/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: > "Bill Murphy" <[email protected]> Here are the census dates Bill. Hope it helps. Ann 1841 British Census taken June 7 1851 March 31 1861 April 8 1871 April 3 1881 April 3 1891 April 5

Trying to find birthplace and parents for Barbara Smith, b abt 1818, married 5 Dec 1835, at Banchory Devenick, to William Anderson. They had three children, Julia, born 18 Oct 1836, christened at Old Machar, Aberdeenshire, William, born 27 Dec 1843 and Catherine, born 23 May 1848, both christened at Banchory Devenick. Her gravestone shows first name as "Barbery". Any help will be most appreciated. Thank you, John. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Does anyone have ties to the SCOTT's of St cyrus? I am attempting to piece the SCOTT families of this area together. Would love the info etc you may have on your familes - especially those which date 1700-1850's. Thank you Cristine NZ

Hi: I am not sure if I am sending this to the correct email? I would like to change my receipt to individual messages please. Sometimes I like to print out a message and don't know how to edit from the Digest. Thanks Jennifer Ryan

I am wondering if anyone has any information on Elspet Thomson and Joseph Middleton.They were married 12/27/1812 in Maryculter,Kincardineshire. Also-I'm looking for the Rennie name. I have Catherine Rennie born 1800 and died 3/26/1863 in Banchory Ternan,Kincardineshire.Her father was Robert Rennie. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Any idea what month this census was taken. cheers Bill

Ken, Thanks for helping to clear up some of my errors in response to Alex. I feel terrible having given misinformed information. After my response to Alex I did learn that things had changed quite a bit around Stonehaven. That it indeed was absorbed into Aberdeenshire now. I lived there in the late 70's and early 80's, which explains why I didn't know about this. It happened after I moved from there. I was married in Stonehaven in 1981, and moved back to the USA shortly thereafter. On the second note you made about Dunnottar Castle... yes it is intimately connected with Stonehaven, and again I was wrong about the boundaries. I thought I did say that the Dunnottar parish (church and all) was still in existence, but I guess I didn't realize as a teenager when I was there that it was not part of Stonehaven. I remember going to the harbor at Stonehaven and climbing the cliffs (dangerous stunt I know), up to the pillars that stand on the hill, so I just wasn't very clear about the technical boundaries. You seem to be very up to scruff on your history about the Dunnottar Castle and the area, and thank you so much for clearing this up for both me and Alex. I am CC this email to Alex to apologize for any misleading information I gave him. As for Rabbie Burns, once again I am corrected. This will teach me to speak before I look at my records for accuracy. I guess there is lots of conflicting information that I gave to Alex or anyone else reading my email. I do apologize and will be more careful in the future about writing to the group with my limited knowledge. Thanks again Ken, Dianne -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:14:35 -0500 From: "Dianne Hendrix" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Hi Alex, I suspect the census record was listing both Perthshire and Dunnottar as a birth place because the person giving the information to the census taker didn't know which was the actual birthplace. I lived in Stonehaven (which is in Kincardinshire not Aberdeenshire). I have been to Dunnottar Castle, which is actually now part of Stonehaven, but was once a part of the Dunnottar "parish" , and in fact the church is still there etc., in Kincardinshire, but doubt it was ever PERTHSHIRE. There are 60 - 80 miles in between the two areas. My mother is Scottish born and raised, and has many books on the areas of both Kincardineshire and Perthshire. Also in response to your question about Rabbie Burns... yes he was born in Kincardinshire and his family is from that area. They were farmers just outside Stonehaven. I am a distant cousin. I have a document with the genealogy lines showing the relationship. There is also a man who has a web site with much more information on the Burns family, but can't remember the site address right now. I will look it out for you if you are interested. If I can be of any more help, please let me know. Dianne

Janelle, Thanks for the reply. Just to let you know some details. I've spent the last 4 days at the GRO in Edinburgh, nice place, and the Glasgow Registrar's Office, also nice, but smaller. That's where I got all the BDM details on my William Brown, and his Family. The 1851 Census Details, I got them from the Glasgow & West Of Scotland Family History Association, of which I am a member. I have also visited my local LDS centre in Glasgow, also a very nice place. All details gathered re this family are from the Originals, transcribed by myself. The main confusion is that I just don't believe some of the details recorded on the Original documents. Obviously the informant is the one I don't believe. That is why I have been asking in my previous requests, if any fellow Listers have come across this William Brown, and/or his family in Kincardineshire, in their respective research. Any help in this area will be appreciated. Best regards, Alex Brown

Hi, Here's my 'Brick Wall'. My Brown family trail is now at Kincardine. I'm searching for Birth details of my Gr.Gr.Grandfather William Brown. I have quite a lot of details on him. He married Margaret Arbuckle, at Gorbals, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1819, so I guess he would have been born c. 1790-1800. William and Margaret had a large family. He married Grace McMurray, at Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1851. I have him and his family on the 1851 Census, living in Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland. According to the details given on the Census, he was 46, and his birth place was Perthshire, Dunnottar. This is obviously a mistake, and should have been Kincardineshire, Dunnottar, also the age given is suspect. I've found his Death details, and these seem to confuse things even more. He died in 1880, aged 69, at Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland. The informant, his son John Brown. Obviously the sums don't add up. The Parent details given add more confusion, Father, James Brown, Engine Keeper, Mother, not given. I wonder if William's son has made it up, or maybe he just didn't know. The Scottish naming pattern is evident all through my family, from myself back to William, where I think I've hit a brick wall. I had been expecting his father to be William also. Have any fellow Listers come across this William Brown..?? Do you know of any site that I can visit where I can get more details about families in Kincardineshire..?? Best regards, Alex Brown